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Posted by: TheSecretWeapon
I dunno about you guys, but that flame effect is really poor compared to the rest of the game's high production values.

Bungie described it as having liquid-based physics and really realistic effects, but to me that just looks like a poorly done, big puffy orange cloud being fired out, very bland and boring.

This is what the flame effect should be modeled on:
http://abstractnonsense.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/flamethro wer-754684.JPG

Normally I don't give a damn about graphical effects but this puffy orange cloud is nothing like the liquid flame they described.

Don't take me as a whiner either, I still love Halo 3. This is the ONLY thing I can complain about. I just hope they improve it so it's practically a perfect game.


Wow, you're absolutely right. You should make this game, since you obviously know a lot more about making video games than Bungie Studios. You could totally do it, since they care about what random dumbasses have to say.


Seriously man, what is wrong with you? I simply stated that the flame effect is not as good as they implied it would be, then you insult me and call me a dumbass...

I even said that it's still a great game (and I seriously meant near perfect game) regardless. I'm not saying I could make a better game. That's why I trust Bungie to do the best they can, but I still want tospeak up when there is something they could do better.

It doesn't even bother me that much. Don't be such a devoted fanboy- it's just a videogame, and it's not perfect either.

I dare to criticise it (In a constructive manner, I might add) and you get way too defensive. Take a break man, you're getting all worked up over the constructive criticisms of a random guy on the internet. That's not right, at alll.

If you have further issues with my attitude, send me a private message. I don't want to start a flame war here.

Regardless, just to ward off further obsessed fanboys, I've said it before, but I'll say it again: I think Halo 3 is going to be the best game out this year, if not so far during my lifetime.

  • 08.13.2007 4:55 PM PDT

You splattered a dumb cat

First!

Oh. wait. FTW?

But seriously, I love the new weapon and grenade. I am sure that Bungie has done plenty of playtesting to make sure the game stays balanced. Just how they only have the elephant on one map since it only worked there, they will probably only have the FT on maps that it will work.

I hope the firebomb is on EVERY MAP. That thing is flippin' sweet.

Brute weapon, eh? I would'a thought it was a human weapon...

  • 08.13.2007 5:02 PM PDT
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Yeah if you actually READ ABOUT THE GRENADE and paid attention to it it says the AVERAGE SOLDIER can throw it about 10 meters I don't think the Master Chief is an average soldier god I only wish I could post to every one of you who don't pay attention to this kind of stuff, like the guy who said something about the grenade causing retinal damage again if you read the books the chief has looked at some PRETTY BRIGHT THINGS and his SUIT/HUD can automatically dim the brightness so I'm sure it won't be like flash bang or anything.
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I think the flame thrower and the new grenade are definately going to help out with the mammoth beatings everyone is going to dish out to one another with the release of Halo Tres. The introduction of fire weapons is definately going to be interesting.

My only question is if the incindiary grenade is going to be the "Flare" that I have been hearing about in the Bungie Podcast. This is due to the fact that in the information about the weapon itself, it says that staring straight at the active grenade cause retina damage... Hmmmmm.

All in all, what a kick ars nugget of what is to come.

Thank you Bungie, keep it up homies.
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Flare is an item...


True, I forgot. Did anyone notice that in the incindiary grenades information posted that it can only be thrown around 10 meters? Interesting.

  • 08.13.2007 5:21 PM PDT
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-sorry something weird happened here sorry for double posting

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  • 08.13.2007 5:25 PM PDT
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hm......dunno what fire's gunna do to the gameplay though, guess we'll just have to see what its like in the game


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  • 08.13.2007 5:33 PM PDT
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anyone up for some roasted brute or charbroiled grunt?

  • 08.13.2007 5:33 PM PDT

-blam!- AWSOME

  • 08.13.2007 5:41 PM PDT
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I'll take a leg and maybe a thigh of some roasted brute. But seriously, can a flamethrower burn through Master Chief's suit?

  • 08.13.2007 5:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: TheSecretWeapon
Posted by: original smead
Posted by: TheSecretWeapon
I dunno about you guys, but that flame effect is really poor compared to the rest of the game's high production values.

Bungie described it as having liquid-based physics and really realistic effects, but to me that just looks like a poorly done, big puffy orange cloud being fired out, very bland and boring.

This is what the flame effect should be modeled on:
http://abstractnonsense.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/flamethro wer-754684.JPG

Normally I don't give a damn about graphical effects but this puffy orange cloud is nothing like the liquid flame they described.

Don't take me as a whiner either, I still love Halo 3. This is the ONLY thing I can complain about. I just hope they improve it so it's practically a perfect game.


Wow, you're absolutely right. You should make this game, since you obviously know a lot more about making video games than Bungie Studios. You could totally do it, since they care about what random dumbasses have to say.


Seriously man, what is wrong with you? I simply stated that the flame effect is not as good as they implied it would be, then you insult me and call me a dumbass...

I even said that it's still a great game (and I seriously meant near perfect game) regardless. I'm not saying I could make a better game. That's why I trust Bungie to do the best they can, but I still want tospeak up when there is something they could do better.

It doesn't even bother me that much. Don't be such a devoted fanboy- it's just a videogame, and it's not perfect either.

I dare to criticise it (In a constructive manner, I might add) and you get way too defensive. Take a break man, you're getting all worked up over the constructive criticisms of a random guy on the internet. That's not right, at alll.

If you have further issues with my attitude, send me a private message. I don't want to start a flame war here.

Regardless, just to ward off further obsessed fanboys, I've said it before, but I'll say it again: I think Halo 3 is going to be the best game out this year, if not so far during my lifetime.


