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Posted by: nickyfour92
This thread should have been locked after my first post. The mods are off duty eh? lol


I hope to no end that they don't lock the thread until children come piling in calling each other "n00bs" and other pathetic insults. I find it an interesting debate, seeing everyone's opinions and zeal behind their opinions.

  • 08.03.2007 12:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sheepdog108
Posted by: nickyfour92

Sure you wouldn't consider cheating you use it. Unfortunately, your opinion doesn't matter, it is a FACT that it is cheating. Sure it takes skill but its sleazy skill. It wasn't meant to be put into the game, it was an accident.

Double shotting is not an aspect of gameplay, its cheating. That would be like saying my mods own you so i'm better at that aspect of gameplay.

No scopes were intended to be in the game, if you can't do them then you need better aim.

I would play you 1v1 and let you use button combos and i won't use any, but unfortunately i don't have access to an xbox right now so to bad. Proving you wrong would be so fun.


It's not a fact, it's still debatable, hence this whole thread. As for stating that my opinion doesn't matter, go home child. Stop being demeaning toward every person you think you're better than.
"Double-shotting" is as much an aspect of gameplay as throwing a plasma grenade is. As I admitted, it was a mistake, but it's part of gameplay nonetheless. You think otherwise? How about the pros at MLG who constantly use "double-shot" and other combinations? Are THEY cheating? They're being paid thousands for cheating?

And how would playing me 1v1 prove me wrong? I never said I was so great at the game that I could beat anyone. Maybe you could beat me, maybe not. In fact, my 1v1 sucks. Use your head instead of your egotistical gaming dick to prove a point.
Actually, you know what? Your argument that you could beat me when I'm using combinations and you're not defeats the argument that they're an unfair advantage. Again, use your head.


No it is a fact, BUNGIE the people who made the game and the rules says its cheating. Therefore, no matter how many times you say it isn't cheating it is still cheating. MLG doesn't make the rules BUNGIE does.

I honestly don't give a crap about MLG pros, and yes then they are getting paid thousands of dollars to cheat. MLG is overrated, the fact you get paid thousands if dollars for playing video games is stupid, sure its easy money if ur good, but it is still stupid.

And read the post i quoted you on before, didn't you say "i'll quad shot the hell out of you and proudly" and you tell me to use my head and not my gaming dick.

My argument is fine, if i won it would prove that button glitches are a waste and not needed to win so you shouldn't have to use them.

  • 08.03.2007 12:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: OG Fastforward
I rarely button glitch. When I do, it is in custom games.

As for the argument about button glitching, you can stop arguing. Nothing anyone says will change anyone's mind (yes, I realize I'm going to argue my point., I mean starting new threads). I don't consider it cheating because it is build into the game (whether intentional or not) and everyone can do it.

For those who say you have to button glitch to stand a chance, button glitching is situational and those situations don't come up often. Thus, it isn't the reason you loose. Those who button glitch are, generally (with the exception of those who go out ONLY to button glitch), better than the average player. You loose because they are truly better than you.

Those against button glitching, generally, are just looking for an excuse for why they always loose.

Please not the "generally'" spread throughout my post. Also, I'm not claiming you can't be good without button glitching. I'm just defending the button glitchers. I'm also not saying or implying that I'm better than most. I'm not.


I don't blame button glitchers when i lose, and i don't always lose, i win the majority of my games. Most of my friends button glitch and i tell them to stop it because its cheating. And when i play MLG FFA and they all button glitch, i don't and i come in the top 3 usually.

  • 08.03.2007 12:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: nickyfour92
No it is a fact, BUNGIE the people who made the game and the rules says its cheating. Therefore, no matter how many times you say it isn't cheating it is still cheating. MLG doesn't make the rules BUNGIE does.
They say it is cheating, in MM and MM only. Anywhere else, it is completely open for debate.

  • 08.03.2007 1:00 PM PDT

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I could care less if people button glitch, even in matchmaking. What I am curious about is how someone can use a button glitch, and then complain about people using a macro controller. Whether or not it is cheating doesn't matter, when you play people that don't use it, it unbalances the game. Someone please explain the post from the guy who thinks the game is balanced when he can take out a triple team of br's using a button glitch. In a balanced game, he should die because the other team stuck together while he headed out on his own. Teamwork and communication takes skill, button glitches takes practice, not skill.

