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Subject: Bungie hates europe !!
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First of all its known that europe has the fastest intertet in the world. I have 7 MB upload wich is like 3 times the fastest connection in USA, and still bungie doenst give me host in ANY GAMES. They rather give an american with 200 kb upload host, then a really fast (no lagg) connection. Why is this ? Because bungie is american itself? This is just racism towards other countries. They should look at your connection, not if your american or not.

+ Americans have ntsc, in halo 1 this was a big advantage and in halo 2 it stil is.

Bungie grab yourself together and trie to make halo 3 the first bungie-game with a non american advantage...

And yes i know bad english but at least i can speak different languages :-)

[Edited on 08.09.2007 2:29 AM PDT]

  • 08.09.2007 2:29 AM PDT

The problem is the matchmaking system. It puts players from all over the place together. Because there are so many North Americans playing, generally a European player will be the only one in any given game. When there's two players in Europe in a game and six in North America, it is the fairest choice to choose a host in North America. However this situation shouldn't arise, that's where the problem is.

  • 08.09.2007 2:38 AM PDT
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mate you gotta loosen up... halo 2 live is just a game and you gotta learn to love it... plus you gotta learn to live with the lag... plus another thing i wanna say is the only reason you dont get host is because you probably only go in by yourself and because there is a majority of americans in the lobby, they have a much higher chance of getting host... not everyone needs a good server to play good! im an aussie and i get lag every match, but guess what? i learn to use it to my advantage and get over it!!!

  • 08.09.2007 2:39 AM PDT

It's not necessarily about playing good, it's about having fun. Some people just get frustrated by the delay and can't have a good time, you can't really blame them - each to their own.

  • 08.09.2007 2:49 AM PDT
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Posted by: GunKer
Bungie grab yourself together and trie to make halo 3 the first bungie-game with a non american advantage...

..Did you even play the beta? There was no advantage at all =/.

  • 08.09.2007 3:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: GunKer
Bungie grab yourself together and trie to make halo 3 the first bungie-game with a non american advantage...

..Did you even play the beta? There was no advantage at all =/.



Quite right, alot of the beta games were laggy on a hilarious scale, but there never seemed to be any particular host advantage to speak of..........well not that i noticed anyway. H3 mm will be so many times better than what we are experiencing in H2 right now, but maybe bungie are using H2 mm data to tweak the system before H3 ships - hence the, shall we say, erratic connection at the moment. By the way i play in europe too.

  • 08.09.2007 3:25 AM PDT

because mostly americans play halo 2 theres alot of them you meet up in one match, ussually mm chooses the person with the least average latency to each player so its fair to most the players, its nothing to do with bungie being in america, i live in england and im hardly host and all americans have slight advantage over me when an american has host. every time i get owned by the seemingly quicker reactions of host but its only because he has about a second head start all the time. i dont know how many times ive lost because of host alone

in the beta i noticed no host advantage whatsoever and there was hardly any lag other than when i was downloading tonnes of stuff to my computer, i found every part of the game easier because of this

  • 08.09.2007 4:03 AM PDT

Host advantage was definitely reduced in the Halo 3 beta. I noticed several occasions where me and the other guy killed each other at the same time! That never happens on halo 2 because one person is always ahead of the other.

  • 08.09.2007 4:25 AM PDT
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Ok you think that just because you don't get host that Bungie hates Europe? Get a clue dude. Oh and I can speak other languages too.

ussually mm chooses the person with the least average latency to each player so its fair to most the players


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  • 08.09.2007 5:25 AM PDT
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I' tempted to smack you upside the head, but I won't. I feel your pain, seeing as how you so rarely get host, as I do not myself. But I'm from the US, and I get stuck on bad hosts IN THE US. So the host system is just out of whack. Oh, and now that you mention it, there was no real halo 3 host advantage.

  • 08.09.2007 5:42 AM PDT
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What I thought was funny was when he said, "Bungie grab yourself together."

By the way, if you want to improve your english, instead of 'grab' use 'pull'

  • 08.09.2007 5:46 AM PDT

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Posted by: GunKer
Why is this ? Because bungie is american itself? This is just racism towards other countries.


Bungie is not a single symbiotic entity sir.

It is a company with a wealth of designers and programmers. I have no idea how many people work for Bungie but it is definately in the hundreds.

The company is indeed based in America but it is highly likely that among the hundreds of employees there are many who are not American there.

