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The SMG can beat a BR for close-range...but mid-range it would be difficult.

Posted by: HendinoTheGodMan
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but smg vs BR, BR will always win unless its melee range.

Yer sure, r u stupid, br has only 36 rounds, smg has 60 = SMG OWNES BR!!!


That gives the BR 12 chances to get head shots.

  • 08.17.2007 4:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: HendinoTheGodMan
Plus br is less accurate!
SMG = 60 headshots


60 headshots that would fail...

  • 08.17.2007 4:37 AM PDT

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Yea, I agree with that

  • 08.17.2007 4:39 AM PDT

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Don't forget, the SMG can destroy someone holding Rockets or a Sniper.

  • 08.17.2007 4:44 AM PDT
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Not gonna flame but SMG isnt a good weapon sorry.

Maybe modded SMGs are, i dont know.

BR is more fun to use anyway.

  • 08.17.2007 5:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: HendinoTheGodMan
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Not gonna flame but SMG isnt a good weapon sorry.

u have no idea wat u r talkin about, smg will pwn br anyday


yeah if its close range. other than that SMG sucks at MID-FAR range.

Go try. BR/Carbine vs SMG in MID_FAR, see who wins.

And also ppl can BXR which makes BR that much ore deadly.

  • 08.17.2007 5:10 AM PDT
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ok now i know your being sarcastic or your just retarded.

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While I see your point about the SMG being better than the BR as a starting weapon, I have to dissagree, to a point. As an overall better weapon, the BR is superior. If someone is running at me with an SMG and I have a BR, I just keep distance between us and render them helpless. When you say you can take out the majority of people with BRs, you're assuming the majority of the people with BRs are pretty dumb (but that is a TOTAL possibility lol). As far as a starting weapon goes, for some matches I like the SMG. It forces people to run out and hold down weapons, which is the main factor in success for H2 MM. If the other team has Overshield, Snipes, Rock, and Shotty... well your team usually uses. If SMGs are spawning weps, your team could hold down BRs and possibly take over other weps, or lose BRs and be 10x more screwed.

So for the readers digest version:
SMG<BR in terms of damage, range, and effectiveness
SMG>BR in terms of slayer challange and variety

  • 08.17.2007 5:36 AM PDT

Posted by: El Guapo
I don't know how many times I've sprayed someone with bullets from 2 SMG's, then meleed them for a very quick kill.

Oh, so it's a great gun because you need two of them and still have to melee?!

The SMG is not good. You can get some reasonable firepower going by burst-firing a pair of them, but that does not make a good weapon. The damn thing won't even put a single bullet in the middle of the reticle. They fire in a ring formation for god's sake!

Thankfully it's improved in Halo 3 AND we don't spawn with it. Better all round.

And who are you to say people don't have fun by getting kills, anyway?

  • 08.17.2007 6:39 AM PDT

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  • 08.17.2007 8:04 AM PDT

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  • 08.17.2007 8:33 AM PDT
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Um... the BR takes a lot more skill than the SMG. With the BR, you have to focus on a 4-shot headshot and BXR-ing. With the SMG, it's spray-n-pray. Of course, having two SMGs gives you a greater RoF, but you can't throw grenades, and I'd personally rather throw grenades then dual wield (other than PP+SMG or SMG+PR).

With that said, I don't consider the SMG to be a bad weapon. I use it every so often dual-wielded on Slayer for a few quick kills before switching in to a BR. On TS or 2v2, I find someone to PP+SMG or SMG+PR with me and we go around the map and that works really well. You do have to be careful with BR users, and dual-wielding leaves you really suspectible to grenades and melees, but hey, lern2adapt.

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I prefer dual smgs to a shotgun at close range because I've been right next to someone with a shottie and they didn't die. the dual smg combo while holding down the triggers just murdered this poor dolt.

edit: One more thing, if you are going up against someone with a br and you have dual smg then just circle strafe while hosing him. This trick is harder than doing it to a sniper, but it works just the same. while they are trying to aim at your head with their more powerful bullets, mounds of little bullets are spraying all over them. Yes the aim isn't as good, but I have killed a br guy from a distance with dual smg.

[Edited on 08.17.2007 8:50 AM PDT]

  • 08.17.2007 8:46 AM PDT
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If I was the guy using the BR in that circle strafe situation, I'd either anticipate your movement for a sticky or go up for a BXR.

But either way, don't stand still and let them circle strafe you. Standing still = death

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This thread fails so hard.

  • 08.17.2007 10:19 AM PDT