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Subject: Seriously. Why do people hate the Assault Rifle?
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In harder difficulties, the plasma pistol is a better weapon than the assault rifle.

  • 08.07.2007 6:07 AM PDT
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They suck at aiming and locking on to enemies, hence they say it sucks.

  • 08.07.2007 7:29 AM PDT
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no truly good players use the assault rifle on the competitive level

there is ALWAYS a better option in your other hand (pistol or PP)

  • 08.07.2007 1:21 PM PDT

The name's SXcalibur, but to you, it's Daddy.

I loved the Assault Rifle...I don't know why people hate it.

  • 08.07.2007 2:18 PM PDT
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For all the people who say it can't kill elites on legendary, it CAN! I finish levels FAST with that baby.

  • 08.07.2007 4:27 PM PDT
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i bet i can kill an elite faster, die less, and lose less health than you on legendary by using the better weapons

edit: why do you think it wasnt in h2.....because it had no place in the game



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  • 08.07.2007 5:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: Synthy_steel
For all the people who say it can't kill elites on legendary, it CAN! I finish levels FAST with that baby.
And I bet you lose ammo even faster. Depends what levels you play on.

  • 08.07.2007 6:58 PM PDT
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i just played keyes on legendary. the end of that level has spec ops elites EVERYWHERE. at one spot in particular, i tried taking on just two of them using grenades, AR, and melee.

key word: tried

the only times i was successful were when i was able to stick one and quickly get off another grenade to make the other one jump. even then, my shields were already gone and the one left killed me about 50% of the time.

overall, the AR was worthless against them and yes i know how to pulse.

ps i tried it my way with PP and pistol and rocked the hizouse. not charged PP either, pumping to take shield from a distance, then finishing w/ pistol

  • 08.07.2007 7:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: xdwightschrutex
i just played keyes on legendary. the end of that level has spec ops elites EVERYWHERE. at one spot in particular, i tried taking on just two of them using grenades, AR, and melee.

key word: tried

the only times i was successful were when i was able to stick one and quickly get off another grenade to make the other one jump. even then, my shields were already gone and the one left killed me about 50% of the time.

overall, the AR was worthless against them and yes i know how to pulse.



ps i tried it my way with PP and pistol and rocked the hizouse. not charged PP either, pumping to take shield from a distance, then finishing w/ pistol


Keywords: LEGENDARY, SPECOPS ELITES, THREE. Of course it would suck against SpecOps elites on Legendary. They are the 2nd toughest elites, and like I pointed out, LEGENDARY

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  • 08.07.2007 10:11 PM PDT

Posted by: xdwightschrutex
no truly good players use the assault rifle on the competitive level

there is ALWAYS a better option in your other hand (pistol or PP)

Good players use the AR all the time. 99% of the time it's better to have an AR+pistol than a PP+pistol. Why? The AR has a better melee and its better for finishing off people with no shields. The PP is only good for taking out someones OS and that's really only for Dammy, other than that there is no use for it. The PR and shotty are better than the AR but you don't spawn with them so the AR still gets used.

  • 08.08.2007 12:26 AM PDT
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Seriously. Why do people hate the Assault Rifle?

Because its a wothless peice of crap?

  • 08.08.2007 7:16 AM PDT
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Posted by: halo and pok3mon
Seriously. Why do people hate the Assault Rifle?

Because its a wothless peice of crap?
It's not that much of a wothless peice of crap.

  • 08.08.2007 7:21 AM PDT
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Depends on the situation you're stuck in. In multiplayer, when your fighting a guy with a pistol at medium range, you're dead, unless you get a good grenade throw in. That's just one example though. Close range, the Assault Rifle usually beats the pistol and sometimes the shotgun.

  • 08.08.2007 12:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: xdwightschrutex
no truly good players use the assault rifle on the competitive level

there is ALWAYS a better option in your other hand (pistol or PP)

Good players use the AR all the time. 99% of the time it's better to have an AR+pistol than a PP+pistol. Why? The AR has a better melee and its better for finishing off people with no shields. The PP is only good for taking out someones OS and that's really only for Dammy, other than that there is no use for it. The PR and shotty are better than the AR but you don't spawn with them so the AR still gets used.

"the AR has a better melee" - debatable, PP has fastest melee

"its better for finishing off people with no shields" - why aren't you using your pistol for that? one shot kill better than spray and pray

"the PP is only good for taking out someones OS" - not really, it's a pretty good all around gun once you get good at accurately pumping it fast. not many people realize how strong it really is because they're not good with it

"the PR and shotty are better than the AR" - and the PP is better than both of those. the PP does everything the PR does and more. you can shoot is faster OR charge it up to take out OS. you may argue that shotty is better than PP, but if you have shotty and i have PP, i can pump it and stick you in place while i back up out of your range.

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Posted by: xdwightschrutex
"the PR and shotty are better than the AR" - and the PP is better than both of those. the PP does everything the PR does and more.
No, it doesn't. Only the plasma rifle slows you down, which is an advantage that is all too often undermined.

Posted by: xdwightschrutex
you may argue that shotty is better than PP, but if you have shotty and i have PP, i can pump it and stick you in place while i back up out of your range.
I doubt it. :)

  • 08.08.2007 12:22 PM PDT
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1. the PP does slow down your enemies too

2. you clearly don't know what undermined means

3. and i dont care if you doubt what i know is true ;) just means i know more than you

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  • 08.08.2007 12:42 PM PDT
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i just watched some haloCE montages on youtube, and the only people i saw using the AR were people who died shortly after

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  • 08.08.2007 1:05 PM PDT

Posted by: xdwightschrutex
"the AR has a better melee" - debatable, PP has fastest melee

Its the fastest, but the AR melee is wider. How fast the melee is doesn't really matter anyway.

