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Subject: Why the SMG does not suck.
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I may be stupid, but I'm not an idiot... just call me an oxymoron.

Yes I know I'll be flamed for this, and flame all you want, but the SMG happens to be one of the best weapons in the game (not in H3).

Pros: High ROF, Dual Wieldable, large ammo clip, large ammo reserve, fair mid range accuracy, great short range accuracy

Cons: walks upwards, weak vs. br

I've killed more people in Halo 2 online with the SMG than any other weapon (and not just because I spawn with it, it's because I choose to keep it) I don't know how many times I've sprayed someone with bullets from 2 SMG's, then meleed them for a very quick kill.

And, I know I'll be flamed for this, too, but the BR is a terrible starting weapon. It just makes everyone hang back and shoot at the people running across the map looking for a funner weapon, the people who are actually trying to have fun, not just get kills.

  • 08.16.2007 10:30 PM PDT

Quit Ban - FIne by me. I'll enjoy the breaks.

I'll be kind in this.

1. Dual-Wielding SMG's causes you to not be able to grenade.
2. Mid-Range???? What SMG's have you been using?

Plus SMG spawns are the worst style of GT possible. You Almost Instantly get wasted by someone with a stronger weapon combo.

I'll Give you it's not a terrible weapon...It's just not good either.

P.S. Put on your Flame Suit :)

[Edited on 08.16.2007 11:19 PM PDT]

  • 08.16.2007 10:33 PM PDT
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I agree. I bet I can beat most people here using an SMG.

  • 08.16.2007 10:37 PM PDT

Check out my Halo 3 Machinma here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rNzxWp77Zo

El guapo I agree with you, when it comes to short/medium range smgs can be terribly overwhelming, even a sword monger is no match for a man with a smg and great manuever.

  • 08.16.2007 10:37 PM PDT

Posted by: HyperSMB
I''l be kind in this.

1. Dual-Wielding SMG's causes you to not be able to grenade.
2. Mid-Range???? What SMG's have you been using?

Plus SMG spawns are the worst style of GT possible. You Almost Instantly get wasted by someone with a stronger weapon combo.

I'll Give you it's not a terrible weapon...It's just not good either.

P.S. Put on your Flame Suit :)


Your both right in a way, SMG is just terrible. gotta face it.
BR is ok. But when everyone spawns with it, well its alittle too long range. and other problems that I wont get in to.
H3 AR will be awesome, best starter.

  • 08.16.2007 10:38 PM PDT
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You Fail At Life please kill yourself

  • 08.16.2007 10:41 PM PDT
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You Fail At Life please kill yourself

That was uncalled for...

  • 08.16.2007 10:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: imbrion111
You Fail At Life please kill yourself

That was uncalled for...


so true....

back to the topic now...

i myself dont think the SMG is that bad of a starting wepon, it does need more skill to be able to kill with it than a BR but thats what i like about it. anyone can shot 4times to the head with a BR n get a kill, but with the SMG it takes more skill....

Also dualwielding it with any other dualwielding wepon n it makes a pretty hard combo to beat if ur a skilled player with it...

just my 2c worth, i will proberly b flamed for these comments but it dont matter what u say on these forums coz someone will always dis agree n flame u

  • 08.16.2007 11:11 PM PDT

I destroy everyone with dual SMGs. If you click left and right trigger simultaneously, they can be used in mid/long range. I've killed someone who had part of his shields left with dual SMGs across the map on Foundation; also, the guy didn't know where I was and wasn't shooting at me, if that matters...

[Edited on 08.16.2007 11:16 PM PDT]

  • 08.16.2007 11:14 PM PDT
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I think the SMG is terrible, but I also think that's what makes it a good starting weapon. Honestly, I dislike starting with the BR because it completely removes the need to find alternative weapons in most cases.

  • 08.16.2007 11:47 PM PDT
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The SMG is an all around balanced weapon. Lets say the SMG doesn't go very well while shooting for LONG range. Dual wielding SMG VS Carbine is risky- unless SMG is close to the opponent, SMG wins. Oh, and the SMG is my fav weapon too.

  • 08.16.2007 11:47 PM PDT

AKA: Tac0 has skill; Und3ad Tac0;

dual wielding smgs could out a br any day from mid range just burst shot it but the br is good for farther and is not as easy to get skilled at as you think. i think are both good weapons u just need to use them both and get good with all weapons

  • 08.16.2007 11:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: TheTruthOfAllTru
Posted by: imbrion111
You Fail At Life please kill yourself

That was uncalled for...


so true....

back to the topic now...

i myself dont think the SMG is that bad of a starting wepon, it does need more skill to be able to kill with it than a BR but thats what i like about it. anyone can shot 4times to the head with a BR n get a kill, but with the SMG it takes more skill....

Also dualwielding it with any other dualwielding wepon n it makes a pretty hard combo to beat if ur a skilled player with it...

just my 2c worth, i will proberly b flamed for these comments but it dont matter what u say on these forums coz someone will always dis agree n flame u


I respectfully disagree.

