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Subject: Did i do the right thing?
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SORRY link didnt work i edited this.

Right when the game started some guy on the other team quit out. I thought "oh good for us" but then about a few minutes into the game we were only winning by 1 or 2. Then suddenly everyone's bars went red, BUT a4h darkman was green. in a matter of seconds we were up by 10. I assumed he was standbying so i told him i will commit suicide if he keeps on standbying. He protests saying he doesnt have host (when i checked and he did) and said it must be lag. Well the connection was red but him so i started to kill myself. Right then another guy on their team quits. then another. Then when its 4v1, he stops standbying and i stopped suiciding. It was 1 minute left and something like a 3 point lead. Then when 30 seconds were left they started to make fun of my gamertag, saying rascist things. i was gona kill myself more but the game was over by then.

I feel pissed off because i could have stopped that guy getting his "un-legit" 26. (haha yeah who cheats for a 26?) and the other guys lost lvls. Was it right to stop suiciding?There was a legit person on our team too...

I just feel like there isnt any more "Good-game, nice kills" comments anymore. All i see is little kids, the wannabe pros, the t-baggers, and the cheaters.

If anyone wants to just play for fun add me --> Lil Smalleyes , id be happy to play.

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  • 08.03.2007 5:00 AM PDT
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THIS is the new link

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Yes you did cheaters should never win. Yes I have cheated (as in lagging them out of the game) to win before when I have had a Modder/Standbyer on the other team, but ever since the update I have been clean.

  • 08.03.2007 7:02 AM PDT
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Cleanest there ever was!

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  • 08.03.2007 7:04 AM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

Im sorry, but if I ever got matched up with a standbyer Id just get a free rank out of it. Theres no reason I should damage my Kill/death or win/loss ratio just because some randoms I dont even know were too dumb to get host boxes. Most of the time boxes dont work anyway but seriously, it makes no sence to derank because he is standbying. If you beat him, youll just lose a rank and he is gonna go right back in and get it the next game. Either you can benefit from it or some other random can. Better me than them....

  • 08.03.2007 7:08 AM PDT

Who gives a crap about ratios and ranks? If someone's cheating I'll screw with them if I can.

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not sure if thats standbying first of all.

The fact that one person is in green while everyone else is in red could just mean that he has a stronger signal. usually when someone standbys, all connections are yellow or red

  • 08.03.2007 7:17 AM PDT
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Posted by: KEVINBROCK
Im sorry, but if I ever got matched up with a standbyer Id just get a free rank out of it. Theres no reason I should damage my Kill/death or win/loss ratio just because some randoms I dont even know were too dumb to get host boxes. Most of the time boxes dont work anyway but seriously, it makes no sence to derank because he is standbying. If you beat him, youll just lose a rank and he is gonna go right back in and get it the next game. Either you can benefit from it or some other random can. Better me than them....


I have to agree, If you get matched with randoms and someone is standbying there is nothing you can do. Just take the win, like kevin said if you make him go down a game he is just gonna get it back the next game.

  • 08.03.2007 7:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: KEVINBROCK
Im sorry, but if I ever got matched up with a standbyer Id just get a free rank out of it. Theres no reason I should damage my Kill/death or win/loss ratio just because some randoms I dont even know were too dumb to get host boxes. Most of the time boxes dont work anyway but seriously, it makes no sence to derank because he is standbying. If you beat him, youll just lose a rank and he is gonna go right back in and get it the next game. Either you can benefit from it or some other random can. Better me than them....


I have to agree, If you get matched with randoms and someone is standbying there is nothing you can do. Just take the win, like kevin said if you make him go down a game he is just gonna get it back the next game.


....You do know that if he IS modding, and gets caught and banned, you can also be banned? I guess they assume you were cheating to and BAM! you're banned. I dunno if that's how it works, but it happens.

ANYWAY.

Yes you did the right thing, but really, just quit next time.

