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Subject: Seriously. Why do people hate the Assault Rifle?
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I had my friend over yesterday, and we played three player split-screen with my brother. It was Slayer Pro, with AR's and Pistols, and we have found out how amazingly awesome the AR is on Multiplayer, especially in cramped maps like Prisoner, Rat Race and Wizard.

It kills in 26 shots, has a 60 round magazine, good accuracy and a massive firerate! Why do people hate the Assault Rifle so much?

And yes, I killed him multiple times when he was using the pistol as well.


  • 08.05.2007 6:43 PM PDT
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People hate it cause they can't use it. If you know how to use it, it's one of the best weapons there is.

  • 08.05.2007 6:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Digi7
It kills in 26 shots, has a 60 round magazine, good accuracy
Hahahahahahahaahahahaahahahaha!

Twenty-six shots? Are you going to get all of those shots in? At medium range? Why not use the pistol instead?

Posted by: Digi7
Why do people hate the Assault Rifle so much?
Because it's a freaking assault weapon. It's supposed to be your main staple, your weapon of choice, but instead, as a design flaw made by Bungie, the pistol turned out to be the superior weapon. The side-arm replacing the assault weapon? Please.

Although, I'm not complaining, because it's mostly just a cosmetic issue. The assault rifle isn't too useless, though. It's actually quite effective in close range; except that you'd rather want a shotgun in that situation. Just fire six-something bullets followed by a running melee will give you a kill.

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  • 08.05.2007 6:58 PM PDT
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The Assault Rifle was great. The only thing I didn't really like was it's accuracy, and how useless it was against weapons like the pistol.

  • 08.06.2007 11:45 AM PDT
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well i hated it because ii could stand five feet from an elite and it would drain the whole clip and a melee to kill it on legendary

on easy it is awesome works just right about 25 rounds for a kill

and on multiplayer its pretty good att close ranges when a shottys not around

  • 08.06.2007 12:04 PM PDT
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It has a fast rate of fire which makes it very difficult for someone with a pistol to react, aim, and stay zoomed.

  • 08.06.2007 12:06 PM PDT
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because they don't know bull-blam!- about miltary weaponary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that is a fine weapon.

not a bit overrated

the pistol is okay but it could be better. I am not complaning Great job Bugie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • 08.06.2007 1:43 PM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
Church: "tucker, i think he means a pacifier"

i don't think that it's so much an issue of the AR being bad, but the pistol being grossly over-useful. due to the range, power and accuracy it was the most effective all around weapon in halo. i love to use it, but in all honestly it was far to powerful for any pistol. the AR functions the same way any auto-rifle would, it's not made to be very accurate at long range, and full-auto will cause even less accuracy, which is also a little touch of reality.

  • 08.06.2007 2:02 PM PDT

It is very good in multiplayer, especially if you go on full auto spraying around the person you're aiming at.

On Campaign, it's not my weapon of choice. But it is still good against most enemies.

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whoever said that the AR sucks is -blam!-, that gun is great its my best gun seriously its my best gun, that and the shotgun is my combo..

whenever im home alone at home i turn up the TV so loud and start playing it and the AR sounds of the chain you know what i mean!

Weasel

  • 08.06.2007 2:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: I_am_Weasle
whoever said that the AR sucks is -blam!-, that gun is great its my best gun seriously its my best gun, that and the shotgun is my combo..

whenever im home alone at home i turn up the TV so loud and start playing it and the AR sounds of the chain you know what i mean!

Weasel
So, what the assault rifle lacks in stopping power it more than makes up by its size, sound, and quantity?

  • 08.06.2007 2:20 PM PDT
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master kim, im not trying to say anything bad but what are you trying to say?

Weasel

  • 08.06.2007 2:27 PM PDT

Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: I_am_Weasle
whoever said that the AR sucks is -blam!-, that gun is great its my best gun seriously its my best gun, that and the shotgun is my combo..

whenever im home alone at home i turn up the TV so loud and start playing it and the AR sounds of the chain you know what i mean!

Weasel
So, what the assault rifle lacks in stopping power it more than makes up by its size, sound, and quantity?


Good point Kim. It's good in Easy, okay in Normal, but pretty useless against everything but Grunts & popcorn flood in Heroic and above.

BTW, Weasel, you don't have to post your name on your post. It's in your signature.

  • 08.06.2007 2:34 PM PDT
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no even on Legendary i used the AR to kill of grunts, but on Legendary my combo was shotgun and sniper

ps. i like putting my name there...

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Posted by: I_am_Weasle
no even on Legendary i used the AR to kill of grunts, but on Legendary my combo was shotgun and sniper

ps. i like putting my name there...

Weasel
I can't believe I'm correcting you but that's not even how you spelled your name right. Wouldn't you end your post with "I_am_Weasle" rather than "Weasel"?

The only time the assault rifle is any good in campaign is if you use it to bring down the Flood, which in higher difficulties, is actually quite effective.

  • 08.06.2007 2:45 PM PDT
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for the casual CE player, the assault rifle seems like a great gun

but as soon as you play REALLY good CE players...you find out that the assault rifle is crap when compared to other guns.

my favorite CE guns in order:

#1: Pistol
obviously. 3 and out. close, mid, far. can also pick out the driver of ANY vehicle. need i say more?