  • 08.16.2007 11:59 PM PDT

AKA: Tac0 has skill; Und3ad Tac0;

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Posted by: TokenBlackGuy4U
Posted by: TheTruthOfAllTru
Posted by: imbrion111
You Fail At Life please kill yourself

That was uncalled for...


so true....

back to the topic now...

i myself dont think the SMG is that bad of a starting wepon, it does need more skill to be able to kill with it than a BR but thats what i like about it. anyone can shot 4times to the head with a BR n get a kill, but with the SMG it takes more skill....

Also dualwielding it with any other dualwielding wepon n it makes a pretty hard combo to beat if ur a skilled player with it...

just my 2c worth, i will proberly b flamed for these comments but it dont matter what u say on these forums coz someone will always dis agree n flame u


I respectfully disagree.

same here

  • 08.17.2007 12:14 AM PDT
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Posted by: lostjap89
Posted by: PoopSmasher
Posted by: TokenBlackGuy4U
Posted by: TheTruthOfAllTru
Posted by: imbrion111
You Fail At Life please kill yourself

That was uncalled for...


so true....

back to the topic now...

i myself dont think the SMG is that bad of a starting wepon, it does need more skill to be able to kill with it than a BR but thats what i like about it. anyone can shot 4times to the head with a BR n get a kill, but with the SMG it takes more skill....

Also dualwielding it with any other dualwielding wepon n it makes a pretty hard combo to beat if ur a skilled player with it...

just my 2c worth, i will proberly b flamed for these comments but it dont matter what u say on these forums coz someone will always dis agree n flame u


I respectfully disagree.

same here


theres nufin wrong with disagreeing with my comments, i was actually waitin for sum1 to flame me for them seein as thats what usually happens... its nice to c some1/1's actually disagree in a nice n muture manner for once....

everyone has there own oppinions n i just stated mine. i have no problem with ppl disagreeing with them coz after all there my oppinions nots everyones

  • 08.17.2007 12:25 AM PDT
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BR v. SMG who wins almost everytime?

  • 08.17.2007 1:12 AM PDT
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Posted by: v BlindSide v
BR v. SMG who wins almost everytime?


y it depends of course =)

  • 08.17.2007 1:22 AM PDT
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Carrots.

I've beaten rocket guys/MLGpros/everyone with an SMG or two. Also, if you pulse the triggers rapidly, it doesn't crawl up. SMG's are good for medium range, but it doesn't fire in bursts, so BR fans are like "WTFAWK I CAN'T USE ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T FIRE IN THREE BULLETS AND DOESN'T HAVE A SCOPE"

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Posted by: GezaB
I've beaten rocket guys/MLGpros/everyone with an SMG or two. Also, if you pulse the triggers rapidly, it doesn't crawl up. SMG's are good for medium range, but it doesn't fire in bursts, so BR fans are like "WTFAWK I CAN'T USE ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T FIRE IN THREE BULLETS AND DOESN'T HAVE A SCOPE"


yeah i dont think many ppl kow about the pulse trick but it does work really well hey?

i'm not sayin i'm a SMG ora BR fan, i like both, i just dont c y ppl dont like one or the other(especially SMG's).... u can kill anyone quiet easily with any wepon thats in halo, all u have to do is learn there pro's n con's n work out how to use them properly n you'll find that ur alot better of a player for it. simply because ur not running around lookin for a certain weapon instead u can pick up whatevers near u n go from there...

  • 08.17.2007 1:47 AM PDT
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I like to have them both, but if I come across a power weapon I will ditch the smg.

  • 08.17.2007 2:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: El Guapo
Yes I know I'll be flamed for this, and flame all you want, but the SMG happens to be one of the best weapons in the game (not in H3).

Pros: High ROF, Dual Wieldable, large ammo clip, large ammo reserve, fair mid range accuracy, great short range accuracy

Cons: walks upwards, weak vs. br

I've killed more people in Halo 2 online with the SMG than any other weapon (and not just because I spawn with it, it's because I choose to keep it) I don't know how many times I've sprayed someone with bullets from 2 SMG's, then meleed them for a very quick kill.

And, I know I'll be flamed for this, too, but the BR is a terrible starting weapon. It just makes everyone hang back and shoot at the people running across the map looking for a funner weapon, the people who are actually trying to have fun, not just get kills.


Another con you forgot? Really weak ammunition.

  • 08.17.2007 3:43 AM PDT

I prefer the Sniper Rifle, however, holding a sniper rifle is very dangerous. your just as likely going to get killed by an enemy as your are betrayed by a retard.

but smg vs BR, BR will always win unless its melee range.

also, everyone here has very warped idea's of "mid range" Mid range is atleast the distance between say the sea wall on zanzibar and the fan in which the smg absolutly blows at killing at. smg is short range only, just like the shot gun is pointless melee range.

  • 08.17.2007 4:13 AM PDT

Posted by: HendinoTheGodMan

Rocket = LOTS OF SKILL!!!!


I know your not serious about it, but thats the kind of comment that gets you flamed

  • 08.17.2007 4:16 AM PDT