  • 08.03.2007 1:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: nickyfour92
Yea, and it is still cheating! If someone standbys in custom games isn't it still cheating? Button combos are the same. They create an unfair balance in the game.

The argument that anyone can do them so do them fails. 1. Not everyone can do them 2. (me) can do them but choose not to because it is cheating.
You are a noob. Not everyone can throw 'nades like me, does that make it cheating? Button combos don't make the player that much better, they are simply part of the game. Just because you can't press three buttons, that doesn't make it cheating. 99.9% of good players at Halo button combo, it is more...convienent, and since everyone good does it, you have to do it to be competitive.

Don't say it is in the same category as "standbying", they are by no means even close.

To prove my point I will beat anyone 1v1 without button combos, then beat them again with button combos. And we will see this difference in this "cheating". That is a callout to everyone who thinks it is cheating in this thread. Just send me a clan invite saying 1v1 because my FR is full.

  • 08.03.2007 1:02 PM PDT
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Its funny how you argue about a pointless argument. Neither side will give in and every thread ends up getting locked. Give it a break.


It's not pointless. And it's not so much an argument as it is a debate. More-so than stating facts in debates such as this, I point out the mistakes and flaws in the arguer's points to strengthen my own points.

I don't expect to win this debate; I expect people to respect my opinion, argue theirs, and hold their own ground without resorting to petty insults.

That is a good point. I see you debate well but both sides have opinions that cannot be manipulated to believe their oppononts opinion. im not taking sides and in doing so im allowed to point out flaws in both people that everyone can agree on whether they want to or not.
Pro glitching: It is cheating but chances are if your good at it you are good at playing the game normally. it gives you an advantage.
Against glitching: If its an aspect of the game you have a disadvantage in it is entirely your fault for not taking hold of that advantage. Not using glitches makes you a better player in glitching situations.

  • 08.03.2007 1:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: nickyfour92
Sure you wouldn't consider cheating you use it.


You seem to have misread or skipped over what I said about superbouncing. I clarified how much I hate it, but I do not consider it cheating. I'm impartial based on my own abilities and uses of said glitches.

  • 08.03.2007 1:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: mongoliancluster
I could care less if people button glitch, even in matchmaking. What I am curious about is how someone can use a button glitch, and then complain about people using a macro controller. Whether or not it is cheating doesn't matter, when you play people that don't use it, it unbalances the game. Someone please explain the post from the guy who thinks the game is balanced when he can take out a triple team of br's using a button glitch. In a balanced game, he should die because the other team stuck together while he headed out on his own. Teamwork and communication takes skill, button glitches takes practice, not skill.
WRONG...teamwork and communication take practice, button combos take skill.

Also using a macro controller is using modified content which violates the Terms of Use for Xbox Live. Hence it is cheating.

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Posted by: Wrecktified
That is a good point. I see you debate well but both sides have opinions that cannot be manipulated to believe their oppononts opinion. im not taking sides and in doing so im allowed to point out flaws in both people that everyone can agree on whether they want to or not.
Pro glitching: It is cheating but chances are if your good at it you are good at playing the game normally. it gives you an advantage.
Against glitching: If its an aspect of the game you have a disadvantage in it is entirely your fault for not taking hold of that advantage. Not using glitches makes you a better player in glitching situations.
And you are supposed to be neutral right. My ass.

  • 08.03.2007 1:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: nickyfour92
And read the post i quoted you on before, didn't you say "i'll quad shot the hell out of you and proudly" and you tell me to use my head and not my gaming dick.


My mistake in not clarifying that I was being sarcastic (perhaps what was in parentheses subtracted from the quality of the sarcasm). However, you seem to not understand that I didn't call anyone out or compare myself to a specific gamer.

Translating our conversation into the typical middle-school conversation would sound a bit like this:

Sheepdog108: I'm tough, lol!!!
nickyfour92: I can beat you up! Grr!!!

That's why I commented on your egotistical gaming dick.

  • 08.03.2007 1:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: Wrecktified
That is a good point. I see you debate well but both sides have opinions that cannot be manipulated to believe their oppononts opinion. im not taking sides and in doing so im allowed to point out flaws in both people that everyone can agree on whether they want to or not.
Pro glitching: It is cheating but chances are if your good at it you are good at playing the game normally. it gives you an advantage.
Against glitching: If its an aspect of the game you have a disadvantage in it is entirely your fault for not taking hold of that advantage. Not using glitches makes you a better player in glitching situations.
And you are supposed to be neutral right. My ass.

