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  • 08.11.2007 12:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: SPARTAN 307
The whole BXR, Double Shot, and Quad Shot. Ya know, the people who try to imitate professional players by cheating on Xbox Live. Bungie might not call it cheating, but using glitches on Xbox Live is a bannable offense. It is event listed as cheating threw Reporting a Player. So don't post trying to tell me that it's not cheating.

If you use it then you are only showing other players that you CANNOT beatdown or win in a fair Battle Rifle fight. That the only way you win is by exploiting game glitches. The same with super-bouncing.

And i know MLG tournaments allow it. But MLG is NOT Xbox Live. It can and should get you banned.


You're right, all people that don't glitch are better than me, I can only kill them with glitches. LAWL.

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I'll gladly play you 1v1 twice, once without glitching, and once with, to prove that it really makes no difference.

[Edited on 08.11.2007 1:06 PM PDT]

  • 08.11.2007 1:04 PM PDT
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I disagree, for one any of these "pros" that use these "cheats" would beat most anyone NOT using these "cheats". Second, the noob combo is anoying but its in the game and using it is not cheating, same goes for these "cheats". Using a game gini or w/e would be cheating but this is all stuff that is in the game and ANYONE can do. Stop complaining and deal with it because you know it wont change. Learn to beat it or learn to use it, stop gripeing about it.

  • 08.11.2007 1:05 PM PDT

One of my Halo 3 montages.

it IS cheating

  • 08.11.2007 1:11 PM PDT
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you mean Isn't, dont worry your excused.

  • 08.11.2007 1:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: ClassifiedBlind
it IS cheating


Not all the time.

It isn't cheating in customs, and in other situations.


"2. Anytime you see someone cheating, you should leave feedback on them, but it is up to you whether to do so. You define whether an action is cheating - you can define the above actions as normal, or be hardcore and define all of them as cheating. Since you're the one reporting the cheater, you get to be the ultimate arbiter of if cheating is occuring."

That's a quote from Achronos, simply stating that Bungie says its cheating, but WHAT I THINK, is just as important.

The people actually playing the game, decide whether its cheating or not, not Bungie.

So if I glitch in a game, and no one had a problem with it, and I get NO feedback, I did not cheat, because no one in that game felt I cheated. AND THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS.

So sure, its cheating in customs games where YOU are the party leader, or in MM games where you're playing, but its not always cheating, and I used a quote form a BNet overlord to come to that conclusion.

  • 08.11.2007 1:18 PM PDT

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i'm not talking about customs. of course it's not cheating in customs unless the rules by the party leader specifically says so. but in MM it IS considered cheating, even by bungie. i guarantee the button glitches aren't in the halo booklet that comes with the game.

  • 08.11.2007 1:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: ClassifiedBlind
i'm not talking about customs. of course it's not cheating in customs unless the rules by the party leader specifically says so. but in MM it IS considered cheating, even by bungie. i guarantee the button glitches aren't in the halo booklet that comes with the game.

Neither is the n00b combo, but you don't complain about that do you?

  • 08.11.2007 1:44 PM PDT

its only cheating if its having an unfair advantage over the other team if you think someone is going to bxr you you can avoid it with a simple crouch mele then jump away get a headshot with any weapon and boom the person who thought he was gonna own you with a bxr just got owned

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Posted by: SPARTAN 307
The whole BXR, Double Shot, and Quad Shot. Ya know, the people who try to imitate professional players by cheating on Xbox Live. Bungie might not call it cheating, but using glitches on Xbox Live is a bannable offense. It is event listed as cheating threw Reporting a Player. So don't post trying to tell me that it's not cheating.

If you use it then you are only showing other players that you CANNOT beatdown or win in a fair Battle Rifle fight. That the only way you win is by exploiting game glitches. The same with super-bouncing.

And i know MLG tournaments allow it. But MLG is NOT Xbox Live. It can and should get you banned.

maybe you should play some snipers its the only gametype thats fair with weapon control

BTW we dont try to imitate professional players we need to do it to win because everybody does it

  • 08.11.2007 2:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: ClassifiedBlind
i'm not talking about customs. of course it's not cheating in customs unless the rules by the party leader specifically says so. but in MM it IS considered cheating, even by bungie. i guarantee the button glitches aren't in the halo booklet that comes with the game.

Neither is the n00b combo, but you don't complain about that do you?

Haha wow... The combo isnt a glitch though... so its totaly different

  • 08.11.2007 2:26 PM PDT
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lol just cause a player uses bxr and all that doesnt he or she is a nub and they suck and cant win in fair fight. ppl use it to quicken the pace of the game instead of, whack!! 1 apple 2 apple 3 apple " you're now permitted for a another whack against opponent i did ur m07h3r117" pros will still own peeps even without the glitches

  • 08.11.2007 2:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: SPARTAN 307
The whole BXR, Double Shot, and Quad Shot. Ya know, the people who try to imitate professional players by cheating on Xbox Live. Bungie might not call it cheating, but using glitches on Xbox Live is a bannable offense. It is event listed as cheating threw Reporting a Player. So don't post trying to tell me that it's not cheating.

