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Posted by: CVScorp
Well, at least Sypher made it easy by admitting himself that he doesn't know how to play CTF nor what tactics are. LOL. This so called ES clan wouldn't last 5 minutes in a CTF game with us, or any other serious CTF clan that knows and practices tactics.


Thanks for your support CV, and for your clan's support. And you're right. They wouldn't.

The people who were guarding the flag with me (that's right, I had in game support) are friends of mine on Live. Some of them were also booted from the server... that is, those that didn't just quit before hand.

  • 08.08.2007 10:52 AM PDT

CVScorp,
At last, a clan with the balls to stand up to us. I sense a hent of challange in your post. You shall be rewarded with a 4 on 4 CTF clan match. Your favoret game in fact. We are currently recruting so alow us a breif pause. MB till this weekend to sort out who will play. Thanks to Tyrant we currently have many new applicants and we must test them, but our clan leader is currently AFK till the weekend.

Please accept my friend invite so we may discuss the details. Just so you know, like all matches on the ES Clan Server, the full game stats will be recorded. And these will be posted to. Win or lose for ES. I always give credit where credit is do.

This is my last post, no realy. I think?

Peace,

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  • 08.08.2007 11:49 AM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

Then technically it isn't your last post if you're going to post the results.

  • 08.08.2007 11:53 AM PDT

Posted by: Sypher117
CVScorp,
At last, a clan with the balls to stand up to us. I sense a hent of challange in your post. You shall be rewarded with a 4 on 4 CTF clan match. Your favoret game in fact. We are currently recruting so alow us a breif pause. MB till this weekend to sort out who will play. Thanks to Tyrant we currently have many new applicants and we must test them, but our clan leader is currently AFK till the weekend.

Please accept my friend invite so we may discuss the details. Just so you know, like all matches on the ES Clan Server, the full game stats will be recorded. And these will be posted to. Win or lose for ES. I always give credit where credit is do.

This is my last post, no realy. I think?

Peace,

-=(ES)ﮒýקhεr™=-


I can't wait to see that, It might prove to be quite entertaining. I'm going to stay on the sidelines during that round.

On another note, I would like to apologize to DODO for the comments I made in my previous post. In said post I called him a Cheater and a D-Bag, and I apologize for my comments. DODO is just a hell of a lot better at Halo than me, and for a moment I Lashed out. Once more, I apologize.

[Edited on 08.08.2007 12:00 PM PDT]

  • 08.08.2007 11:59 AM PDT
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Currently as a Clan we only play Halo 1 as we have yet to start up a H2 server. You can issue a challenge to us at cvclan[remove]@hotmail.com (remove the [remove] from the address) We will play any map, big or small, and we play it twice, once as red and once as blue so that any map that has a color advantage won't skew the results. We will play one of your server and one on ours so that no "monkey business" can be accused by either side.

Posted by: Sypher117
CVScorp,
At last, a clan with the balls to stand up to us. I sense a hent of challange in your post. You shall be rewarded with a 4 on 4 CTF clan match. Your favoret game in fact. We are currently recruting so alow us a breif pause. MB till this weekend to sort out who will play. Thanks to Tyrant we currently have many new applicants and we must test them, but our clan leader is currently AFK till the weekend.

Please accept my friend invite so we may discuss the details. Just so you know, like all matches on the ES Clan Server, the full game stats will be recorded. And these will be posted to. Win or lose for ES. I always give credit where credit is do.

This is my last post, no realy. I think?

Peace,

-=(ES)ﮒýקhεr™=-

  • 08.08.2007 1:54 PM PDT
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Of course flag guarding is legal, its just courtesy not to do so. It pretty much ruins the game for the other team, so flag guarding just makes you seem like a -blam!- .

P.S. does anyone else think this thread is really funny? "I challenge you to a duel to settle our halo-related arguments"

[Edited on 08.08.2007 2:18 PM PDT]

  • 08.08.2007 2:16 PM PDT

CVScorp,
Well, our clan is trying to move away from Halo CE. Which is what we played before H2V. If you have a Halo CE server then i guess i can start up ours again. Just for this match. But, it's interesting to me that now you say that your clan doesn't play H2V when before you were saying you can own us in it.
Oh well, we can play HCE and you wont have to wait for it. We have plenty of members ready and willing to play on CE. I will send you an invite right now.

Oh yea, thanks for the support POOR DUMB KID, but I do disagree on one thing. Flag camping is not cheating it is simply a n00by way to play.


Cya soon,

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  • 08.08.2007 4:06 PM PDT

Everyone,
And dont even say anything about that not being the last post. I know it wasn't the last post. I give up on the fricking last post.
I wan't a clan war d*mit!


