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Subject: Why do so few people choose to be a Covenant Elite?
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Posted by: TokenBlackGuy4U
um, no i'm still waiting on the invite...

BTW what does K/D or rank or anything have to do with weather i'm any good or not(or if anybodys for that reason) for all u know i could have serveral accounts(which i do, for ur information mister nosey)... this account(the one a have linked) is my play for fun/friends account. notice how there are more customs n more swat n other unranked matchs than anything else? my friends use this account when they come around also so i dont have a guest n they can play ranked....

once again yet another person has posted sumfin without even thinking. honestly there could b tons of reasons to y its so low but no u have to think of the first thing that pops into ur head.. y do ppl do that?


Your ratio indicates that you get one kill for every two deaths. In other words, your average game includes you going double negative. There is absolutely no excuse for that, and post your other GT's so I can make a comparison.

  • 08.06.2007 11:21 AM PDT

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Mine's an Elite.

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Most people assume that their hitboxes are larger than the Spartan character's. I don't know whether this is true or not, however their character models ARE larger, making them harder to hide in corners. They are also awkward to play with, or against, and make a lot more noise than the Spartan character. Examples of the noises:

When you kill a Spartan with a sticky: UGH!

When you kill an Elite with a sticky: RAWRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRURURARUARUAR!!!!!!!!!!!11

I believe that their shields have much brighter particle effects than the Spartan character.

Simply put, hitbox larger or not, they're still easier to shoot, stick, melee, and ultimately find.


However, I've discovered something absolutely hilarious with the Elite model. Grab a plasma pistol, look straight up, and run in circles constantly meleeing and canceling. When seen from third person, you'll fall off your chair laughing, and then you'll seek me out to thank me for humouring you for the month.

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Posted by: RaW I RaptoR
Your ratio indicates that you get one kill for every two deaths. In other words, your average game includes you going double negative. There is absolutely no excuse for that, and post your other GT's so I can make a comparison.


I don't mean to come to his rescue, as his typing makes my eyes bleed, but perhaps you should pay attention to your own ratios.

Your 332 games played in Hardcore, yet you're only a level 23? Only 166 games won? I have 62 games played and 52 wins, one tie. I'm a 27.

That doesn't make me better than you.

You have a K/D ratio of 1.8 something something something... Mine is a 1.52 average between my five accounts that I've had. Sheepdog108, Sheepdog128, KSI Sheepdog, KSI 108, and KSI OneOhEight.

That doesn't make you better than me.

Ratios don't mean crap in skill. I'm an assist person, apparently more-so than you, since I have a higher kill/assist ratio than you (fact, not hypocrisy). Again, this doesn't make me better than you.

If you want to know how good someone is, play them 1v1 to 25 on a neutral host, instead of comparing ratios. If that weren't the best way, then my K/D ratio being barely under yours, and my Win/Loss ratio being WAY ABOVE yours, I'd come out on top. ;)


As for TokenBlackGuy, you've gotten yourself in a corner. Either prove yourself by providing your other accounts, or this frivolous argument should cease here and now.

  • 08.06.2007 1:24 PM PDT
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personally i just don't like the covenant but ya the head thing is just a moving target for snipers

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Posted by: Mushroom
ALEX!!! what the heck is goin on here? you need to settle this on live lol!!! i cant exactly go on atm, but i have a feeling that you would pwn him so bad!!! everyone knows aussies are some of the best players on xbox live!! nail him for me aye mate!


I agree about that Aussie quote.

Own all americans on xbox live!!!!! (that includes you too, u poms)

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Posted by: Sheepdog108
Posted by: RaW I RaptoR
Your ratio indicates that you get one kill for every two deaths. In other words, your average game includes you going double negative. There is absolutely no excuse for that, and post your other GT's so I can make a comparison.


I don't mean to come to his rescue, as his typing makes my eyes bleed, but perhaps you should pay attention to your own ratios.

Your 332 games played in Hardcore, yet you're only a level 23? Only 166 games won? I have 62 games played and 52 wins, one tie. I'm a 27.

That doesn't make me better than you.

You have a K/D ratio of 1.8 something something something... Mine is a 1.52 average between my five accounts that I've had. Sheepdog108, Sheepdog128, KSI Sheepdog, KSI 108, and KSI OneOhEight.

That doesn't make you better than me.