Okay, this is where I feel like the dumbass. I mixed your name up with someone else and directed this to another perosn.
My apologies.

  • 08.13.2007 5:49 PM PDT
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i don' t wanna come off as a know it all ... so please so say i'm sooo wrong about what i'm saying, i'm just a really big fan of this game. so to my answer lol, i think tht they are adding this weapon becuase this is supposedly the last game of the trilogy. i honestly think this weapon doesn't fit at all but since its the last and the GREATEST of the trilogy i can see why they are adding so many new things. its gonna be good. no nevermind. ITS GONNA BE THE BEST GAME EVER!!! XD i LOVE HALO!!!

and yea people who want to talk and discuss halo you can message me with thoughts or anything. i love tlkin about this game

  • 08.13.2007 5:53 PM PDT

Posted by: PFC Conners
everyone knows why UNSC put the flamethrower back in right? and the addition of the incendiary grenade? THE FLOOD!!! no one has seemed to talk about the usefullness that these two new weapons for halo 3 will bring. obviously bungie is not going to acknowledge that the flood is going to be there however by announcing these weapons, we are in for another battle with the flood and the flamethrower is going to be the human variant to the sentinel beam, and of course there are two weapons that i know of that bungie hasn't announced as of yet, the excavator unless that is now the mauler (dual wielded shotgun [brute]) and of course that big ass plasma looking gun in the EGM mag, which just might be a plasma turret (support weapon) but then again every weapon we have the covenant have some sort of variant of, so i wonder what variant the covenant are going to come up with for our spartan laser. anyways that is just my opinion on weapons, but the flamethrower and incendiary grenades are gonna be very useful against the flood.


I totally agree. Bungie never told us about the flood for Halo 1 and 2. They wanted to keep it as a surprise though it's really hard for Halo 3, it's evident even without the flamethrower that there will be flood. But in Halo 2, that was a big surprise to me, I never saw it coming. I have to say, I really liked that moment.

  • 08.13.2007 6:23 PM PDT

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If all else fails... The long wait is over, Halo 3 welcomes the Flamethrower and a fourth grenade into the fold.


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Yay! Welcome to Friday's news!

How come Bungie is announcing this AFTER it's been announced?

  • 08.13.2007 6:37 PM PDT
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I think alot of people are forgetting that fire did damage in halo CE. Maybe they wil base the flamethrower on that.

  • 08.13.2007 6:41 PM PDT
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omg i cant what to berm a grunt

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Well i'm gonna be using that fire bomb like it's nobody's buisness, that thing is gonna be kick ass!!! But remind me NOT to use the flamethrower, that thing looks -blam!-. Not to mention all those remarks about it make it seem like it could be a near useless weapon.

  • 08.13.2007 7:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: SatanInASweater
Also, the killing radius for the Incendiary Grenade is noted as 13.4 meters or 8 feet. That's not right.


check that again, it says 3.4 meters

  • 08.13.2007 7:21 PM PDT
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No; when I posted that, it said 13.4, but then somebody changed it to 3.4 (which is still, by the way, very inaccurate).

  • 08.13.2007 7:41 PM PDT

A lime a day keeps teh scurvy at bay.

anyone else had the thought of sneaking up to a sniper post and screaming "Put a fire to the devils' nest!", then subsequently torching the jackal bastards? mmmm, just like chicken!

  • 08.13.2007 7:54 PM PDT
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One thing that just crossed my mind in that pic with the guy using the flame thrower it seemed as if it a had a large rang and considering the fact it only has nine shots of a three second burt, this must be an encedibly strong and efective wepon.

And a though i wonder what BBQ brute tastes like you know just wondering

  • 08.13.2007 8:10 PM PDT

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awesome, now just throw in small smoke grenades!!!, not as big as Call of duties, just a cloud of smoke big enough to use for cover.

  • 08.13.2007 8:31 PM PDT

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA it shall rain fire and brime stone and burt bodies shall cover the lands muhahaha



this is going to be awesome lavamans going to be well lavaman

  • 08.13.2007 9:01 PM PDT
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Holy god in hell! The flamethrower is screwed up again! Why can nobody make a descent flamethrower?! Flamethrowers don't produce clouds of fire! They produce STREAMS of fire! It is really, extremely uninteresting to see clouds of fire floating out from a gun. If the visuals for this don't improve by the final game, I think I'm just going to cry. I hope Bungie can live with me crying! (not possible).

no comment on the fourth grenade. Not enough info to know what its all about.

  • 08.13.2007 9:03 PM PDT

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Finally the forth grenade it puts my mind at rest.

  • 08.13.2007 11:01 PM PDT

Ive noticed that some of you guys who think that the flamethrower will be ineffictive at dispatching a spartan in MOJLINR armour dont have any problem with the incendiary grenade because it burns at a very high temp (2000 deg c). Napalm burns at 800-1200 deg c and has been around for over 30 years. However a new modern variety of "super napalm" has been createed using enriched polystyrene, sodium, magnesium or phosphorus that will burn at 1500-2000 deg c. Now, by 2552ish im sure we will have a more complete knowledge of chemistry and the elements that we have yet to discover and will be able to create an uber napalm that can burn at an even higher temperature. Also, MOJLINR is made of some super alloy witch means that it is made of metal. Guess what? Once any metal reaches a certain temperature it WILL melt, reguardless of how bad-ass an alloy it is. One more thing. covenant energy weapons use superheated plasma to kill targets. The plasma burns through anything it hits including Master Chiefs MOJLINR armour. You guys dont seem to have a problem with that so why should you have a problem with a uber napalm flame thrower? I end my rant on a good note... I love halo!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That is all

  • 08.13.2007 11:06 PM PDT