Out,

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  • 08.08.2007 4:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sypher117
Flag camping is not cheating it is simply a n00by way to play.


It depends on how he's guarding the flag, if he's just standing there with a rocket launcher pointed at the door then yes, it is nooby. But if he's walking around the base checking for sneaky people or keeping a lookout then it's a perfectly legitimate tactic.

  • 08.08.2007 4:30 PM PDT

If they got owned that badly by a brute shot on coag then no wonder they resorted to cheating.

  • 08.08.2007 4:50 PM PDT
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Oh yay, children clans running the Maw into another 100 post thread about...nothing.

  • 08.08.2007 5:02 PM PDT
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Fist, no cheating happened here. Neither party was cheating.
However, were both sides innocent? What is considered a legitimate tactic?
As Obi said, if he was camping that's being a n00b in any gametype. It's frustrating trying to get the flag when there's a camper... especially since they respawn quickly enough to pose a thread even after they die. But consider that he was camping with a brute shot... how can three people not take down one camper that has a brute shot? Ever heard of grenades? Dual-Wielding? A shotgun? It's difficult to attack a camper, but with three people-even with just SMG's and no grenades, should be able to play smart to be able to pick up the flag at least once.
The server operator, we assume, kicked the camper before every flag charge. It's part of the rewards of being a server operator- but is it moral? No. It disgraces a code of honor you assume when you enter a server, that the owner will be impartial to their own wants and play for the good of the game. Of course, we can only assume he did this. If it's in fact true, I'd suggest avoiding the server. IN any case, it's not cheating and this thread should be titled "Bad Sportsmanship in Halo 2"

  • 08.08.2007 5:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ryanman7
Fist, no cheating happened here. Neither party was cheating.
However, were both sides innocent? What is considered a legitimate tactic?
As Obi said, if he was camping that's being a n00b in any gametype. It's frustrating trying to get the flag when there's a camper... especially since they respawn quickly enough to pose a thread even after they die. But consider that he was camping with a brute shot... how can three people not take down one camper that has a brute shot? Ever heard of grenades? Dual-Wielding? A shotgun? It's difficult to attack a camper, but with three people-even with just SMG's and no grenades, should be able to play smart to be able to pick up the flag at least once.
The server operator, we assume, kicked the camper before every flag charge. It's part of the rewards of being a server operator- but is it moral? No. It disgraces a code of honor you assume when you enter a server, that the owner will be impartial to their own wants and play for the good of the game. Of course, we can only assume he did this. If it's in fact true, I'd suggest avoiding the server. IN any case, it's not cheating and this thread should be titled "Bad Sportsmanship in Halo 2"


Well said, Ryan. I guess we'll all just have to agree to disagree.

  • 08.08.2007 7:22 PM PDT

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time. I know who you are. You are destiny.

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Posted by: dodo
This game is such a piece of garbage! Why are people allowed to delay start of game, and why are people allowed to change teams in the first place?
That's Halo games on the PC for you.

Posted by: dodo
Halo is a noobfest, where people can get in vehicles and run eachother over all game, not a tactical shooter.
That's just some vague, boring gametype that serious players never consider wasting their time on, you need to play with MLG settings to get a taste of it.

Posted by: Scarlet Crusade
I'm sorry that you don't see Halo for the game it truly is. Halo is not like most shooters, it's slower and takes more strategy than just running and gunning.
So Counter-Strike doesn't? Because in CS, team work and tactics are crucial, but if you can't land a headshot at the same time, you're screwed.

Yeah, tactics are important, but if anything, Halo is running and gunning. More so than Counter-Strike because Halo doesn't force you to compensate for physics, such as recoil.
You praise CS over Halo?!...

...I have created a monster!!!

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Posted by: Beowul7
...perhaps the game's netcode being as bad as that of the first game, but from all I have heard, most people cry and hit it about not working on their PC's, not about the Internet.


The netcode is NOT as bad as Halo 1 PC... not even comparable.
Thanks for letting me know. I sure thought about it that way as well,but of course, as an idea. My H2V isn't working online, so I might as well never know myself but by other people. Thanks Scarlet.

[Edited on 08.08.2007 8:23 PM PDT]

  • 08.08.2007 8:00 PM PDT
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Game play in the ES server may also be affected by their network connection. When I looked at their server in the lobby night before last all of the other dedicated servers had a good ping response, and the ES server showed to have a really bad response time.

[Edited on 08.09.2007 5:43 AM PDT]

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Posted by: Beowul7
You praise CS over Halo?!...