Ratios don't mean crap in skill. I'm an assist person, apparently more-so than you, since I have a higher kill/assist ratio than you (fact, not hypocrisy). Again, this doesn't make me better than you.

If you want to know how good someone is, play them 1v1 to 25 on a neutral host, instead of comparing ratios. If that weren't the best way, then my K/D ratio being barely under yours, and my Win/Loss ratio being WAY ABOVE yours, I'd come out on top. ;)


As for TokenBlackGuy, you've gotten yourself in a corner. Either prove yourself by providing your other accounts, or this frivolous argument should cease here and now.


Look at my last Hardcore games. Just look at them, and look at how I did in relation to my team. I play with friends of mine who I go to school with, and to be perfectly honest, they are awful. I don't care though, I've been as high as a 34 in Hardcore with a 75% win ratio before the last stat reset. The ONLY time now, with Halo 3 two months away, I go in with a full party is with those kids. So, we lose. WIn/loss in a TEAM playlist, and especially in one as teamwork based as THC only reflects how much you care and how often you go in with a full party. But please, check all the THC games on the last two pages and tell me I am garbage.

And in addition, no KSI member should ever try and attack my playing ability because I KNOW I would wreck you.

[Edited on 08.06.2007 2:01 PM PDT]

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Posted by: RaW I RaptoR
Posted by: Sheepdog108
Posted by: RaW I RaptoR
Your ratio indicates that you get one kill for every two deaths. In other words, your average game includes you going double negative. There is absolutely no excuse for that, and post your other GT's so I can make a comparison.


I don't mean to come to his rescue, as his typing makes my eyes bleed, but perhaps you should pay attention to your own ratios.

Your 332 games played in Hardcore, yet you're only a level 23? Only 166 games won? I have 62 games played and 52 wins, one tie. I'm a 27.

That doesn't make me better than you.

You have a K/D ratio of 1.8 something something something... Mine is a 1.52 average between my five accounts that I've had. Sheepdog108, Sheepdog128, KSI Sheepdog, KSI 108, and KSI OneOhEight.

That doesn't make you better than me.

Ratios don't mean crap in skill. I'm an assist person, apparently more-so than you, since I have a higher kill/assist ratio than you (fact, not hypocrisy). Again, this doesn't make me better than you.

If you want to know how good someone is, play them 1v1 to 25 on a neutral host, instead of comparing ratios. If that weren't the best way, then my K/D ratio being barely under yours, and my Win/Loss ratio being WAY ABOVE yours, I'd come out on top. ;)


As for TokenBlackGuy, you've gotten yourself in a corner. Either prove yourself by providing your other accounts, or this frivolous argument should cease here and now.


Look at my last Hardcore games. Just look at them, and look at how I did in relation to my team. I play with friends of mine who I go to school with, and to be perfectly honest, they are awful. I don't care though, I've been as high as a 34 in Hardcore with a 75% win ratio before the last stat reset. The ONLY time now, with Halo 3 two months away, I go in with a full party is with those kids. So, we lose. WIn/loss in a TEAM playlist, and especially in one as teamwork based as THC only reflects how much you care and how often you go in with a full party. But please, check all the THC games on the last two pages and tell me I am garbage.

And in addition, no KSI member should ever try and attack my playing ability because I KNOW I would wreck you.

Maybe you should find better partners. Also don't bash him because he's in KSI
And dont say you can wreck somebody you have never played with. Who knows he might be better than you.
And anyways congratulations for being the backbone for your team... (It's not like your the only one)

  • 08.06.2007 2:24 PM PDT
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I'm an Elite because it just looks cool, especially with the colors I selected(P Tan S Brown)

If there is a handicap at all(I haven't noticed it), then good, it only makes me better.

  • 08.06.2007 2:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: TheTruthOfAllTru
Posted by: RaW I RaptoR
Posted by: Sheepdog108
Posted by: RaW I RaptoR
Your ratio indicates that you get one kill for every two deaths. In other words, your average game includes you going double negative. There is absolutely no excuse for that, and post your other GT's so I can make a comparison.


I don't mean to come to his rescue, as his typing makes my eyes bleed, but perhaps you should pay attention to your own ratios.

Your 332 games played in Hardcore, yet you're only a level 23? Only 166 games won? I have 62 games played and 52 wins, one tie. I'm a 27.

That doesn't make me better than you.

