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Subject: Why do so few people choose to be a Covenant Elite?
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Posted by: TheTruthOfAllTru
Posted by: Heroyi
elites head from side sticks out, easy to shoot. in front of elite head is in chest range again aim for chest which is a large range and auto aim takes its course. back side well its really same wen spartan or elite turn around with back to u shoot same general area to kill in one (although elites are harder) elites body are bigger and when hit their shields gets "bigger" making easier to shoot due to killing elites on the halo games i suppose lol.elites are easier to kill for me at least and never had troube. also when the elites jump they are like big blob while chief is a small little baby when crouching.

[quote]Posted by: Heroyi
That made me laugh... Anyways just choose who you want.
But honestly you can't tell me you find it hard to hit something that is on its shoulders.
But, yes there are very few good Elites...
Some Elites are actually very good.


lol yea well wat can i say j/k i have met some good elites but im saying majority are easy but yea choose who u want i guess ur skillz is what makes u pull through the game

  • 08.08.2007 10:56 AM PDT
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im pretty sure its because they r so easy to hit spartans hide so much easier

  • 08.08.2007 12:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: RhythmKiller
Posted by: RaW I RaptoR
When I did care about impressing scrubs like yourself and went in with a full team so some random nerd wouldn't go LOL UR WIN RATIO IS BAD, I did fairly well.

Oh, the irony hurts so bad.....


I understand how that looks, but the two ratios are different. As an individual player, his kill/death ratio is bad, as a player going into a Team based playlist with not very good teammates, I have a bad ratio. The two are obviously different and one can be controlled by the individual (kill/death ratio) while th other, (my win ratio in a team based playlist) can't really be if I choose to play with my friends. Think bout it.

  • 08.08.2007 3:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sheepdog108
Posted by: RaW I RaptoR
See, the thing is, and as if this wasn't obvious, I don't care. I play for fun with my friends, and especially since this game is just about to be done since Halo 3 is coming out in 2 months, it doesn't matter. When I did care about impressing scrubs like yourself and went in with a full team so some random nerd wouldn't go LOL UR WIN RATIO IS BAD, I did fairly well.

And KSI is garbage, the fact that you don't realize that makes me wonder if you are as well.


You're a hypocrite. Quite a childish one, at that. I pointed out YOUR ratios because you pointed out SOMEONE ELSE's ratios. It was to shut you up, not to say anything in particular about your skill. Who's the nerd?
Not to mention that I never ONCE said you were bad. Re-read, child. Re-read my lines saying, "That doesn't necessarily make me better than you."
READ. That's why you're on the forums, isn't it, kid?


OH NOES! A THREE LETTER CLAN FROM HELL!
You assume that every kid in KSI is bad? Why? Because everyone you know says that KSI is bad? Sure, KSI has a lot of trashy players. You know what, though? It has OVER TEN FREAKING THOUSAND MEMBERS. OF COURSE IT HAS BAD PLAYERS. Make up your own god damned mind for once after having experienced Fear KSI and Ego Killers teamplay, instead of being a stupid punk drone who listens to everyone else.

You're a judgemental punk with the maturity of a 12 year old, waving your gaming ego around like you have a big dick. Stop mastur-bating (hyphened for Bungie's censor) every time you stick someone or call a KSI or XGC member a "n00b".

You know what? In fact, a "headhunter" for my squad would gladly play you 1v1 to represent KSI. I'll have him send you a friend request and show you how garbage KSI is. Your host, his host, neutral host, sniping, no sniping, it doesn't god damned matter. And if you decline it, shut the hell up and go home, child. Zip up your pants while you're at it. If you do accept it, I'll post the gameplay right here.

Oh, I'm sorry, I just read up. Did I read that you said you play for fun? Why the bloody hell did you seek out his K/D ratio and call him a "n00b", then? Had to whip out your magic stick, didn't you? Again, for god's sake, go home, hypocrite.


Read my post above. There are differences is individual vs team based ratios. His wasn't very good. Neither is my THC ratio. But my individual one isn't quite as bad.