Yes i am. If you have a probelm with it then go ahead.

  • 08.03.2007 1:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
To prove my point I will beat anyone 1v1 without button combos, then beat them again with button combos. And we will see this difference in this "cheating". That is a callout to everyone who thinks it is cheating in this thread. Just send me a clan invite saying 1v1 because my FR is full.


I'd like to play you 1v1, but not to prove anything (since I combo glitch anyway). Just for fun. Though, I'll admit, my 1v1 is my weakest game. Send me a friend request; I can't be on for another couple of days since I'm doing construction, and once I go home I won't have access to a computer to look up your name.

  • 08.03.2007 1:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
Posted by: nickyfour92
Yea, and it is still cheating! If someone standbys in custom games isn't it still cheating? Button combos are the same. They create an unfair balance in the game.

The argument that anyone can do them so do them fails. 1. Not everyone can do them 2. (me) can do them but choose not to because it is cheating.
You are a noob. Not everyone can throw 'nades like me, does that make it cheating? Button combos don't make the player that much better, they are simply part of the game. Just because you can't press three buttons, that doesn't make it cheating. 99.9% of good players at Halo button combo, it is more...convienent, and since everyone good does it, you have to do it to be competitive.

Don't say it is in the same category as "standbying", they are by no means even close.

To prove my point I will beat anyone 1v1 without button combos, then beat them again with button combos. And we will see this difference in this "cheating". That is a callout to everyone who thinks it is cheating in this thread. Just send me a clan invite saying 1v1 because my FR is full.


Calling me bad at halo because i don't like button combos? Nades were actually ment to be in the game so don't put it in the same category as button combos they are by no means even close. It is not a part of the game, it is cheating, it was not meant to be in the game and it is manipulating an animation glitch and it is and always will be cheating. If 99.9% of good players use them then 99.9% of good players are cheating.

Also, don't contradict yourself, first you say you need them to be competitive and then you say you will beat anyone 1v1 without them to prove your point. Your point apparently was that you need them to be competitive........

  • 08.03.2007 1:14 PM PDT

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As your side says, "anyone can use button glitches" so, how is that skill? Does working at Mcdonalds take skill? or a repetetive factory job take skill? No, you can train a chimp for that. I would consider a skilled player to be the one who is better than the rest using exactly the same tools and rules. Does anyone here actually believe that other players respect them at all when they button glitch?

  • 08.03.2007 1:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sheepdog108
Posted by: nickyfour92
And read the post i quoted you on before, didn't you say "i'll quad shot the hell out of you and proudly" and you tell me to use my head and not my gaming dick.


My mistake in not clarifying that I was being sarcastic (perhaps what was in parentheses subtracted from the quality of the sarcasm). However, you seem to not understand that I didn't call anyone out or compare myself to a specific gamer.

Translating our conversation into the typical middle-school conversation would sound a bit like this:

Sheepdog108: I'm tough, lol!!!
nickyfour92: I can beat you up! Grr!!!

That's why I commented on your egotistical gaming dick.


Well, glad we are on the same page now.

I lol'd at that middle school converation.

  • 08.03.2007 1:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: nickyfour92
Calling me bad at halo because i don't like button combos? Nades were actually ment to be in the game so don't put it in the same category as button combos they are by no means even close. It is not a part of the game, it is cheating, it was not meant to be in the game and it is manipulating an animation glitch and it is and always will be cheating. If 99.9% of good players use them then 99.9% of good players are cheating.

Also, don't contradict yourself, first you say you need them to be competitive and then you say you will beat anyone 1v1 without them to prove your point. Your point apparently was that you need them to be competitive........
Contradicting myself...maybe you don't understand. Everyone good uses them so you have to use them in ****certain situations**** to be competitive. Not all the time. And usually if you are good at using them you are a solid player so you don't have to use them all the time. And what I mean by this is that in certain situations a double shot can help you survive someone. If you are not bad then play me 1v1. It is as simple as that, then we can post the links to the game in this thread to see the difference between using them and not.

What I meant by 'nades is this: You said that button combos give an unfair advantage because some people cannot do them, well some people can't snipe as well as me or throw frags as skillful as me. With your logic that is cheating too. So don't even use that point.