You have a K/D ratio of 1.8 something something something... Mine is a 1.52 average between my five accounts that I've had. Sheepdog108, Sheepdog128, KSI Sheepdog, KSI 108, and KSI OneOhEight.

That doesn't make you better than me.

Ratios don't mean crap in skill. I'm an assist person, apparently more-so than you, since I have a higher kill/assist ratio than you (fact, not hypocrisy). Again, this doesn't make me better than you.

If you want to know how good someone is, play them 1v1 to 25 on a neutral host, instead of comparing ratios. If that weren't the best way, then my K/D ratio being barely under yours, and my Win/Loss ratio being WAY ABOVE yours, I'd come out on top. ;)


As for TokenBlackGuy, you've gotten yourself in a corner. Either prove yourself by providing your other accounts, or this frivolous argument should cease here and now.


Look at my last Hardcore games. Just look at them, and look at how I did in relation to my team. I play with friends of mine who I go to school with, and to be perfectly honest, they are awful. I don't care though, I've been as high as a 34 in Hardcore with a 75% win ratio before the last stat reset. The ONLY time now, with Halo 3 two months away, I go in with a full party is with those kids. So, we lose. WIn/loss in a TEAM playlist, and especially in one as teamwork based as THC only reflects how much you care and how often you go in with a full party. But please, check all the THC games on the last two pages and tell me I am garbage.

And in addition, no KSI member should ever try and attack my playing ability because I KNOW I would wreck you.

Maybe you should find better partners. Also don't bash him because he's in KSI
And dont say you can wreck somebody you have never played with. Who knows he might be better than you.
And anyways congratulations for being the backbone for your team... (It's not like your the only one)


See, the thing is, and as if this wasn't obvious, I don't care. I play for fun with my friends, and especially since this game is just about to be done since Halo 3 is coming out in 2 months, it doesn't matter. When I did care about impressing scrubs like yourself and went in with a full team so some random nerd wouldn't go LOL UR WIN RATIO IS BAD, I did fairly well.

And KSI is garbage, the fact that you don't realize that makes me wonder if you are as well.

  • 08.06.2007 2:33 PM PDT
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i got a 1-1 kill to death prety much, and i use the ellite, i dont find my self easier to kill than a normal spartan(in fact i kill MORE spartans, that might be because of all the stupid stition surrounding the ellite), and gold ellite FTW

  • 08.06.2007 2:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: Janube Taso
Actually, I'm fairly certain that Bungie said that the same hitboxes were used in creating both spartans and elites.
Therefore, there's no disadvantage aside from the smaller zoom screen, pink border, and ugliness.
Of course, that's more than made up for in the fact that elites can melee with a brute shot twice as fast as spartans.

and i quote you guys are idiots, I cannot tell you how many times a discussion about which is easier to snipe. Non lack anything, you guys just think that because most people who play with elite aren't very good, but some are, I like to play as an elite actually, and I do fine.

  • 08.06.2007 3:32 PM PDT

I am flatterd that you botherd to look at my signature.

because elites are way to awesome for most people. lol

  • 08.06.2007 3:41 PM PDT
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TokenBlackguy still hasn't accepted my friend request.

  • 08.06.2007 3:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: twilightwolf400
Mine's an Elite.


ON NOEZ a Dinosaur.

  • 08.06.2007 3:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: RaW I RaptoR
Posted by: TheTruthOfAllTru
Posted by: RaW I RaptoR
Posted by: Sheepdog108
Posted by: RaW I RaptoR
Your ratio indicates that you get one kill for every two deaths. In other words, your average game includes you going double negative. There is absolutely no excuse for that, and post your other GT's so I can make a comparison.


I don't mean to come to his rescue, as his typing makes my eyes bleed, but perhaps you should pay attention to your own ratios.

Your 332 games played in Hardcore, yet you're only a level 23? Only 166 games won? I have 62 games played and 52 wins, one tie. I'm a 27.

That doesn't make me better than you.

You have a K/D ratio of 1.8 something something something... Mine is a 1.52 average between my five accounts that I've had. Sheepdog108, Sheepdog128, KSI Sheepdog, KSI 108, and KSI OneOhEight.

That doesn't make you better than me.

Ratios don't mean crap in skill. I'm an assist person, apparently more-so than you, since I have a higher kill/assist ratio than you (fact, not hypocrisy). Again, this doesn't make me better than you.

