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Respected by yourself maybe, Look up the definition of the word ethics in a dictionary and study it. Then you might understand this discussion. Until then, you stay seated, eating twinkies and playing your game thinking everyone thinks your great. When you get to the real world we can talk again.

  • 08.10.2007 1:16 PM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

Twinkies are gross. Who cares about ethics? ITS A GAME not the United Nations peace summit. Keep crying bad kid, its getting funny to me.

  • 08.10.2007 1:18 PM PDT
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OoooOOO...It's a hot topic! SCHWeeet!!

  • 08.10.2007 1:20 PM PDT

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The young kids on here need someone to look up to, and the top guy on there list cheated. Is that too much for you two to get your heads around or what? You on the other hand are the ones defending him, who's the loser.

  • 08.10.2007 1:20 PM PDT
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OMGZ, Naded did not play Halo with Honor.

He must be a low-life loser with no ethics, because he arranged games with friends and gained three levels.

Fact is, he would have gotten that 50 anyway, he would have just had to wait for a few more hours.

Theres not even any proof that he cheated.

  • 08.10.2007 1:21 PM PDT

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Kid huh? I'm willing to bet I'm at least twice your age. "who cares about ethics" You will eventually, they teach that class in prison, you should sign up early so you get a good seat.

  • 08.10.2007 1:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: mongoliancluster
The young kids on here need someone to look up to, and the top guy on there list cheated. Is that too much for you two to get your heads around or what? You on the other hand are the ones defending him, who's the loser.


Where's proof that he cheated? Playing with the same people and having them quit is not proof of cheating, its proof that he played with the same people many times, and they quit every time.

Its like the Barry Bonds case. Sure, you may think he did it, and the COMPLETELY CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence may seem to almost assure he did it. but the pure fact is that there's no proof. So stop labeling until anything is proven.

If he simply arranged it to go in at the same time as the other team, and they deleveled, its not cheating.

  • 08.10.2007 1:24 PM PDT

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Same goes for O.J. Simpson right?

  • 08.10.2007 1:26 PM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

Boo Hoo -blam!- Hoo. Its not too much for me to get my head around, im just telling you that he didnt hurt anyone, he didnt break a record and he is and always will be better than anyone in this forum....including me. There is no reason to talk about it. Bungie wont do anything about it and even if they did ban him, he would have a new account and another 50 in a few days. Continually crying about it or telling Bungie to ban him isnt gonna change a thing. Just because people cheat dosent make them a "scrub". Its the "scrubs" in this forum who constantly whine and make excuses for why the get beaten all the time and cant get their rank up.


Here is what makes a good Halo player:

1. Weapon control
2. Aim
3. Instinct
4. Hand eye coordination
5. Reaction time
6. Overall knowledge of the game.

Naded has all of the above in vast abundance. If he was a level 1 he would still work you like a rented mule. Who really cares about that number next to his name? Most likely he was just bored and felt like doing it. Maybe he just wanted to piss some people off....either way, quit crying about it and stalk someone else.

  • 08.10.2007 1:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: mongoliancluster
Same goes for O.J. Simpson right?


OJ Simpson did it, there was actual proof to that. He just got off because he was a celebrity, but that's a different circumstance. The thing is, is that you have no proof that Naded cheated, so stop saying he did.

  • 08.10.2007 1:29 PM PDT

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In that previous post, did you not say that you were the one talking? Take your own advice.

  • 08.10.2007 1:30 PM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

Posted by: mongoliancluster
Kid huh? I'm willing to bet I'm at least twice your age. "who cares about ethics" You will eventually, they teach that class in prison, you should sign up early so you get a good seat.


Depends on how old you are, and I dont teach in prison. The only time I go to prison is when I drop off the people I arrest.

  • 08.10.2007 1:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: mongoliancluster
Same goes for O.J. Simpson right?


OJ Simpson did it, there was actual proof to that. He just got off because he was a celebrity, but that's a different circumstance. The thing is, is that you have no proof that Naded cheated, so stop saying he did.


Show me your proof that O.J did, and I will quit saying it, the prosecutor didn't have enough to convict.

  • 08.10.2007 1:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: mongoliancluster
Kid huh? I'm willing to bet I'm at least twice your age. "who cares about ethics" You will eventually, they teach that class in prison, you should sign up early so you get a good seat.


Depends on how old you are, and I dont teach in prison. The only time I go to prison is when I drop off the people I arrest.


Cheat at a game, cheat at life. what kind of cop do they call that.

  • 08.10.2007 1:34 PM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

Posted by: mongoliancluster
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: mongoliancluster
Same goes for O.J. Simpson right?


OJ Simpson did it, there was actual proof to that. He just got off because he was a celebrity, but that's a different circumstance. The thing is, is that you have no proof that Naded cheated, so stop saying he did.