Posted by: mongoliancluster
As your side says, "anyone can use button glitches" so, how is that skill? Does working at Mcdonalds take skill? or a repetetive factory job take skill? No, you can train a chimp for that. I would consider a skilled player to be the one who is better than the rest using exactly the same tools and rules. Does anyone here actually believe that other players respect them at all when they button glitch?
Actually the best players in the game use them (MLG). So yeah, button combos are respected by everyone who likes MLG.

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  • 08.03.2007 1:27 PM PDT
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Double post=bad, see ^^^^^

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  • 08.03.2007 1:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
Posted by: nickyfour92
Calling me bad at halo because i don't like button combos? Nades were actually ment to be in the game so don't put it in the same category as button combos they are by no means even close. It is not a part of the game, it is cheating, it was not meant to be in the game and it is manipulating an animation glitch and it is and always will be cheating. If 99.9% of good players use them then 99.9% of good players are cheating.

Also, don't contradict yourself, first you say you need them to be competitive and then you say you will beat anyone 1v1 without them to prove your point. Your point apparently was that you need them to be competitive........
Contradicting myself...maybe you don't understand. Everyone good uses them so you have to use them in ****certain situations**** to be competitive. Not all the time. And usually if you are good at using them you are a solid player so you don't have to use them all the time. And what I mean by this is that in certain situations a double shot can help you survive someone. If you are not bad then play me 1v1. It is as simple as that, then we can post the links to the game in this thread to see the difference between using them and not.

What I meant by 'nades is this: You said that button combos give an unfair advantage because some people cannot do them, well some people can't snipe as well as me or throw frags as skillful as me. With your logic that is cheating too. So don't even use that point.


Jeez, whats with people wanting to play 1v1 all the time, send a FR to Dakilla Nick, i'll get back to you on that next time i am online.

Button glitches aren't mean to be in the game. BOUNCING FRAGS OFF WALLS AND SNIPING WERE. So don't compare something that is cheating to something that is actually meant to be in the game.

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Nicky you don't get it, I am not comparing the two things, but I am comparing your logic. If nades and double shotting are different, then why can you use the same logic to say one is cheating and the other isn't.

And the 1v1 has to do with your other point. You say it is cheating, well how is it cheating if it doesn't give a unfair advantage. If I beat you 1v1 15-4 with button glitches and 15-3 without them, you can't say it gives an unfair advantage.

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  • 08.03.2007 1:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
Nicky you don't get it, I am not comparing the two things, but I am comparing your logic. If nades and double shotting are different, then why can you use the same logic to say one is cheating and the other isn't.

And the 1v1 has to do with your other point. You say it is cheating, well how is it cheating if it doesn't give a unfair advantage. If I beat you 1v1 15-4 with button glitches and 15-3 without them, you can't say it gives an unfair advantage.


Well the way you compared my logic doesn't work. One thing was meant to be in the game, one wasn't. Nades actually take real skill to throw well while button glitches require cheap skill.

  • 08.03.2007 1:41 PM PDT
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I do not button combo .

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Posted by: nickyfour92
Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
Nicky you don't get it, I am not comparing the two things, but I am comparing your logic. If nades and double shotting are different, then why can you use the same logic to say one is cheating and the other isn't.

And the 1v1 has to do with your other point. You say it is cheating, well how is it cheating if it doesn't give a unfair advantage. If I beat you 1v1 15-4 with button glitches and 15-3 without them, you can't say it gives an unfair advantage.


Well the way you compared my logic doesn't work. One thing was meant to be in the game, one wasn't. Nades actually take real skill to throw well while button glitches require cheap skill.
Both are in the game, so your point does NOT work. Both take skill, btw what about the 1v1.

  • 08.03.2007 1:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
Posted by: nickyfour92
Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
Nicky you don't get it, I am not comparing the two things, but I am comparing your logic. If nades and double shotting are different, then why can you use the same logic to say one is cheating and the other isn't.

And the 1v1 has to do with your other point. You say it is cheating, well how is it cheating if it doesn't give a unfair advantage. If I beat you 1v1 15-4 with button glitches and 15-3 without them, you can't say it gives an unfair advantage.


Well the way you compared my logic doesn't work. One thing was meant to be in the game, one wasn't. Nades actually take real skill to throw well while button glitches require cheap skill.
Both are in the game, so your point does NOT work. Both take skill, btw what about the 1v1.


*sigh* i'll play you 1v1.

nice convo btw

  • 08.03.2007 1:46 PM PDT
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convo? tag is L ToXiC ChAoS L and those are lower case. Send me a clan inv my FR is full.

  • 08.03.2007 1:49 PM PDT