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SMG = Suck because when the other team has the BR your done

  • 08.18.2007 11:15 PM PDT
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because it's pretty. I like the purple color effects it makes.

[Edited on 08.18.2007 11:19 PM PDT]

  • 08.18.2007 11:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: El Guapo
Yes I know I'll be flamed for this, and flame all you want, but the SMG happens to be one of the best weapons in the game (not in H3).

Pros: High ROF, Dual Wieldable, large ammo clip, large ammo reserve, fair mid range accuracy, great short range accuracy

Cons: walks upwards, weak vs. br

I've killed more people in Halo 2 online with the SMG than any other weapon (and not just because I spawn with it, it's because I choose to keep it) I don't know how many times I've sprayed someone with bullets from 2 SMG's, then meleed them for a very quick kill.

And, I know I'll be flamed for this, too, but the BR is a terrible starting weapon. It just makes everyone hang back and shoot at the people running across the map looking for a funner weapon, the people who are actually trying to have fun, not just get kills.
Use the BR Guapo, you might go positive, lmfao.

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Posted by: El Guapo
Yes I know I'll be flamed for this, and flame all you want, but the SMG happens to be one of the best weapons in the game (not in H3).

Pros: High ROF, Dual Wieldable, large ammo clip, large ammo reserve, fair mid range accuracy, great short range accuracy

Cons: walks upwards, weak vs. br

I've killed more people in Halo 2 online with the SMG than any other weapon (and not just because I spawn with it, it's because I choose to keep it) I don't know how many times I've sprayed someone with bullets from 2 SMG's, then meleed them for a very quick kill.

And, I know I'll be flamed for this, too, but the BR is a terrible starting weapon. It just makes everyone hang back and shoot at the people running across the map looking for a funner weapon, the people who are actually trying to have fun, not just get kills.
Use the BR Guapo, you might go positive, lmfao.

[Edited on 08.18.2007 11:34 PM PDT]


  • 08.21.2007 9:20 PM PDT
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Like ive seen quite a few people say, the SMG is not a bad weapon. I, myself would take most weapons over the SMG anyday. The fact of the matter is, in SMG spawn games, I tend to mainly use the SMG, because I can't find another weapon. I believe the BR is better, but I don't mind starting with an SMG.

  • 08.22.2007 12:10 AM PDT
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I agree that the SMG is a superior weapon because its semi-automatic and you can dual-wield. And also you just gotta shoot a magazine on a guy and his shields will be down then just give him a smack and hes done. But I'd choose the SMG over the BR because BR only shoots spurts.

  • 08.22.2007 12:35 AM PDT
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Posted by: MrKite
I agree that the SMG is a superior weapon because its semi-automatic


Uh, it's actually fully automatic. Semi-auto is when you have to pull the trigger each time to shoot, like the BR. Full-auto is where you can hold down the trigger and it'll shoot until it runs out of ammo (like the SMG).

  • 08.22.2007 12:45 AM PDT
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Posted by: The Hypnotoad15
H3 AR will be awesome, best starter.

QFT

  • 08.22.2007 5:08 AM PDT
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The smg aint bad, but it's better if you team it up with the magnum. While the smg works on the shields, use the magnum to get that headshot for the kill.

  • 08.22.2007 9:42 AM PDT

Moo

The SMG is effective as a spawning weapon, but only in a limited group of maps or scenarios. I would much rather have a BR for MOST maps.

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I prefer SMG starts, mainly because I got tired of using the BR all the time in most game types. I normally keep my SMG throughout the entire game and use it in conjunction with others weapons such as the pistol and frag grenades. Try it, you may be suprised at how far away you can kill an enemy who has a sniper or BR with an SMG/Pistol combo. The SMG is a fun weapon to use because it is so versatile when using it with other weapons and/or grenades. I always laugh at these kids who think they need a BR or snipe to win a game on Lockout or Sanctuary, when 90% of the time I end up with a better kill/death ratio than them using mainly my SMG and my tremendous skill. BRing from across the map on Tombstone or Desolation is not my idea of fun, although this may be a bad example since these maps are poorly designed anyways.