Show me your proof that O.J did, and I will quit saying it, the prosecutor didn't have enough to convict.



Civil suit.

  • 08.10.2007 1:34 PM PDT

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Wrong, civil suit shows that he was responsible for what happened, not that he murdered anyone. Fine line in the law.

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Posted by: mongoliancluster
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: mongoliancluster
Same goes for O.J. Simpson right?


OJ Simpson did it, there was actual proof to that. He just got off because he was a celebrity, but that's a different circumstance. The thing is, is that you have no proof that Naded cheated, so stop saying he did.


Show me your proof that O.J did, and I will quit saying it, the prosecutor didn't have enough to convict.


Proving that OJ did it has no relevance here. It has no affect on proving whether or not Naded did cheat.

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Why the hell are you guys arguing about OJ Simpson...??

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Posted by: mongoliancluster
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Posted by: mongoliancluster
Kid huh? I'm willing to bet I'm at least twice your age. "who cares about ethics" You will eventually, they teach that class in prison, you should sign up early so you get a good seat.


Depends on how old you are, and I dont teach in prison. The only time I go to prison is when I drop off the people I arrest.


Cheat at a game, cheat at life. what kind of cop do they call that.


You're right, what you do playing Halo reflects on what you do in your life.........................oh wait, no, that's only if you take Halo too seriously.

  • 08.10.2007 1:40 PM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

This is completely off topic. naded may or may not have cheated, who gives a rats ass? You cant prove it because he just as easily could have been only getting matched with the same people who were coincidentally de ranking. I went from a 30 to a 37 once and didnt hardly play any games because I kept hitting the same derankers. This effect would be even more pronounced when youre at high levels.

  • 08.10.2007 1:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: FKxPandemic


You're right, what you do playing Halo reflects on what you do in your life.........................oh wait, no, that's only if you take Halo too seriously.


No, thats what happens, first you justify a little cheat and they get bigger and badder thoughout your life.

  • 08.10.2007 1:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: mongoliancluster
Posted by: FKxPandemic


You're right, what you do playing Halo reflects on what you do in your life.........................oh wait, no, that's only if you take Halo too seriously.


No, thats what happens, first you justify a little cheat and they get bigger and badder thoughout your life.


No, nothing I do in halo reflects the choices I make in life.

I realize that when I press the small button on my Xbox, I'm in a place where my actions have different consequences then they do in real life.

I shoot people in Halo2 and justify it, I'm not about to go shoot up my school.

  • 08.10.2007 1:54 PM PDT

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I don't take the game seriously at all, but I do believe that naded or strongside or any person who has a fan base, should try to set a good example. (IF) he did cheat, he has just taught all of his young fans that cheating is okay, as long as you get what you want, and that is my problem with it. Once you have children you will understand what I mean.

  • 08.10.2007 1:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: mongoliancluster
Posted by: FKxPandemic


You're right, what you do playing Halo reflects on what you do in your life.........................oh wait, no, that's only if you take Halo too seriously.


No, thats what happens, first you justify a little cheat and they get bigger and badder thoughout your life.


No, nothing I do in halo reflects the choices I make in life.

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I realize that when I press the small button on my Xbox, I'm in a place where my actions have different consequences then they do in real life.

I shoot people in Halo2 and justify it, I'm not about to go shoot up my school.


And that is a good thing, it shows that you are mentally stable and can handle it. If you look at the rash of school shootings and other violent crimes being committed by teenagers today, Not all of them are stable and they can justify their actions to themselves. Thats why kids need good role models, not people who cheat or gangsta rappers

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  • 08.10.2007 2:03 PM PDT
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First of all, I don't really care whether or not somebody circumvented the system in order to obtain an artificial rank in a fictitious online gaming arena. Maybe the group he was with were practicing a tactic and didn't want to kill each other a lot. Of course, my understanding is that arranged games don't affect rank or stats except for K/D. I think the original post based on that the games were ranked and that the odds of the same group of 8 players continually being matched up in MM are unlikely if only relying on the random player selection.

Kevin, apparently you are eluding that you are a LEO of some kind. If you are then you should be painfully aware that ethics and integrity are the only things that people have that can't be taken away, they can only be thrown away when people are dishonest. Integrity counts in EVERYTHING we put our efforts into, finding a shortcut, even one in an irrelevant gaming system, that circumvents the standard rules and practices IS unethical and points to a fundemental flaw in a persons moral fiber. Considering his alleged status in the gaming community and apparent reputation it would be wise of him to conduct himself in a way that brings class to his chosen field of expertise instead of trying to be above it.

While you may have a lot of respect for him and want to protect his reputation, "Me thinks thou dost protest too much".

  • 08.10.2007 2:08 PM PDT