"its better for finishing off people with no shields" - why aren't you using your pistol for that? one shot kill better than spray and pray
I wouldn't use pistol for that because if I'm going to melee someone, I'd rather use the AR than the pistol. So if my melee doesn't kill them, I can easily kill them with the AR after.

"the PP is only good for taking out someones OS" - not really, it's a pretty good all around gun once you get good at accurately pumping it fast. not many people realize how strong it really is because they're not good with it
It's a strong gun, but I'd still rather use an AR, shotty or PR for close range.

"the PR and shotty are better than the AR" - and the PP is better than both of those. the PP does everything the PR does and more. you can shoot is faster OR charge it up to take out OS. you may argue that shotty is better than PP, but if you have shotty and i have PP, i can pump it and stick you in place while i back up out of your range.
But the PR is way easier to use. The PR does everything the PP does (minus the Overcharge) but you don't have to pull the trigger like a madman to do it. Also, I'm 99% sure that the PR's melee has a further reach. The PP is better than the shotty at anything besides pretty much point blank range, which is the only range you should be using a shotty to begin with.

  • 08.08.2007 3:13 PM PDT

Si-!

I love the assault rifle. I got into halo late and me and my friends never discovered the power of the pistol so our main weapons were AR, shotgun, and sniper.

  • 08.08.2007 5:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sporefrizzle
Its the fastest, but the AR melee is wider. How fast the melee is doesn't really matter anyway.
if you're confident in your melee aim you shouldnt care how wide the range is; i care more about how many i can get off in succession for fighting more than one person

Posted by: Sporefrizzle
I wouldn't use pistol for that because if I'm going to melee someone, I'd rather use the AR than the pistol. So if my melee doesn't kill them, I can easily kill them with the AR after.
i think we are talking about different situations here....im thinking of some dude running around with no shield, which gun would you rather use to shoot him and finish him off: the pistol or AR? im saying pistol because it's a simple one shot kill to the head rather than AR spraying which would def take longer

Posted by: Sporefrizzle
But the PR is way easier to use. The PR does everything the PP does (minus the Overcharge) but you don't have to pull the trigger like a madman to do it. Also, I'm 99% sure that the PR's melee has a further reach. The PP is better than the shotty at anything besides pretty much point blank range, which is the only range you should be using a shotty to begin with.
just because the PR is easier doesn't mean it's a better gun. that's what i've been saying all along, people love the AR because it's easy to use, but once you get good with other guns it becomes obsolete. the same goes for the PR, it's easier to use than the PP but it doesn't do everything the PP does. the PP shoots faster and melees faster, but requires more skill since you need to pump it like a madman. but get good at it and you can dominate.

of course your first priority is getting good with the pistol, obviously

but one of my favorite gametypes was FFA slayer on prisoner b/c i could run around the ground floor just dominating with PP and nades.

the best practice to see if you're good with the PP is to circle a ghost or some stationary object shooting the same spot as fast as you can. if you can circle, pump, and aim all at the same time, then move on and try the same drill with a friend who is moving. that gets you good at leading the bolts so they actually land as hits. get good and you will never touch the AR again, because you'll either be using pistol, PP, or a power weapon like snipe or rocket.

  • 08.08.2007 6:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: xdwightschrutex
1. the PP does slow down your enemies too
Does it kill people within nine shots?

Posted by: xdwightschrutex
2. you clearly don't know what undermined means
I believe I might have made a typo--I meant under mind. Perhaps not an actual term, but I mean that people don't consider it that much, as it's over looked.

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3. and i dont care if you doubt what i know is true ;) just means i know more than you
Hahahaha, and I thought I was the arrogant bastard.

  • 08.08.2007 7:42 PM PDT
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Stop it with the PR and PP war. Were talking about the AR!

  • 08.08.2007 11:14 PM PDT

Fear the Wafflepan

1.the assult rifle does kinda suck.
2.they're making it beter in h3
3.the pp rocks! it can destroy a ghost in one hit if you hit the fuel tank (works in h2 also).

  • 08.09.2007 9:33 AM PDT

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Posted by: Sporefrizzle
Posted by: xdwightschrutex
no truly good players use the assault rifle on the competitive level

there is ALWAYS a better option in your other hand (pistol or PP)

Good players use the AR all the time. 99% of the time it's better to have an AR+pistol than a PP+pistol. Why? The AR has a better melee and its better for finishing off people with no shields. The PP is only good for taking out someones OS and that's really only for Dammy, other than that there is no use for it. The PR and shotty are better than the AR but you don't spawn with them so the AR still gets used.

"the AR has a better melee" - debatable, PP has fastest melee

"its better for finishing off people with no shields" - why aren't you using your pistol for that? one shot kill better than spray and pray

"the PP is only good for taking out someones OS" - not really, it's a pretty good all around gun once you get good at accurately pumping it fast. not many people realize how strong it really is because they're not good with it

"the PR and shotty are better than the AR" - and the PP is better than both of those. the PP does everything the PR does and more. you can shoot is faster OR charge it up to take out OS. you may argue that shotty is better than PP, but if you have shotty and i have PP, i can pump it and stick you in place while i back up out of your range.


It sounds to me like you're using the PP at a way further range than it really should be used at. The pistol, sniper and rocket are the only weapons you should use at ranges longer than like 10 yards.

  • 08.09.2007 12:27 PM PDT
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i love the assult rifle... how can you dis the assult rifle

  • 08.09.2007 2:18 PM PDT

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