If you want to know how good someone is, play them 1v1 to 25 on a neutral host, instead of comparing ratios. If that weren't the best way, then my K/D ratio being barely under yours, and my Win/Loss ratio being WAY ABOVE yours, I'd come out on top. ;)


As for TokenBlackGuy, you've gotten yourself in a corner. Either prove yourself by providing your other accounts, or this frivolous argument should cease here and now.


Look at my last Hardcore games. Just look at them, and look at how I did in relation to my team. I play with friends of mine who I go to school with, and to be perfectly honest, they are awful. I don't care though, I've been as high as a 34 in Hardcore with a 75% win ratio before the last stat reset. The ONLY time now, with Halo 3 two months away, I go in with a full party is with those kids. So, we lose. WIn/loss in a TEAM playlist, and especially in one as teamwork based as THC only reflects how much you care and how often you go in with a full party. But please, check all the THC games on the last two pages and tell me I am garbage.

And in addition, no KSI member should ever try and attack my playing ability because I KNOW I would wreck you.

Maybe you should find better partners. Also don't bash him because he's in KSI
And dont say you can wreck somebody you have never played with. Who knows he might be better than you.
And anyways congratulations for being the backbone for your team... (It's not like your the only one)


See, the thing is, and as if this wasn't obvious, I don't care. I play for fun with my friends, and especially since this game is just about to be done since Halo 3 is coming out in 2 months, it doesn't matter. When I did care about impressing scrubs like yourself and went in with a full team so some random nerd wouldn't go LOL UR WIN RATIO IS BAD, I did fairly well.

And KSI is garbage, the fact that you don't realize that makes me wonder if you are as well.

Well, if you don't care then stop talking like your the best as far as I know there a plenty other people who are better than you
Also, dont insult me by calling me garbage when you yourself have never played with me...
So please stop showing your ignorance...
Notice, I didn't say KSI was good, I said don't bash them... They are people too.

[Edited on 08.06.2007 4:17 PM PDT]

  • 08.06.2007 4:05 PM PDT

Posted by: Thunter124
i got a 1-1 kill to death prety much, and i use the ellite, i dont find my self easier to kill than a normal spartan(in fact i kill MORE spartans, that might be because of all the stupid stition surrounding the ellite), and gold ellite FTW



or you might kill more spartans because there arent many people that play as elites, so in a 4v4 if there is an elite on each team you have 3 spartans and 1 elite to kill. perhaps.

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Well, if you don't care then stop talking like your the best as far as I know there a plenty other people who are better than you
No -blam!- there's people better than me, and I am better than many people, many are in this thread.

Also, dont insult me by calling me garbage when you yourself have never played with me...

I have never been wrong, ever, about judging the skill of a player without playing them.

Want to prove me wrong? Send me a FR and we can run some custom games for kicks.
So please stop showing your ignorance...

OH NO A BIG WORD HE SAID IM IGNORANT THIS TOTALLY VALIDATED HIS POSITION

Notice, I didn't say KSI was good, I said don't bash them... They are people too.

No, they're not.

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Posted by: RaW I RaptoR

OH NO A BIG WORD HE SAID IM IGNORANT THIS TOTALLY VALIDATED HIS POSITION


Wow, I can't believe you got so worked up over that.
Calm down...

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Posted by: TheTruthOfAllTru
Posted by: RaW I RaptoR

OH NO A BIG WORD HE SAID IM IGNORANT THIS TOTALLY VALIDATED HIS POSITION


Wow, I can't believe you got so worked up over that.
Calm down...


The caps were meant to portray a pretend shock/surprise. Way to address the rest though. You misinterpreted one part of my post and managed to only acknowledge that rather than the whole post.

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Posted by: Done DL
TokenBlackguy still hasn't accepted my friend request.


hmmm maybe because as i stated earler, Token(me) is from australia. so when you's are all awake. i'm asleep(we're 14 hours ahead of you's remember)....

As from proving myself to you's by providing my other accounts y should i? i'm not out to prove myself to the world, i'm only out to prove to you's that an elite can hold there own, n most likely(if they are a good player) out play a spartan...

i haven't said i would beat anyone have i? so why shiould you's all trash talk me n over a forum, thats really sad. even sader then trash talking on xbl...
all i've said is that i'm a good player n i could possibly beat alot of ppl that use a spartan.... and if i can do that with this account while you's think i suck coz of my supposibly low K/D ratio(my 4yr old nephew use's this account more than me)so be it....

