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Subject: meaning behind "two betrayals"
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there's no such thing as a stupid question, but this is pretty close......

why is that level called "two betrayals?"

is one betrayal 343 GS tricking the MC into starting halo's sequence?

what is the other betrayal?

thanks, and sorry once again if this is retarded

  • 08.16.2007 3:00 PM PDT
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Master Chief "betrayed" Cortana, by helping 343 Guilty Spark.

  • 08.16.2007 3:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: GA Ninja
Master Chief "betrayed" Cortana, by helping 343 Guilty Spark.


Or was it that simple?

  • 08.17.2007 9:15 AM PDT

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That level is named wrongly, if you think about it right.

The Monitor assumed the Chief is following protocol, as if this is all standard procedure. Remember how the Monitor is constantly ranting on about "Class-12 armour" and "containment procedures" in the Library? The Chief is unaware of this and thinks he is helping Cortana and humanity by activating Halo's defences. 343 isn't tricking, decieving or liying to the Chief. The Master Chief never asked about what Halo's defences against the Flood were and what exactly would happen. But you're probably thinking "why didn't he ask?", well he obviously assumed under trust didn't he? The betrayal wasn't that of this trust between Chief and the Monitor as there never was real trust. It was false under assumption. You don't ask questions then you don't get answers.

The same can be said about Cortana and Chief. Cortana didn't take the effort to communicate with the Chief even though she was watching him "toady about" with the monitor. Notice the word watching. She knew about them, yet she didn't bother. She could have turned off Life support system for the Flood and remotely shut down the sentinels. Hell, she even overpowered the monitor in the control room. Why couldn't she do it beforehand? She knew and still knows the inner most secrets of the Halos and the Forerunners. Of course, some would say that she had the encounter in the control room planned, that she didn't want the chief to get harmed with the monitor and his sentinels. Lemme' ask you a question: why didn't she pull him out considering she knows about the teleportation grid? There were other sentinel constructs not being controlled by the monitor, why didn't she hack them and save the chief? She was probably angry and that's the reason why her colour changed when she came out of the Control room's projector. She wanted to make it plain and simple to the chief, to make him suffer for what he was about to do (by allowing him to traverse through the Library).

If anybody betrayed anybody it was Cortana against the Chief, yet the general audience and the Chief himself didn't notice.

That's my theory anyway.

  • 08.19.2007 10:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ghost Unknown
That level is named wrongly, if you think about it right.

The Monitor assumed the Chief is following protocol, as if this is all standard procedure. Remember how the Monitor is constantly ranting on about "Class-12 armour" and "containment procedures" in the Library? The Chief is unaware of this and thinks he is helping Cortana and humanity by activating Halo's defences. 343 isn't tricking, decieving or liying to the Chief. The Master Chief never asked about what Halo's defences against the Flood were and what exactly would happen. But you're probably thinking "why didn't he ask?", well he obviously assumed under trust didn't he? The betrayal wasn't that of this trust between Chief and the Monitor as there never was real trust. It was false under assumption. You don't ask questions then you don't get answers.

The same can be said about Cortana and Chief. Cortana didn't take the effort to communicate with the Chief even though she was watching him "toady about" with the monitor. Notice the word watching. She knew about them, yet she didn't bother. She could have turned off Life support system for the Flood and remotely shut down the sentinels. Hell, she even overpowered the monitor in the control room. Why couldn't she do it beforehand? She knew and still knows the inner most secrets of the Halos and the Forerunners. Of course, some would say that she had the encounter in the control room planned, that she didn't want the chief to get harmed with the monitor and his sentinels. Lemme' ask you a question: why didn't she pull him out considering she knows about the teleportation grid? There were other sentinel constructs not being controlled by the monitor, why didn't she hack them and save the chief? She was probably angry and that's the reason why her colour changed when she came out of the Control room's projector. She wanted to make it plain and simple to the chief, to make him suffer for what he was about to do (by allowing him to traverse through the Library).

If anybody betrayed anybody it was Cortana against the Chief, yet the general audience and the Chief himself didn't notice.

That's my theory anyway.

Posted by: Ghost Unknown
That level is named wrongly, if you think about it right.

The Monitor assumed the Chief is following protocol, as if this is all standard procedure. Remember how the Monitor is constantly ranting on about "Class-12 armour" and "containment procedures" in the Library? The Chief is unaware of this and thinks he is helping Cortana and humanity by activating Halo's defences. 343 isn't tricking, decieving or liying to the Chief. The Master Chief never asked about what Halo's defences against the Flood were and what exactly would happen. But you're probably thinking "why didn't he ask?", well he obviously assumed under trust didn't he? The betrayal wasn't that of this trust between Chief and the Monitor as there never was real trust. It was false under assumption. You don't ask questions then you don't get answers.

The same can be said about Cortana and Chief. Cortana didn't take the effort to communicate with the Chief even though she was watching him "toady about" with the monitor. Notice the word watching. She knew about them, yet she didn't bother. She could have turned off Life support system for the Flood and remotely shut down the sentinels. Hell, she even overpowered the monitor in the control room. Why couldn't she do it beforehand? She knew and still knows the inner most secrets of the Halos and the Forerunners. Of course, some would say that she had the encounter in the control room planned, that she didn't want the chief to get harmed with the monitor and his sentinels. Lemme' ask you a question: why didn't she pull him out considering she knows about the teleportation grid? There were other sentinel constructs not being controlled by the monitor, why didn't she hack them and save the chief? She was probably angry and that's the reason why her colour changed when she came out of the Control room's projector. She wanted to make it plain and simple to the chief, to make him suffer for what he was about to do (by allowing him to traverse through the Library).

If anybody betrayed anybody it was Cortana against the Chief, yet the general audience and the Chief himself didn't notice.

That's my theory anyway.


Couldn't have said it better myself...

  • 08.20.2007 7:43 PM PDT

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Ah.. but what about gaining control of the Index? I know in the books that the moniter had tried to recover it with different marines, but with no success. Perhaps cortana was trying to keep halo from being activated by assuring the chief would attain the index. Then there is the matter of Cortana's processing speed. She's fast, god bless her, but is she really fast enough, even in six-twelve hours to sift through the vast amounts of info the forrunners had put into the control room? Then again, the books state that the copies of information swelled her so much that it hindered her processing power, just look what happened between her and that covey AI.

Not really trying to be arguementitive, just trying to put in as much info befrore we agree on something.

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