I am yet to receive a FR from your KSI friend, and yes, with the exception of the pro teams, KSI is bad from the top to bottom.

I do play for fun? But I have fun winning as well, but even when I lose, as long as I do well, then its fine. When you want to try and cram everything under one topic to make me look hypocritical, then that's sad. He is not good, but since when does that make me a psycho hardcore gamer?

The rest of your post is just angst at me insulting KSI, I don't even need to address it.

  • 08.08.2007 3:14 PM PDT
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the people that dont choose covenants because they havent explored the uses of the elite because all theyve heard is crappy -blam!- about them when they could be a good use to the battlefield alone

  • 08.08.2007 3:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: RaW I RaptoR
I am yet to receive a FR from your KSI friend, and yes, with the exception of the pro teams, KSI is bad from the top to bottom.

I do play for fun? But I have fun winning as well, but even when I lose, as long as I do well, then its fine. When you want to try and cram everything under one topic to make me look hypocritical, then that's sad. He is not good, but since when does that make me a psycho hardcore gamer?

The rest of your post is just angst at me insulting KSI, I don't even need to address it.


You're right; it was angst toward your biased and immature assumption about said three-letter-clans. As for the friend request, I've not had the time to get on; my brother has just arrived home from Iraq, and my time on Xbox Live is very limited. Expect it within the next week.

My point about the ratios was never to say you were a bad player, as I [thought I had] made obvious in my last response. My point was that you sought out to point out that someone's ratios didn't represent them as a skillful player. Beyond that, when I pointed out yours (again, never once stating you were a bad player), you proceeded to insult me and call me out as if I'd demeaned you.

Also, I'm not cramming. It's quite easy to type a few extra buttons for a couple of paragraphs.

As for this discussion, it should be closed so as not to further our petty argument concerning three-letter-clans and player's skill ratios. It was a discussion about usage of the Elite character model, for which I'll state my opinion again.

Bungie wouldn't be foolish enough to make the mistake of making the Elite's hitbox larger, but their ease to kill is a psychological side effect, I believe, of a combination of things. The character MODEL (not hitbox) is larger than the Spartan's, which adds to the confidence of the player playing against said opponent. It's a noiser character than the Spartan, and being a larger model, is harder to hide around corners. The purple HUD vs. the blue HUD, as well as the larger hands and legs, can make it somewhat awkward for the player, as well, throwing off their skill somewhat.
By logic and mathematics, being an Elite would not create a disadvantage, but through psychological effects I believe it can tip the balance somewhat in favour of the opponents.

  • 08.08.2007 11:10 PM PDT

Jokes about deaths aren't funny.

Carter out.

balls to that, man

you are like a monk, very wise.

  • 08.08.2007 11:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: MrBojangles136
I like dick

Lets just end this now....
Im a 44, I play as an Elite.
Am i BAD now?
I thought not.

  • 08.08.2007 11:30 PM PDT

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Spartans are better. Simple as that.

Elites do stick out more. No, I'm not saying "TEH L337 HAS A BIG HEADZ0RS FOR SNIPEINGING!1!1!!!!111!", I'm saying the Spartan is more uniform and compact than the Elite.

Why do I choose the Spartan? I prefer the design. I think it's more visually appealing.

  • 08.09.2007 12:04 AM PDT

I play to win, not to survive.

Originally I just picked the Spartan because I like the way he looks.

Yet, I do find it much easier to get a headshot on an elite instead of a spartan.

I'm not the greatest sniper, but whenever I'm facing an Elite I sure do seem alot better at it.

  • 08.09.2007 12:42 AM PDT

Your mother should have swallowed!

As much as we all want to squabble about it, bungie admitted that the elite hitbox was slightly different (perhaps bigger, i'm not sure what exactly), and therefore were easier to hit due to a programming error or something of that sort.

Thereofre the elite has a slight disadvantage, due to the way the hitboxes are made out, as compared to a spartan. Wether he's just pink, fugly, or easier to hit doesn't matter. Play what you want to play, apparently it's not so bad as that guy said earlier, he's a 44 and an elite. It's skillz.