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Posted by: RaW I RaptoR
Posted by: TheTruthOfAllTru
Posted by: RaW I RaptoR

OH NO A BIG WORD HE SAID IM IGNORANT THIS TOTALLY VALIDATED HIS POSITION


Wow, I can't believe you got so worked up over that.
Calm down...


The caps were meant to portray a pretend shock/surprise. Way to address the rest though. You misinterpreted one part of my post and managed to only acknowledge that rather than the whole post.

I did acknowledge your post...
But, now I really don't care any more...

  • 08.06.2007 7:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: TheTruthOfAllTru
Posted by: A BiG FaT EIiT3
Posted by: TheTruthOfAllTru
Posted by: A BiG FaT EIiT3
^Except for the little thing about the Elite's head sticking out farther so the Spartan would have the sword advantage over an Elite?

Shut up, both of you.

So you'd use the sword excuse
If you hadn't notice there are 3 beat down statistics
Standing - Does a little bit of damage
Running - Does more damage (Two of these can kill)
Aerial - Does the most damage
Now when a spartan lunges with a sword at an Elite & they both Jump
just press the B button, even though the Spartan lunged at you he would die first
due to the fact that if were to use the simple melee it connect first before the Initial slice.
Learn more about Halo 2...
Learn more about Halo 2? Lawl. Since what you said makes no sense, I'll clarify. A Spartan and Elite fight. The Elite's head sticks out more, so the Spartan will have the advantage. BTW, a lunge with the sword doesn't do "a little bit of damage". You're an idiot. STFU and learn what you're talking about.

I wasn't talking about the sword there, I was talking about other weapons,
Every weapon has a distinct feature that goes with a melee
A sword when you melee will only take the shield off
If your in the air with the sword & melee it kills.
You obviously don't pay attention to statistics,
A lunge will kill you, However their is a short window that if you melee before they Cut.
They die...
Weapons are classified in Three classes
Light.
Med .
Heavy.
Try hitting someone with different weapons & See for yourself.
And? Spartans still have the advantage. The weapon classes don't change the Spartan advantage over the Elite.

  • 08.06.2007 9:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: A BiG FaT EIiT3
Posted by: TheTruthOfAllTru
Posted by: A BiG FaT EIiT3
Posted by: TheTruthOfAllTru
Posted by: A BiG FaT EIiT3
^Except for the little thing about the Elite's head sticking out farther so the Spartan would have the sword advantage over an Elite?

Shut up, both of you.

So you'd use the sword excuse
If you hadn't notice there are 3 beat down statistics
Standing - Does a little bit of damage
Running - Does more damage (Two of these can kill)
Aerial - Does the most damage
Now when a spartan lunges with a sword at an Elite & they both Jump
just press the B button, even though the Spartan lunged at you he would die first
due to the fact that if were to use the simple melee it connect first before the Initial slice.
Learn more about Halo 2...
Learn more about Halo 2? Lawl. Since what you said makes no sense, I'll clarify. A Spartan and Elite fight. The Elite's head sticks out more, so the Spartan will have the advantage. BTW, a lunge with the sword doesn't do "a little bit of damage". You're an idiot. STFU and learn what you're talking about.

I wasn't talking about the sword there, I was talking about other weapons,
Every weapon has a distinct feature that goes with a melee
A sword when you melee will only take the shield off
If your in the air with the sword & melee it kills.
You obviously don't pay attention to statistics,
A lunge will kill you, However their is a short window that if you melee before they Cut.
They die...
Weapons are classified in Three classes
Light.
Med .
Heavy.
Try hitting someone with different weapons & See for yourself.
And? Spartans still have the advantage. The weapon classes don't change the Spartan advantage over the Elite.

There is still that small window of opportunity that allows an counter.
A sword is a special weapon that if your in the air and just melee you can kill someone without having to lunge.
Thats why if the lunge at you just jump and slice they will die because they got hit first...
I am glad now that you understand the weapon classes.

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Well on XBL, the latency plays too much of a factor for that small window of opportunity to exist, unless the Elite is on host.

Even so, it's still hard to outmelee a sword, but sometimes people just get lucky.

  • 08.06.2007 10:04 PM PDT