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Subject: Seriously. Why do people hate the Assault Rifle?
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exactly, people say the BR sucks but that is just because they suck with it.
and for those of you who dont like it, dont buy halo 3 kus its on there.

[Edited on 08.09.2007 2:23 PM PDT]

  • 08.09.2007 2:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: jim8thecat
exactly, people say the BR sucks but that is just because they suck with it.
and for those of you who dont like it, dont buy halo 3 kus its on there.
...When the Hell did anybody mention the battle rifle?

  • 08.09.2007 2:29 PM PDT
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AR is probably the least useful gun in multiplayer outside of the needler. Even the plasma pistol is better if you can shoot it fast enough. The only time i ever actually use it is when i run out of ammo on my main weapon during a firefight. Oh well, it does what a secondary weapon is supposed to do: just backup the main weapon if the situation gets bad.

  • 08.09.2007 3:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sporefrizzle
It sounds to me like you're using the PP at a way further range than it really should be used at. The pistol, sniper and rocket are the only weapons you should use at ranges longer than like 10 yards.
ive already said that the pistol sniper and rocket are better. i'm comparing strictly the PP and AR, and saying that regardless of range, i'd pick the PP in any situation over the AR

  • 08.14.2007 11:36 AM PDT
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nah coz the pistol is good at mid range the AR takes th cake at close range
with a pistol vs AR in close range the player with ther AR can just jump around and hose the pistol player with bullets and kill him reasonably quickly
the pistol is only good if u have clear shots at the opponents head.

  • 08.14.2007 1:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: I_Am_Death
nah coz the pistol is good at mid range the AR takes th cake at close range
with a pistol vs AR in close range the player with ther AR can just jump around and hose the pistol player with bullets and kill him reasonably quickly
the pistol is only good if u have clear shots at the opponents head.
i dont care how well you move or jump i will kill you at any range with the pistol.

zoom is not important, if you're close enough to even touch me with your spray-n-pray AR then you're close enough that i dont need a scope

  • 08.14.2007 1:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: Victory is mine
the pistol is okay but it could be better.


What the hell are you talking about? The pistol was way too good already, why the hell do you want it better?

  • 08.17.2007 3:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: xdwightschrutex
i dont care how well you move or jump i will kill you at any range with the pistol.

zoom is not important, if you're close enough to even touch me with your spray-n-pray AR then you're close enough that i dont need a scope
You don't care that he can take you down with five bullets and a running melee?

  • 08.17.2007 5:05 AM PDT
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Posted by: Master Kim
You don't care that he can take you down with five bullets and a running melee?
my box is broken right now so i cant check that that is actually a kill.

if it is, 3 shots from a pistol is still faster (think about it: POP POP POP vs. 12345 whack)

and his depends on every single AR shot landing as a hit, which is a complete toss up due to its inaccuracy.

"but if he knows how to pulse then it's more accurate and every shot will land" <---------thus giving me even more time to get in my 3 headshots

i understand this makes me sound like a huge nerd but i dont care:i have played so much CE it's sick; system link parties, xbox connect, etc and i can't stress how rare it is i get killed by the AR. it only happens when i am fighting someone else, get very weak, and someone just sprays me down with the AR to finish me off (which they could have done faster with one shot from a pistol but they cant aim)

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Posted by: xdwightschrutex
i understand this makes me sound like a huge nerd but i dont care:i have played so much CE it's sick; system link parties, xbox connect, etc and i can't stress how rare it is i get killed by the AR. it only happens when i am fighting someone else, get very weak, and someone just sprays me down with the AR to finish me off (which they could have done faster with one shot from a pistol but they cant aim)
That's because you're playing against noobs. Play competitively, especially in Halo PC, and you'll realize how potent the assault rifle is. You just need to be skilled with it. In fact, I'm willing to say it's the third weapon in the game that takes the most skill, next to the sniper and the pistol.

  • 08.17.2007 7:40 AM PDT

"Perfect Practice makes Perfect." From what I've seen, people don't want to learn how to use new weapons, instead sticking to the ones they know. I use the MA5B as much as I can, I can probably use it just as well as the pistol (more shots to kill, but hey, there's gotta be a trade). As for what I don't like about it, is the spread. If it's more than the distance from the Teleporter on Blue base to the Oversheild / Active Camo in the middle of the map, I'll use a different weapon; that said, distances that are much closer than that, I'd want to use the Shotty or the Plasma Rifle, as the latter has a stun capability.

So overall, I think it's much better for medium ranges, or base defense, if you can see the attackers comeing.

-Spazzy Spartan-

  • 08.17.2007 9:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: Master Kim
That's because you're playing against noobs. Play competitively, especially in Halo PC, and you'll realize how potent the assault rifle is. You just need to be skilled with it. In fact, I'm willing to say it's the third weapon in the game that takes the most skill, next to the sniper and the pistol.
i dont play against n-words (watch your language); i used to play competitively in tournaments before i went to college.

this isn't the HaloPC forum so that really doesn't apply here. but the AR feels more potent especially in online play because host connection advantage makes it much more difficult for non-hosts to use plasma weapons and pistols effectively. there's always just a little bit of lag that makes it harder to land shots, so the spray-n-pray AR feels more powerful than it actually is.

i am not saying that the AR doesn't take skill to use. it does take skill to learn how to pulse it well, aim it, when to melee, and so on

all i'm saying is that once you become very skilled in using every gun, you realize that most every gun trumps the AR regardless of what situation you're in.