I doubt they are favourable to any specific country very much sir.

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  • 08.09.2007 6:00 AM PDT
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dude, you'd only comlain because you're getting lag

and if you're getting lag then your connection sucks cause i'm fine in the UK and we pay for 1mb (althiugh we normally get (1.5mb-2mb)

  • 08.09.2007 6:08 AM PDT

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dude, you'd only comlain because you're getting lag

and if you're getting lag then your connection sucks cause i'm fine in the UK and we pay for 1mb (althiugh we normally get (1.5mb-2mb)


I get lag every game I play. Not a yellow/red bar, but just laggy-stuff like kill-delay and beat-downs bearly work. And I've gor 20 mb/download and about 10
mb/upload. ( I think)

  • 08.09.2007 6:12 AM PDT
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whats your connection type and provider, and where do you live may i ask?

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for a signal from europe to get to the US it dosn't nessecarily have to go through sattelites. there are underwater cables aren't there

  • 08.09.2007 7:06 AM PDT
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Posted by: GunKer
Because bungie is american itself? This is just racism towards other countries.


Please, explain this to me? How is this racism? I mean seriously, you never once mentioned where you from and what race you are. I think it is more of proximity to microsoft, since Bungie does not have dedicated servers. HMMMMMM Furthermore, Bungie and Microsoft are American, but that has no bearing on who gets host. If seven users are running off of your host which could be 4000 miles away compared to 1 person running of another person's host who is 4000 miles away seems to be a better solution.

Posted by: GunKer
And yes i know bad english but at least i can speak different languages :-)


Well if you include idiot speak then yes you do!!!! That honestly has no bearing on if you have created a good post or not. There are tons of translating websites so that you can put your ideas in your native tongue "idiotians" and hit the translate button and then copy and paste into a post. :-)

  • 08.09.2007 7:29 AM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

Even if they are racist against other countries, so what? Just dont play the game. Its their game and its their system. If you dont like it, dont play. Youre no different than the ghetto rats in this country. Every time something dosent go your way, you scream "RACISM!". Well boo hoo hoo for you, cry me a freaking river.

  • 08.09.2007 7:47 AM PDT
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Your right, Bungie hates Europe, especially with all the Halo 3 announcements over there, Bungie just hates you guys, it must suck...

I lived in Ireland untill just recently, and I didn't have any lag problems.

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  • 08.09.2007 7:59 AM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

Bungie hates Europe, I hate Europe and now everyone else hates Europe because we have to listen to your constant whining. BTW do you guys have functioning sewers yet over there, or are you still throwing your waste out in the streets? (thats how the first plague got started ya know)

  • 08.09.2007 8:05 AM PDT
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No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

Posted by: GunKer
First of all its known that europe has the fastest intertet in the world. I have 7 MB upload wich is like 3 times the fastest connection in USA, and still bungie doenst give me host in ANY GAMES. They rather give an american with 200 kb upload host, then a really fast (no lagg) connection. Why is this ? Because bungie is american itself? This is just racism towards other countries. They should look at your connection, not if your american or not.

+ Americans have ntsc, in halo 1 this was a big advantage and in halo 2 it stil is.

Bungie grab yourself together and trie to make halo 3 the first bungie-game with a non american advantage...

And yes i know bad english but at least i can speak different languages :-)


Christ. Bungie doesn't give host to anyone, it is decided upon. If you have 7 out of 8 players in the U.K, than host will probably go to you. But when you're the only person across the ocean in a party, then it wouldn't be very smart to assign host to you, would it?

Learn the way the system works before you start criticizing Bungie for their actions, methods, and reasonings.

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  • 08.09.2007 8:28 AM PDT
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Halo 3 has "Match players with best connection" and "Match players with close skill range" options... I really, truely hope they add "Match players of least distance" one, too. Some kind, any kind, of regional filter...

  • 08.09.2007 8:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: Xiahou Dun
Bungie is not a single symbiotic entity sir.

Are you sure? I'm pretty sure thats what Bungie is...I know Frankie is anyway.

  • 08.09.2007 8:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: Xiahou Dun
Bungie is not a single symbiotic entity sir.

Are you sure? I'm pretty sure thats what Bungie is...I know Frankie is anyway.


So Frankie has something living in him to make him better? i.e. symbiotic

  • 08.09.2007 9:11 AM PDT

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