  • 08.03.2007 7:25 AM PDT
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You will only get banned if you play alot of games with someone who is cheating

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  • 08.03.2007 7:28 AM PDT
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Posted by: Porter_Daniels
Posted by: I wAnKa I
Posted by: KEVINBROCK
Im sorry, but if I ever got matched up with a standbyer Id just get a free rank out of it. Theres no reason I should damage my Kill/death or win/loss ratio just because some randoms I dont even know were too dumb to get host boxes. Most of the time boxes dont work anyway but seriously, it makes no sence to derank because he is standbying. If you beat him, youll just lose a rank and he is gonna go right back in and get it the next game. Either you can benefit from it or some other random can. Better me than them....


I have to agree, If you get matched with randoms and someone is standbying there is nothing you can do. Just take the win, like kevin said if you make him go down a game he is just gonna get it back the next game.


....You do know that if he IS modding, and gets caught and banned, you can also be banned? I guess they assume you were cheating to and BAM! you're banned. I dunno if that's how it works, but it happens.

ANYWAY.

Yes you did the right thing, but really, just quit next time.


You will get banned if you continually play with the modder. You will not get banned if a modder, standbyer, or whatever gets matched in a random matchmaking game with you for one game. Its not you're fault if you get matched with a cheater.

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  • 08.03.2007 7:32 AM PDT
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Posted by: I wAnKa I
Posted by: Porter_Daniels
Posted by: I wAnKa I
Posted by: KEVINBROCK
Im sorry, but if I ever got matched up with a standbyer Id just get a free rank out of it. Theres no reason I should damage my Kill/death or win/loss ratio just because some randoms I dont even know were too dumb to get host boxes. Most of the time boxes dont work anyway but seriously, it makes no sence to derank because he is standbying. If you beat him, youll just lose a rank and he is gonna go right back in and get it the next game. Either you can benefit from it or some other random can. Better me than them....


I have to agree, If you get matched with randoms and someone is standbying there is nothing you can do. Just take the win, like kevin said if you make him go down a game he is just gonna get it back the next game.


....You do know that if he IS modding, and gets caught and banned, you can also be banned? I guess they assume you were cheating to and BAM! you're banned. I dunno if that's how it works, but it happens.

ANYWAY.

Yes you did the right thing, but really, just quit next time.


You will get banned if you continually play with the modder. You will not get banned if a modder, standbyer, or whatever gets matched in a random matchmaking game with you for one game. Its not you're fault if you get matched with a cheater.


Eh, w/e. I just know that it has happened to some people I know.

  • 08.03.2007 7:41 AM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

Posted by: Porter_Daniels
Posted by: I wAnKa I
Posted by: Porter_Daniels
Posted by: I wAnKa I
Posted by: KEVINBROCK
Im sorry, but if I ever got matched up with a standbyer Id just get a free rank out of it. Theres no reason I should damage my Kill/death or win/loss ratio just because some randoms I dont even know were too dumb to get host boxes. Most of the time boxes dont work anyway but seriously, it makes no sence to derank because he is standbying. If you beat him, youll just lose a rank and he is gonna go right back in and get it the next game. Either you can benefit from it or some other random can. Better me than them....


I have to agree, If you get matched with randoms and someone is standbying there is nothing you can do. Just take the win, like kevin said if you make him go down a game he is just gonna get it back the next game.


....You do know that if he IS modding, and gets caught and banned, you can also be banned? I guess they assume you were cheating to and BAM! you're banned. I dunno if that's how it works, but it happens.

ANYWAY.

Yes you did the right thing, but really, just quit next time.


You will get banned if you continually play with the modder. You will not get banned if a modder, standbyer, or whatever gets matched in a random matchmaking game with you for one game. Its not you're fault if you get matched with a cheater.


Eh, w/e. I just know that it has happened to some people I know.


No it hasnt, they are just lying to cover up their modding parties.