So why so few people do? Because they know it has a bigger fault than the Spartan armor does. Does that answer your question?

And how the hell is anyone supposed to know!? Maybe they don't play as elites because they hate covenant, or maybe they just think they're satanic, or dumb, or a little -blam!-, or a lot -blam!-, or maybe they love elites and worship them so much they refuse to play with them for fear of seeing one's dead corpse? Or maybe it's just because spartans kick too much ass.

  • 08.09.2007 1:26 AM PDT
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Elites weigh less than Spartans (125 for Spartans, 100 for Elites), they move farther on impact (1.25 for Spartans, 1.3 for Elites. The higher the number indicates the farther they fly on impact), and those are probably the only differences other than shape. I am not sure about the head being easier to head shot, seeing as most of the people I have played as an Elite are horrible skill wise.

Edit: Elites change position speed differently then Spartans. Slower or faster I don't know.

[Edited on 08.09.2007 7:05 AM PDT]

  • 08.09.2007 7:04 AM PDT
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To be honest, I've never like KSI players, not particularly good sports or very good, but I suppose it's because *everyone* joins KSI and I've just never played a good one :-P

Anyway, I think the reason that just about every good player plays as a spartan is because MLG regulations dictate that your profile is a spartan character (it used to be, I do not know if it is still so).

  • 08.09.2007 7:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sgt_Spell
As much as we all want to squabble about it, bungie admitted that the elite hitbox was slightly different (perhaps bigger, i'm not sure what exactly), and therefore were easier to hit due to a programming error or something of that sort.

Thereofre the elite has a slight disadvantage, due to the way the hitboxes are made out, as compared to a spartan. Wether he's just pink, fugly, or easier to hit doesn't matter. Play what you want to play, apparently it's not so bad as that guy said earlier, he's a 44 and an elite. It's skillz.

So why so few people do? Because they know it has a bigger fault than the Spartan armor does. Does that answer your question?

And how the hell is anyone supposed to know!? Maybe they don't play as elites because they hate covenant, or maybe they just think they're satanic, or dumb, or a little -blam!-, or a lot -blam!-, or maybe they love elites and worship them so much they refuse to play with them for fear of seeing one's dead corpse? Or maybe it's just because spartans kick too much ass.


I have said this before... When have they admitted this?
I want proof, of Bungie admitting their mistake.

  • 08.09.2007 9:18 AM PDT

Elites look -blam!- carryingf human weapons.Nuff said.

  • 08.09.2007 1:20 PM PDT
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halo 2 elites are easier to kill and it's a fact, it was proven a long long time ago, i read on some site a while back, just search google for it. And also, 99% of people who use elites are noobs who don't play ranked matches.

  • 08.09.2007 2:50 PM PDT
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right im a noob for using an elite why not throw in some racism while your at it?
Posted by: American1337Hax
halo 2 elites are easier to kill and it's a fact, it was proven a long long time ago, i read on some site a while back, just search google for it. And also, 99% of people who use elites are noobs who don't play ranked matches.

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key word 99%, and i don't even know if you are good.

  • 08.09.2007 2:58 PM PDT
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well i dont know if this is good or not but hey ive only ben on live for a month and a half

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo2.aspx?gameid=746913 346&player=Paradox428
Posted by: American1337Hax
key word 99%, and i don't even know if you are good.

  • 08.09.2007 3:02 PM PDT
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sorry you aren't good, it may be cause of you being an elite too, i know you haven't had live very long, but try being a spartan.

  • 08.09.2007 3:18 PM PDT
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im worse with a spartan sorry to say.

anywho i might suck cuase of the fact i get paired with morons most the time " i know i aughta invite my friends" but i still like trying alone.
Posted by: American1337Hax
sorry you aren't good, it may be cause of you being an elite too, i know you haven't had live very long, but try being a spartan.

  • 08.09.2007 3:21 PM PDT