[Edited on 08.17.2007 11:15 AM PDT]

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Posted by: xdwightschrutex
i dont play against n-words (watch your language)
Now, I'm not one to disrespect the rules and the code of conduct here at Bungie.net, especially the word of Recon Number 54, but I've said noob countless number of times in Bungie.net, and I only got blacklisted once and that surely wasn't for using the word noob.
Posted by: xdwightschrutex
this isn't the HaloPC forum so that really doesn't apply here.
Yes, it does. Halo's multiplayer on the PC is virtually the same except that it's played with a mouse and keyboard and one must learn how to lead.
Posted by: xdwightschrutex
but the AR feels more potent especially in online play because host connection advantage makes it much more difficult for non-hosts to use plasma weapons and pistols effectively. there's always just a little bit of lag that makes it harder to land shots, so the spray-n-pray AR feels more powerful than it actually is.
Really? That's not why it appears to be powerful.
Posted by: xdwightschrutex
all i'm saying is that once you become very skilled in using every gun, you realize that most every gun trumps the AR regardless of what situation you're in.
I'm not saying that the assault rifle is a better weapon than the pistol or a sniper rifle, I'm just saying it still gives people a fighting chance. Yeah, if two players of equal skill go at each other at, while one has a shotgun and the other has an assault rifle, then the player with the shotgun is probably going to win. I'm just saying, the assault rifle is not to be underestimated.

  • 08.17.2007 3:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: xdwightschrutex
Posted by: Master Kim
That's because you're playing against noobs. Play competitively, especially in Halo PC, and you'll realize how potent the assault rifle is. You just need to be skilled with it. In fact, I'm willing to say it's the third weapon in the game that takes the most skill, next to the sniper and the pistol.
i dont play against n-words (watch your language); i used to play competitively in tournaments before i went to college.

this isn't the HaloPC forum so that really doesn't apply here. but the AR feels more potent especially in online play because host connection advantage makes it much more difficult for non-hosts to use plasma weapons and pistols effectively. there's always just a little bit of lag that makes it harder to land shots, so the spray-n-pray AR feels more powerful than it actually is.

i am not saying that the AR doesn't take skill to use. it does take skill to learn how to pulse it well, aim it, when to melee, and so on

all i'm saying is that once you become very skilled in using every gun, you realize that most every gun trumps the AR regardless of what situation you're in.



Oh, but taking a roomful of enemies down with three clips of an AR is so much more satisfying than two clips of a pistol.

  • 08.17.2007 3:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: TheLightOfSpeed
Oh, but taking a roomful of enemies down with three clips of an AR is so much more satisfying than two clips of a pistol.
That's a matter of opinion, and I think that using a pistol is more satisfying. :)

  • 08.17.2007 3:31 PM PDT
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Assault Rifle is great, but I prefer the Plasma Rifle, Plasma Pistol ties with it an Needler is just below it.

  • 08.18.2007 12:03 AM PDT
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I'm going to take the pistol and beat a dead horse with it. Just like everyone else in this thread.

  • 08.18.2007 1:10 PM PDT
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i tried using the AR on the last part of "two betrayals" on legendary tonight........where you are out in the ice field fighting flood and elites right before you hop in a banshee to finish off the level

anyways it was pretty much impossible: *****if****** i managed to take out all the flood (they have rockets and shotties) then i was left to take on two wraiths and a whole buttload of covies including about 10 elites, 6 jackals, 20 or so grunts, and 2 hunters.

to actually beat it:

i used rockets on the wraiths because they were never intended to be killed by AR.

i used snipes on the hunters

and the rest i tried to kill with AR + grenades....but it didnt work because no matter how well i pulsed the elites would just hide, and there were hordes of them so i couldnt go in close to finish the job and i ran out of grenades after a while.

the AR is for children who play easy or normal, or for killing grunts on heroic

  • 08.18.2007 9:55 PM PDT
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aka lino4

Most of the PC issues posted here are the result of PEBKAC.

PP+AR is how you beat T&R on Legendary.

  • 08.19.2007 3:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: vincent5
PP+AR is how you beat T&R on Legendary.
what?!?!?!

if you wanna die and take forever, then yes

there is sniper ammo throughout the level, always carry sniper and pistol.

if you dont like sniper for close combat, PP and pistol

all AR is good for is grunts!

  • 08.19.2007 3:41 PM PDT
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I seriously needed to update my signature. I'll never forget it, though.

Posted by: xdwightschrutex
Posted by: vincent5
PP+AR is how you beat T&R on Legendary.
what?!?!?!

if you wanna die and take forever, then yes

there is sniper ammo throughout the level, always carry sniper and pistol.

if you dont like sniper for close combat, PP and pistol

all AR is good for is grunts!
There is no pistol on Truth and Reconciliation...

  • 08.20.2007 4:57 AM PDT
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The thing with the AR is that it is just sooooooooooo average. It doesn´t shine in any situation. It´s a good backup weapon, but that is all it is.A backup weapon. The only thing it´s good at is taking down Flood, but the Shotgun is far better.

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  • 08.20.2007 6:15 AM PDT
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people hate the assult rifle? since when...???when bungie anounced the AR is back for halo 3 everyone rejoiced...but to answer your question, if they do hate it its probs cos the magnum is wickedly powerful in halo 1 with a scope too :D

  • 08.20.2007 10:41 AM PDT
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Posted by: SpartanElite117
There is no pistol on Truth and Reconciliation...
oh yeah, i dont know what i was thinking.

PP+sniper then. sweet combo

  • 08.20.2007 3:16 PM PDT
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I think it became obsolete when the Battle Rifle was introduced and now people hate it because it doesn't have a scope

  • 08.20.2007 8:15 PM PDT

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