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Posted by: KEVINBROCK
Posted by: Porter_Daniels
Posted by: I wAnKa I
Posted by: Porter_Daniels
Posted by: I wAnKa I
Posted by: KEVINBROCK
Im sorry, but if I ever got matched up with a standbyer Id just get a free rank out of it. Theres no reason I should damage my Kill/death or win/loss ratio just because some randoms I dont even know were too dumb to get host boxes. Most of the time boxes dont work anyway but seriously, it makes no sence to derank because he is standbying. If you beat him, youll just lose a rank and he is gonna go right back in and get it the next game. Either you can benefit from it or some other random can. Better me than them....


I have to agree, If you get matched with randoms and someone is standbying there is nothing you can do. Just take the win, like kevin said if you make him go down a game he is just gonna get it back the next game.


....You do know that if he IS modding, and gets caught and banned, you can also be banned? I guess they assume you were cheating to and BAM! you're banned. I dunno if that's how it works, but it happens.

ANYWAY.

Yes you did the right thing, but really, just quit next time.


You will get banned if you continually play with the modder. You will not get banned if a modder, standbyer, or whatever gets matched in a random matchmaking game with you for one game. Its not you're fault if you get matched with a cheater.


Eh, w/e. I just know that it has happened to some people I know.


No it hasnt, they are just lying to cover up their modding parties.


Exactly.

  • 08.03.2007 7:59 AM PDT

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Wow, are you that desperate to get your ranks up that you let the cheaters win? Wow, your as pathetic as them. If you let them cheat you are pretty much saying that cheating is ok. Who cares about rank? Just delevel so you can stay 100% legit. Screw the cheaters just kill yourself. If you don't, you are in support of cheating and should be banned along with the rest of the losers.

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Posted by: nickyfour92
Wow, are you that desperate to get your ranks up that you let the cheaters win? Wow, your as pathetic as them. If you let them cheat you are pretty much saying that cheating is ok. Who cares about rank? Just delevel so you can stay 100% legit. Screw the cheaters just kill yourself. If you don't, you are in support of cheating and should be banned along with the rest of the losers.


That pretty much says it all.

  • 08.03.2007 8:34 AM PDT

Freedom of Speech does not equal "Freedom from Consequences when one speaks".

It is a right, and all rights have responsibilities associated with them. Ignore the responsibility, and you tend to lose the right.
Recon Number 54

One thing I didn't see in this thread (maybe I missed it), is if you stay on a team where obvious cheating is going on, you risk getting cheating feedback yourself from the other team -- even if you're not. So, if you figure you'll stay on just for the ride, or to get a higher level out of it, it could be to your detriment in the long run. In situations like this, I just quit and find a better game. OK, I risk getting feedback from the team I quite out of, but chances are, if they're standbying or modding, they're going to win anyway and won't care what I do.

Just my two cents...

  • 08.03.2007 9:06 AM PDT

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One thing I didn't see in this thread (maybe I missed it), is if you stay on a team where obvious cheating is going on, you risk getting cheating feedback yourself from the other team -- even if you're not. So, if you figure you'll stay on just for the ride, or to get a higher level out of it, it could be to your detriment in the long run. In situations like this, I just quit and find a better game. OK, I risk getting feedback from the team I quite out of, but chances are, if they're standbying or modding, they're going to win anyway and won't care what I do.

Just my two cents...

If you quit out and they still win you will still go up a level so this is not the best solution for people who want a totally legit rank and don't want to ganin a rank from cheaters

  • 08.03.2007 11:55 AM PDT

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not sure if thats standbying first of all.

The fact that one person is in green while everyone else is in red could just mean that he has a stronger signal. usually when someone standbys, all connections are yellow or red

Exactly...

That's because the hosts connection bar is the average of everyone else's connection bar in the room.

The only reason for what happened could be that he lived extremely close to the host or they were sharing the same router... or something.

  • 08.03.2007 12:02 PM PDT

Good, friendly, violent fun.

Posted by: RhythmKiller
Who gives a crap about ratios and ranks? If someone's cheating I'll screw with them if I can.



Damn right.

  • 08.03.2007 12:03 PM PDT

Greatest of all time

Op: You should've suicided more and gave em a loss. Sure they get it back next game but you will have a clean conscience.

  • 08.03.2007 1:59 PM PDT