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Posted by: johnd3d
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Just play team hardcore and quit complaining. You spawn with a BR in every match. Problem solved.
yes us halo players with the variety of matchmaking options will only play one playlist because of the starting weapon? A playlist with less than 10 maps, a playlist with repetitive gametypes, a playlist that may not be fun to most.

Team Hardcore isnt a fun playlits in my and most players opinon. The only reason we play it is to spawn with a BR, Team Skirmish and Team Slayer are better matchamking playlist but but are flawed because of the dual wields like the smg being the starting weapon in halo 2.


So you suggest that every playlist be switched to BR starts not even leaving those who like SMG starts a single playlist sir? Like you had yourself? Not to mention the amount of BR starts already riddled through other playlists. Sounds extremely selfish to me sir.

[Edited on 08.16.2007 5:49 PM PDT]

  • 08.16.2007 5:49 PM PDT
Subject: The BR must become the spawning weapon in halo 2 (with video explai...
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The BR would be an excellent starting weapon- BUT I smell a pistol from Halo 1. Halo 2 could have become Battle rifle Halo- if it wasn't for the maps excellent designs. Also, why not a Brute shot or plasma rifle as a starter (and lots of nades).? Sigh............... maybe you're right. The battle rifle is the king of starter weapons.

  • 08.17.2007 12:07 AM PDT
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I disagree completely. Spawing with the BR just makes every other weapon with the exception of maybe the rocket launcher useless. It destroys the balance of the game and removes need or desire to pick up any other weapons. I have not problem with it as a weapon, just as a starting weapon. I'll agree that spawning with an SMG in a BR battle is terrible, but there is another solution: the carbine.

I'm sure there have been a million threads about this already, so I apologize if I am beating a dead horse (and I probably am since Halo 3 hits in roughly a month), but I think the Covenant carbine is the perfect starting weapon. The SMG is useless at range, and the BR is too effective. The carbine splits the difference nicely. It allows for enough range and accuracy to be dangerous, but isn't overwhelmingly powerful like the BR. If BRs control the map, sure, you'd probably want one too, but spawning with the carbine, you at least have a chance to do some damage if you're good, or defend yourself until you can pick up your own rifle. It's strong enough that no one can take advantage of you, but weak enough and has a short enough clip that you can't dominate or take advantage of everyone else right off the bat. It creates BALANCE, something Halo 2 severely lacks.

  • 08.17.2007 12:10 AM PDT
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Three Reasons why this won't happen.

1) Halo 3 is 39 days away.

2) Play Team Hardcore.

3) Been asked a million times, Bungie has said no to those 1,000,000 times, and thus invented the Team Hardcore play list.

  • 08.17.2007 1:17 AM PDT
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John3d, you're bad, get over it. Stop trying to compensate your mediocrity with BR's. If you aren't good enough to win with smg starts then quit the game.

  • 08.18.2007 2:44 AM PDT
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i want br start too and this is because if you start with smg you almost always get cheap'd at respawn and if not its too easy too kill other people with smg even at mid range br needs some actual skill smg is point shoot run forward and press b when within range. br your dead unless you get headshots

<people whining about how head shots with br being hard to get play alot of team swat and go for one shot kills you will adapt quickly!!>

  • 08.18.2007 3:45 AM PDT
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Uh... name a weapon that was rendered useless by the pistol in Halo 1 that wasn't already useless.

  • 08.18.2007 1:52 PM PDT
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How can people compare the BR to the halo 1 pistol which was terrible unbalanced weapon the halo 1 pistol was...

1. The pistol had to much strenght for a pistol.

2. Why did it have a scope no one will ever know.

3. Had almost as much range as a sniper

Yeah forget that both have a 2x scope, takes 12 pulls of the trigger to empty a clip and 3 pulls vs 4 pulls of the trigger to kill. BR is rifle and the pistol was a pistol right so it couldn't possibly be compared because they look nothing like each other in appearance. [/sarcasm]

FYI the H1 pistol and the BR has nearly the same range and it has NOWHERE near the same range as a sniper rifle.

  • 08.18.2007 3:01 PM PDT
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Man, there might have been a purpose to a thread like this I don't know, a year ago when halo 3 wasn't a month away. Now you all just sound stupid, especially since you're taking this seriously.

Also all the people that suggest people advocate smg start because they're less skilled sound retarded as well, and you're simply looking for another avenue to flaunt your e-peen and taunt people in a video game that's close to death.

  • 08.19.2007 1:11 PM PDT
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haha good 1 its actually not hard to kill sum1 with a smg if u kno how 2 use them

  • 08.20.2007 8:47 PM PDT

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John3d, you're bad, get over it. Stop trying to compensate your mediocrity with BR's. If you aren't good enough to win with smg starts then quit the game.


Someone's missing the point. lols, maybe there's a reason why your a "sexy" elite.

  • 08.20.2007 9:00 PM PDT
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The carbine would be a more host oriented spawn weapon than the BR.

  • 08.21.2007 12:53 AM PDT
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You wouldn't have an arguments against BR becoming the weapon you spawn with if you read the first post. Everything is explained.

  • 08.21.2007 6:18 AM PDT
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I'm gonna be different and disagree in some ways. I do remember the SMG start days where people scrambled for a better gun. This is how it is in almost all games with a starting weapon, that is why you start with it. Then people started controlling maps by having the battle rifles, so the BR starts got implemented to balance the map controlling. So Bungie saw that the SMG start was kind of broken. Now though if you could see the weapon in post game carnage report, everyone's choice weapon would be BR or snipe. If everyone has that weapon, that is not balance, because of the huge amount of weapons that are useless now that were made to beat the SMG start. The game is fair now in that everyone is equal, but the weapons still aren't balanced, there is a difference. So now it's all messed up. The most important people agree with me, and that's Bungie. Bring in the assault rifle, Bungie's reply that they did screw up, and now they are fixing it.

  • 08.21.2007 6:55 AM PDT
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Thank the lord somebody finally realized whats going on , I hate when i have to go almost an entire game with an SMG , Changed the gameplay wayy to much , Instead of focusing on the situation at hand in a game i have to scramble for a BR or a carbine . Good thing they fixed this in H3 , playing the beta i was much happier with the AR spawn instead of the SMG , Good job bungie , you learn from your mistakes.


And to adress spawn killing, BR spawn doesnt change the fact that you will get spawn killed , its just going to happen in ANY FPS .

  • 08.21.2007 7:58 AM PDT
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[/quote]can it get any longer?.......no it cant

  • 08.21.2007 3:38 PM PDT