#2 sniper
another obvious choice.

#3 rocket
i put this here because sometimes you get surprised, you get behind in a fight, and if you have the RL you can whip it out for a free kill. good backup weapon.

#4 plasma pistol
my favorite starting weapon, just because VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE GOOD WITH IT. if you get good at pumping this thing fast while aiming well (you need to lead your target just right) then you are unstoppable. the plasma "freezes" them but is also strong enough to kill (unlike in H2). so if you are far away you can easily kill with it or get close enough to finish with a melee. i rank it above the plasma rifle because you can actually pump this gun and achieve more rapid fire than the rifle, and you get the option to charge/melee for an instant kill.

#5 shotgun
only for close combat, and i mean REALLY close combat. the pistol should pretty much always be used unless you're rounding corners...then use this badboy

#6 plasma rifle
get good at leading........the freeze on this thing (like the PP) is great, but you gotta melee with this thing to stand a chance against other weapons. i like to circle them while freezing while getting closer to melee finish

TIED FOR #7 AND #8 THE NEEDLER AND ASSAULT RIFLE
the needler and assault rifle tie for last in my book for this simple reason:

if you use one of these guns against a good player who has ANY of the above guns, then you lose. it's that simple. your gun is outmatched.

it doesn't matter how perfectly you pump the trigger, the gun is not accurate enough and does not kill quickly enough to warrant using.

EDIT: i forgot to mention the worthlessness of carrying an AR on legendary. it is only OK at killing grunts. big shocker here, the pistol is better because it's a 1-shot kill (i'm assuming headshot, it is legendary after all). you can't get by pairing the AR with pistol either. try taking on 2 elites with the AR and let me know how that goes. you need to use a plasma weapon or a snipe on elites to beat legendary efficiently.

EDIT 2: sorry, last edit, the AR is good for killing the little flood infection types (the popcorn with legs) because it doesn't waste your good guns' ammo

EDIT 3: sorry again. i re-read and noticed i sounded cocky like "i'm awesome." i'm not incredible, i'm not a pro, but i was a lot better than average at CE. the people i played with were also quite good. if any of us *dreamed* of using the assault rifle we got owned by the others. that's reality

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  • 08.06.2007 2:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: I_am_Weasle
no even on Legendary i used the AR to kill of grunts, but on Legendary my combo was shotgun and sniper

ps. i like putting my name there...

Weasel
I can't believe I'm correcting you but that's not even how you spelled your name right. Wouldn't you end your post with "I_am_Weasle" rather than "Weasel"?


actually i know what im doing im just being safe in case Cartoon network wants to sue me for using there name...

as you can see at the end of my posting my name is spelled correctly

Weasel

  • 08.06.2007 3:00 PM PDT

Every gun has a place in Halo 1:

Pistol - all around good gun

Sniper - long range

Rocket - mid to close range

AR, PR, Shotty - All good close range guns. PR is good for the freezing, shotty does the most damage and AR has the best melee, not to mention to start with it. All of these guns can also be used to quick camoing.

PP - really only good for taking down someones OS if they aren't looking.

BTW, the AR is a 16 shot kill, not 26.

  • 08.06.2007 3:05 PM PDT
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PP is better than PR once you get good at it; it can shoot a lot faster (if you're pumping that fast though it's hard to aim) and does the same damage.

trust me, you can beat heroic using only PP and most of legendary (with a dash of pistol/sniper)

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  • 08.06.2007 3:23 PM PDT
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OK just because of this I went and played Halo and I was wrong the AR is a good wepon aslong as controlled bursts are used and a melee here and there .

  • 08.06.2007 3:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spartan 25 Neal
OK just because of this I went and played Halo and I was wrong the AR is a good wepon aslong as controlled bursts are used and a melee here and there .
i wish i still had xbox connect hooked up so i could play you! pick any gun for me to use (other than needler or shotgun from far away) and i will beat you if you have AR

  • 08.06.2007 3:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: I_am_Weasle
actually i know what im doing im just being safe in case Cartoon network wants to sue me for using there name...

as you can see at the end of my posting my name is spelled correctly

Weasel
The correct moniker is I.M. Weasel; "I_am_Weasle" is something else.

  • 08.06.2007 5:11 PM PDT
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ok you win win master kim whatever helps you sleep at night

Weasel

  • 08.06.2007 7:33 PM PDT
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Good point Kim. It's good in Easy, okay in Normal, but pretty useless against everything but Grunts & popcorn flood in Heroic and above.
Untrue. It always had good power against grunts, jackals, sentinels (yes, its true!), and any form of flood. It does ok damage to elites and hunters on easy and normal, but was weak against shielding on heroic/legendary, so on those difficulties you were better off with a PR or PP.

  • 08.06.2007 8:43 PM PDT
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I love it in campaign. Even on legendary. A few shots with a frag could kill 2 elites at a time. But the pistol is way better in multiplayer.

^The AR is VERY BAD against sentinels on legendary.

[Edited on 08.07.2007 5:27 AM PDT]

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