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Subject: Plasma Pistol

Make a custom game and put on overshields with extra shields, so now you have 3 shields, the plasma pistol gets rid of all 3 shields with a single charged shot.

The following is other examples of weapons to do the same amount of damage:

Rocket Launcher = 3 Rockets
Gauss Hog = 2 Shots
Tank = 2 Shots

So how is it that the Plasma Pistol is stronger than the Tank? It's not very realistic.

My question is... if the Plasma Pistol is that strong, why isn't the Magnum similar in strength? Because isn't the Magnum suppose to be the human version of the Plasma Pistol?

[Edited on 08.13.2007 11:06 AM PDT]

  • 08.12.2007 11:55 PM PDT
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  • 08.12.2007 11:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: Stryker125
Make a custom game and put on overshields with extra shields, so now you have 3 shields, the plasma pistol gets rid of all 3 shields with a single charged shot.

The following is other examples of weapons to do the same amount of damage:

Rocket Launcher = 3 Rockets
Gauss Hog = 2 Shots
Tank = 2 Shots

So how is it that the Plasma Pistol is stronger than the Tank? It's not very realistic.

My question is... if the Plasma Pistol is that strong, why isn't the Magnum similar in strength? Because isn't the Magnum suppose to be the human version of the Plasma Pistol?


I'm sorry the weapon that shoots plasma into a futuristic supersoldier isn't real enaugh for you.
Incase you didn't know, the plasma pistol overheats the sheild generator , so no matter how many sheilds you have, it'll take em all out.
Also, the pistol is NOT the counterpart to the plasma pistol.

  • 08.13.2007 12:07 AM PDT

RIP Halo 2.

You're critiquing the effects of alien weapons as being unrealistic rather than the actual existence of a super-sophisticated alien race and a series of ring worlds. Wow.

  • 08.13.2007 12:18 AM PDT
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How many threads did you make about this? This one here is an exact duplicate of one i saw in the optimatch forums, and you even mentioned it in a second thread just in that forum.

  • 08.13.2007 12:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: Stryker125
Make a custom game and put on overshields with extra shields, so now you have 3 shields, the plasma pistol gets rid of all 3 shields with a single charged shot.

The following is other examples of weapons to do the same amount of damage:

Rocket Launcher = 3 Rockets
Gauss Hog = 2 Shots
Tank = 2 Shots

So how is it that the Plasma Pistol is stronger than the Tank? It's not very realistic.

My question is... if the Plasma Pistol is that strong, why isn't the Magnum similar in strength? Because isn't the Magnum suppose to be the human version of the Plasma Pistol?
sorry but the plasma pistol frys the shield genorator causing it to overheat. and the magnum cannot take shields down but is a good combination with a pp

  • 08.13.2007 1:33 AM PDT
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Get over it man.
Its not like they are undodgable, jesus stop your whining, hide behind something and fire, really just think it out i would give a better statement but i am tired...

  • 08.13.2007 2:05 AM PDT
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I agree with topic creator, and I also find the melee unrealistic as well. With any weapon if you melee someone from behind they will immediately die. So you're saying 3 shots with the rockets, 2 gauss hog shots, and 2 tank shots are as strong as a single punch?!! Bungie next time you make a sci fi game with a cyborg that can flip tanks and jump several feet into the air, you should atleast make it realistic!

  • 08.13.2007 3:07 AM PDT

The overshield isn't designed to be realistic, it is designed to be one of few defences against sword/rockets and so on. It is designed for the gameplay aspect rather than realism.

The plasma pistol taking off the overshield is one of a series of "unrealistic" features that balances halo 2's play, and it's still not very balanced but that will change for halo 3.

If the plasma pistol didn't take off the overshield, you'd probably be complaining that the game is just a rave for the overshield. You're like one of those people that says grand theft auto 3 isn't realistic because you can't swim. I pity people who play games for realism, I play them for fun.

  • 08.13.2007 4:03 AM PDT
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Though I may not agree with the TC, one thing I find to be a bit off. You are a super soldier who is also a Cyborg that can lift a tank and a flag slows you down?
Come on now, I know you were trying to make things more balanced (I Think), but a metal pole with a cloth attached slows down a half-a-ton cyborg.

  • 08.13.2007 4:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: Viral Strain
Though I may not agree with the TC, one thing I find to be a bit off. You are a super soldier who is also a Cyborg that can lift a tank and a flag slows you down?
Come on now, I know you were trying to make things more balanced (I Think), but a metal pole with a cloth attached slows down a half-a-ton cyborg.
Yes it is for balancing issues. You can turn off that feature in custom games, and I'm pretty sure you can even make it so the flag carrier can drive.

The reason you slow down in matchmaking is because if the flag carrier were to run as fast as everyone else in the game it would be too easy to escape with the flag.

No it is not realistic, but it makes the game more balanced, fair and fun.

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  • 08.13.2007 4:15 AM PDT

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The entire game thrives on realism as the hallmark of it's authenticity. sir

Absolutely everything in it has been created to be 100% true to life or as close as we can possibly get.

I agree with this thread the plasma pistol is too unrealistic and should be changed.