...I have created a monster!!!
The monster was inside me all along; you just helped release it. :P

  • 08.09.2007 7:10 AM PDT

Ryanman7,
Well put, your absolutly right on every level, while I still hold my position that I did not kick Tyrant for any tactical advantage. I must concede that I have absolutly no proof of this. Therefore, I'm done with trying to convince anyone otherwise. You'll just have to take my word for it.

TUI_Obi_Wan,
To answer your question, yes, he was just standing there with the Rocket Launcher or Brute Shot pointed at the door.

CVScorp,
Your right about our network problems. The current ISP is, well, less than satisfactory. Thats puting it mild. While at some times people are geting 60ms pings from the server, the service is so crazy that an hour later people will be up to 200ms. I plan to drop our current ISP for COX as soon as they hit this area. Which should be in the next 6 to 8 weeks. To anyone experencing intermittent or even bad ping to the server. I do apologize. The problem will be corrected as soon as posible. Scorp, by the way why dont you have a Live account under this name? I've been trying to contact you for our match.

And Finaly

Tyrant,
This has gone on long enough, I'm tired of this debate. I feal this has been one big misunderstanding. How about we put and end to this fude and you come to the server to play a few stress relieving CTF matches with me. You can play any way you want.I don't care. What do you say? Burry the hatchet?


Peace,

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  • 08.09.2007 1:42 PM PDT

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time. I know who you are. You are destiny.

Posted by: Sypher117
Ryanman7,
Well put, your absolutly right on every level, while I still hold my position that I did not kick Tyrant for any tactical advantage. I must concede that I have absolutly no proof of this. Therefore, I'm done with trying to convince anyone otherwise. You'll just have to take my word for it.

TUI_Obi_Wan,
To answer your question, yes, he was just standing there with the Rocket Launcher or Brute Shot pointed at the door.

CVScorp,
Your right about our network problems. The current ISP is, well, less than satisfactory. Thats puting it mild. While at some times people are geting 60ms pings from the server, the service is so crazy that an hour later people will be up to 200ms. I plan to drop our current ISP for COX as soon as they hit this area. Which should be in the next 6 to 8 weeks. To anyone experencing intermittent or even bad ping to the server. I do apologize. The problem will be corrected as soon as posible. Scorp, by the way why dont you have a Live account under this name? I've been trying to contact you for our match.

And Finaly

Tyrant,
This has gone on long enough, I'm tired of this debate. I feal this has been one big misunderstanding. How about we put and end to this fude and you come to the server to play a few stress relieving CTF matches with me. You can play any way you want.I don't care. What do you say? Burry the hatchet?


Peace,

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I'm sorry, we interrupt this thread for NEDM.

  • 08.09.2007 6:13 PM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant

Posted by: Sypher117
Ryanman7,
Well put, your absolutly right on every level, while I still hold my position that I did not kick Tyrant for any tactical advantage. I must concede that I have absolutly no proof of this. Therefore, I'm done with trying to convince anyone otherwise. You'll just have to take my word for it.

TUI_Obi_Wan,
To answer your question, yes, he was just standing there with the Rocket Launcher or Brute Shot pointed at the door.

CVScorp,
Your right about our network problems. The current ISP is, well, less than satisfactory. Thats puting it mild. While at some times people are geting 60ms pings from the server, the service is so crazy that an hour later people will be up to 200ms. I plan to drop our current ISP for COX as soon as they hit this area. Which should be in the next 6 to 8 weeks. To anyone experencing intermittent or even bad ping to the server. I do apologize. The problem will be corrected as soon as posible. Scorp, by the way why dont you have a Live account under this name? I've been trying to contact you for our match.

And Finaly

Tyrant,
This has gone on long enough, I'm tired of this debate. I feal this has been one big misunderstanding. How about we put and end to this fude and you come to the server to play a few stress relieving CTF matches with me. You can play any way you want.I don't care. What do you say? Burry the hatchet?


Peace,

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Sounds good to me.

  • 08.09.2007 8:35 PM PDT
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THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

Please, in the future, make all players aware of the rules of your server, should you be running one, that is all.

  • 08.09.2007 9:21 PM PDT

ping the server til it crashes ^_^

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Posted by: Sypher117
CVScorp,
Your right about our network problems. The current ISP is, well, less than satisfactory. Thats puting it mild. While at some times people are geting 60ms pings from the server, the service is so crazy that an hour later people will be up to 200ms. I plan to drop our current ISP for COX as soon as they hit this area. Which should be in the next 6 to 8 weeks. To anyone experencing intermittent or even bad ping to the server. I do apologize. The problem will be corrected as soon as posible. Scorp, by the way why dont you have a Live account under this name? I've been trying to contact you for our match.
-=(ES)ﮒýקhεr™=-


That's because I signed up here before Halo 2 Vista came out and I created a Live ID. My Halo PC id in the server is [CV]Scorp so that is why I used it here. However, my Live ID, and ID in Halo 2 Vista is CV Scorpion. However, contacting me directly about a match won't do any good. Only the clan leaders can set up matches and since I resigned as a leader about 6 months ago so that I could just be a normal officer and not have to worry about all the other crap lol. That's why I gave you the cvclan@hotmail.com address sop you can contact the leaders to set up a match.