If you use it then you are only showing other players that you CANNOT beatdown or win in a fair Battle Rifle fight. That the only way you win is by exploiting game glitches. The same with super-bouncing.

And i know MLG tournaments allow it. But MLG is NOT Xbox Live. It can and should get you banned.


Damn! I was lurking on ebay, when I found that the cheaters even have their special controllers:
Link

Is there a way to report them? if so, who do I report it to? Bungie or eBay?

  • 08.11.2007 3:02 PM PDT
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huh? those are modded xbox controls..dang you report those to bungie or xbox company themselves

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  • 08.11.2007 3:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: ClassifiedBlind
i'm not talking about customs. of course it's not cheating in customs unless the rules by the party leader specifically says so. but in MM it IS considered cheating, even by bungie. i guarantee the button glitches aren't in the halo booklet that comes with the game.

Neither is the n00b combo, but you don't complain about that do you?

Haha wow... The combo isnt a glitch though... so its totaly different


exactly. i hate how people say, 'it's in the game, so learn how to use it, it's not cheating'. i shouldn't have to sit in a custom game and practice glitches in the game to keep up with everybody. it wasn't put in the game intentionally for gamers to use in matchmaking, therefore i choose not to use it. it's cheap. i don't care if everyone can use it or not, i shouldn't have to learn a glitch to play.

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  • 08.11.2007 4:05 PM PDT

If you get BxR'ed once then its ok you understand they know how to do it and do it well. If its done to you several times then its your fault for charging them. If someone runs at you without shooting you, you should know what they are doing and either crouch or get out of the way.

  • 08.11.2007 4:05 PM PDT
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Quick reloading (YY) is also a glitch because it gives me a split second advantage by cutting the reload animation short.

Wah.

  • 08.11.2007 4:12 PM PDT
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i know how it feals man, i hate gettin double,quaded,BXR'd as much as any1, the thing is its part of the game, it can we easily avoided by using cover and things like that, or may-b insted of crying on forums you could go learn it yourself, and BTW superbouncing is not aloud in MLG;), just thought ide clear that up

  • 08.11.2007 4:20 PM PDT

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i could care less. i've never made a thread about it or complain, i'm just stating my opinion. people are gonna use those glitches regardless, i just play the way i play and let people play the way they play. but i just think it's lame when people say it's not cheap or cheating just because mlg uses it and tell me that i need to learn it. i've done pretty well without it so far.

  • 08.11.2007 4:26 PM PDT

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Complain about something that is actually troublesome in MM, like standbying/bridging maybe? You can not fight back much against that. BXRs do not determine the outcome of a game, but maybe just a kill (this excludes the winning kill). Also, if you get BXRed once, you should have somewhat of a rational mind and not go so near the individual or try another tactic. Remember this too, it is only cheating in MM. Bridging/modding/standbing is not allowed at ALL on LIVE.

  • 08.11.2007 4:36 PM PDT
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if mlg allows it then u should be able to practice it on live dumbass

  • 08.11.2007 4:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sinsitahh
if mlg allows it then u should be able to practice it on live dumbass


No. Stop failing.

  • 08.11.2007 4:39 PM PDT

John 3:16

Posted by: SPARTAN 307
The whole BXR, Double Shot, and Quad Shot. Ya know, the people who try to imitate professional players by cheating on Xbox Live. Bungie might not call it cheating, but using glitches on Xbox Live is a bannable offense. It is event listed as cheating threw Reporting a Player. So don't post trying to tell me that it's not cheating.

If you use it then you are only showing other players that you CANNOT beatdown or win in a fair Battle Rifle fight. That the only way you win is by exploiting game glitches. The same with super-bouncing.

And i know MLG tournaments allow it. But MLG is NOT Xbox Live. It can and should get you banned.


It's so easy to be legitimate, that every one can be pro.

I'd lock this if I was a mod, and I foresee a flame battle going on.
Sorry bro, wrong place to post a complaint.

[Edited on 08.11.2007 4:47 PM PDT]

  • 08.11.2007 4:46 PM PDT

Greatest of all time

All button glitching conversations go on for hours without either side caving in and only ends when a mod locks it or one side signs off.

So to end all future arguments.

1. They do take skill
2. They are considered cheating by Bungie but they care about your opinion as well (cues FKxPandemic to post link to Achrono's post)
3. Most people who do them are just as good without them.
4. Unfortunately, it does add more depth to the game, as much as i despise the fact

  • 08.11.2007 4:54 PM PDT

John 3:16

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1. They do take skill
2. They are considered cheating by Bungie but they care about your opinion as well (cues FKxPandemic to post link to Achrono's post)
3. Most people who do them are just as good without them.
4. Unfortunately, it does add more depth to the game, as much as i despise the fact[/quote]


I second that. Hopefully people will think of it rationally rather than emotionally.

  • 08.11.2007 5:00 PM PDT

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