  • 08.13.2007 4:32 AM PDT
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i also hate when things are not realistic...now i'm gonna jump on my unicorn and ride to work.

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  • 08.13.2007 4:34 AM PDT

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Wow, TC just shut up. The game is based on unrealistic events and was made for fun. If you want to play something realistic play Rainbow 6 or Call of Duty. If you don't like having the Plasma Pistol used against you, grab it before the other team or your opponent grabs it. Its part of the game, get over it.

  • 08.13.2007 6:03 AM PDT
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Because, you know, alien weapons that shoot out green bolts of energy are totally realistic.

Plus, in the Halo world, noobers are energy weapons meant at taking down shields. That's all it's for. The other weapons you listed take down the shields from pure damage. Think of the noober as an EMP.

  • 08.13.2007 6:28 AM PDT

You can run. But you will only die tired.

Is this guy serious? I want to register a complaint that the Energy Sword isn't realistic.

  • 08.13.2007 7:44 AM PDT
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I would like to lodge a complaint that the sniper is unrealistic. I can't kill anyone with it. [jk]

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  • 08.13.2007 7:45 AM PDT

Some of you understand what I'm trying to say, some of you obviously don't. My point is, a single charged shot from the Plasma Pistol can take away all 3 shields, then all you have to do is shoot them with the Battle Rifle once and they're dead. Point being, the Plasma Pistol is way too strong... "but it's designed to take down shields"... yeah I know it is. But it shouldn't be able to take down all 3 shields with a single charged shot. "But you can't kill someone with a charged Plasma Pistol"... yeah I know. My point is, people runaround and all they can do, is use the noob combo (Plasma Pistol/Battle Rifle). That's the only way some people can get kills, because if you get hit with a charged Plasma Pistol, there's not much you can do in your defense. Because the thing practilly locks on to you to an extent, and if you're out in the open with no cover. You're pretty much defenseless because there's not much you can do against someone running around with a noob combo on a map with no cover. Do you understand me now, the Plasma Pistol can drain shields, but just make it so it's not capable of draining an overshield with extra shields... it's too unbalanced.

  • 08.13.2007 9:31 AM PDT
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Doesn't matter if it's overpowered. You could argue that anything is overpowered or cheap. Or underpowered and needs an upgrade. Either way, it doesn't matter. Just learn to adapt to it. Like a guy in another thread said, If a guy is running around with PP/BR combo, then it's not him being the noob, it's YOU if you can't take him out.

  • 08.13.2007 9:36 AM PDT

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i understand what he's saying. i think it should just take off the overshield and leave the normal shield. what's the point of getting the overshield on beaver creek then? i don't think it's cheap using the pp/br combo, but i just don't think the plasma pistol should take off both either. just don't say it's not realistic, that's where you lost everyone, even though some of the people responding were like 'you're lame, this isn't a realistic game! but the plasma pistol is a shield draining weapon that came from the ancient covenant priests'.

[Edited on 08.13.2007 9:49 AM PDT]

  • 08.13.2007 9:44 AM PDT
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Posted by: Stryker125
Some of you understand what I'm trying to say, some of you obviously don't. My point is, a single charged shot from the Plasma Pistol can take away all 3 shields, then all you have to do is shoot them with the Battle Rifle once and they're dead. Point being, the Plasma Pistol is way too strong... "but it's designed to take down shields"... yeah I know it is. But it shouldn't be able to take down all 3 shields with a single charged shot. "But you can't kill someone with a charged Plasma Pistol"... yeah I know. My point is, people runaround and all they can do, is use the noob combo (Plasma Pistol/Battle Rifle). That's the only way some people can get kills, because if you get hit with a charged Plasma Pistol, there's not much you can do in your defense. Because the thing practilly locks on to you to an extent, and if you're out in the open with no cover. You're pretty much defenseless because there's not much you can do against someone running around with a noob combo on a map with no cover. Do you understand me now, the Plasma Pistol can drain shields, but just make it so it's not capable of draining an overshield with extra shields... it's too unbalanced.


Its essentially an EMP. It fries the shield generator. How is it unrealistic that making the shield generator break, makes the shield go down?

The PP is not too strong. Sure, take down hat guys shields, then try to kill him with the PP. Have you seen how fast the Plasma Rifle takes down an Overshield? Well lets see, I think it takes 3 PR shots to take down one shield, so that would be 9 to take down a full overshield. Add that to dual wielding an SMG. OH NO, the SMG/PR combo is too powerful.

Its realistic, because the energy weapons take down shields extremely fast, thats the point of them, but they aren't good for killing, because they have almost no effect on a shieldless opponent.

  • 08.13.2007 9:44 AM PDT
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I agree with you. If your battling a group of religious aliens, jumping 6 feet in the air, driving alien tanks, at least make it realistic.

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Posted by: Wrecktified
I agree with you. If your battling a group of religious aliens, jumping 6 feet in the air, driving alien tanks, at least make it realistic.


Need you forget while ripping holes to enter a new dimension allowing faster than light travel?

  • 08.13.2007 9:52 AM PDT
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you are saying that a weapon 500 years from now is unreal. ignoring the fact that it isnt evin a human gun! omg!!!

  • 08.13.2007 10:01 AM PDT

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