  • 08.10.2007 6:18 AM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

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Posted by: ROBO LEADER
THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

Please, in the future, make all players aware of the rules of your server, should you be running one, that is all.


Maybe we'll see a Red vs. Blue video on this ;-)

But how true it is. It's understandable that servers and clans alike have their own ways and rules pertaining to certain game types. You see, I've been a flag guard all the way back to the days of LAN parties, even before the days of Halo PC. And even last night when I was in your server, Blue Team (opposite team) had not one, but two flag guards. However, if the rules of your server say nay to flag guards, then when I play in that server, I'll find a new CTF niche.

As for my weapon choice? Well, yes the Brute Shot does fire explosives, but at close range, it's about as effective as the shotgun, which seems to be the standard CTF flag guarding weapon. I use the Brute Shot mainly because it has the second most powerful melee in the game (the almighty sword being the first). As far as firepower, it seems very similar to the old Fuel Rod Gun in Halo PC. It holds roughly the same amount of ammo with a projectile that arcs. I'm still wishing, though, that they had included the actual Fuel Rod Gun in multiplayer, but one can only hope that it is in Halo 3 :-)

All and all, when I'm in your server, I'll play by your rules. After all, it's hard to resist a hardcore game of CTF on my favorite map :-)

Quick question for you, though. I noticed that in addition to the starting weapon being the SMG, the flag runner doesn't have the ability to actually drive a vehicle (only allowed in the passenger seat of the hog). Is it possible to either change the starting weapon, or give a randomly generated secondary weapon, or allow the flag runner to commandeer vehicles? I'm thinking that's why one game tends to take hours to finish. Not that your clan is to blame, but most people who play don't typically use teamwork. Just a thought. Thanks!

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  • 08.10.2007 6:42 AM PDT

Tyrant,
Well, glad to see this behind us. I'm tired of having to post every day just to defend my clan. Anyways, on to another subject. I two, enjoy being able to drive to the base, kill a few unsuspecting flag gards, and run back to my vehicle to get away. You know, the old school Halo PC & CE way. But, the locked variant (CTF Classic) is very specific. You can't drive or operate anything while holding the flag. I guess Bungie put that in so you would be forced to rely on teamwork. Which I also like. However, as a show good faith. I'm puting up a custom variant now known as "CTF Flag Driver". Yes, It is what it sounds like. You can drive or operate guns while holding the flag. I'll see how people like it. It may become a permanent variant on the server. I'm rotating it with the "CTF Classic" variant. Feal free to come and play. I look foward to a good match with you. Possible teammates?

Peace,

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  • 08.10.2007 10:32 AM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant

Posted by: Sypher117
Tyrant,
Well, glad to see this behind us. I'm tired of having to post every day just to defend my clan. Anyways, on to another subject. I two, enjoy being able to drive to the base, kill a few unsuspecting flag gards, and run back to my vehicle to get away. You know, the old school Halo PC & CE way. But, the locked variant (CTF Classic) is very specific. You can't drive or operate anything while holding the flag. I guess Bungie put that in so you would be forced to rely on teamwork. Which I also like. However, as a show good faith. I'm puting up a custom variant now known as "CTF Flag Driver". Yes, It is what it sounds like. You can drive or operate guns while holding the flag. I'll see how people like it. It may become a permanent variant on the server. I'm rotating it with the "CTF Classic" variant. Feal free to come and play. I look foward to a good match with you. Possible teammates?

Peace,

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Sounds like a plan. And I'll be backing you up with my Brute Shot ;-)

Last night I managed to squeeze in a little time on the server and took the battle to the Blues, Brute Shot in hand. I waited til a good number of teamates were over there, including two hogs. I managed to jump in the base from the top, take out bash/blow up the two flag guards, and another Blue who entered the base right before I grabbed the flag. After grabbing it, I jumped down to the basement, and there were two more Blues. Surprisingly, my sporatic jumping and grenade lobbing managed to down them both. I was in the clear and called for pick up. No one came. Bummer. After about a minute, I started heading for the portal, made it through... and was sniped.

So thanks for the new game type!

[Edited on 08.10.2007 10:48 AM PDT]

  • 08.10.2007 10:39 AM PDT