  • 08.22.2007 10:54 AM PDT
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You presented some decent arguements, but overall the SMG is a terrible weapon, I'm sorry to say.

I'm not flaming you (at all) by typing this, but the SMG can't shake a stick at the majority of the weapons in this game. People never realize this until they face an actual team of good players who all have BR's and the power weapons (and are set up) and you have a lowley pea shooter.

Granted, the BR is not the ideal starting weapon, but for a game like Halo 2, it's the best weapon this game has to offer (in terms of spawning with it.)

The SMG is a broken weapon, and makes for lackluster combat. But a lot of the higher level team slayer people know how to use it (or at least know how effective it can be in high level team slayer games.)

For the most part though, you're always going to either be dual wielding with it, or dropping it for a better weapon.

  • 08.22.2007 11:41 AM PDT
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so true....

back to the topic now...

i myself dont think the SMG is that bad of a starting wepon, it does need more skill to be able to kill with it than a BR but thats what i like about it. anyone can shot 4times to the head with a BR n get a kill, but with the SMG it takes more skill....

Also dualwielding it with any other dualwielding wepon n it makes a pretty hard combo to beat if ur a skilled player with it...

just my 2c worth, i will proberly b flamed for these comments but it dont matter what u say on these forums coz someone will always dis agree n flame u

WOW GG kid

  • 08.22.2007 12:11 PM PDT

w00t w00t to all the psychotic warthog drivers out there like me


Your both right in a way, SMG is just terrible. gotta face it.
BR is ok. But when everyone spawns with it, well its alittle too long range. and other problems that I wont get in to.
H3 AR will be awesome, best starter.


Yea man i agree with you, i own with the smg pistol combo. i also agree with the others in that, yes it is a terrible weapon, BY ITSELF, but when paired with any other weapon ( not the plasma pistol) it is very devestating. Also, hypnotoad15, you are right... ASSULT RIFLE ALL THE WAY IN H3!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 08.22.2007 1:41 PM PDT
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it's an old point but regarding not being able to grenade whilst duel wielding.... all you have to do is drop it, throw a grenade and pick it back up. half of the time you can pick a better weapon to go with it or grab the sword from the guy you just killed. if you control the fire the smg is actually fairly decent long-range,. it's the crawling upwards i have issue's with. Plus even if it seems you're outgunned because someone has a br and you don't you might be able to outwit them. I don't understand why people will keep on finding an aspect to moan about the game this is probably the game that's had the most life for me ever. if you're that bad with smg's... practice.

  • 08.22.2007 4:28 PM PDT
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SMG's are kinda good, but definitely not as good as the Assault Rifle

  • 08.22.2007 6:00 PM PDT
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Dual plasma pistols are better than dual smgs hands down.

  • 08.22.2007 6:23 PM PDT
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Well the only time where i can kill someone at mid-range with an SMG is when there shields are half down and there not focusing on me... anyways

Battle Rifle FTW!!!

  • 08.22.2007 8:02 PM PDT
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Im decent with a single SMG, as long as its on a small map like Midship.
Fire then meelee.

  • 08.22.2007 8:14 PM PDT
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I prefer the dual smg when at shotgun range. What you said about tombstone being a bad map is only true because of the BR. In halo 1 the pistol made it an evil map, but you could work around it. now the br just makes it a camper's wet dream.

  • 08.22.2007 11:03 PM PDT
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Tombstone is only a bad map because of the latency on Xbox Live. I bet its fine and as fun as Hang em High if you play Tombstone on LAN.

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Posted by: Done DL
Tombstone is only a bad map because of the latency on Xbox Live. I bet its fine and as fun as Hand em High if you play Tombstone on LAN.


I know we are going off topic, but playing hide and seek in tombstone was awesome because there are soo many places to hide that the jugernaut can't find them all unless he uses his brain.

  • 08.22.2007 11:29 PM PDT
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Smg + needler is ohk but i agree with the other people more about SMG n pistol. that is an awesome combo. as 1 guy said, SMG to break shields while the pistol goes for the head shots....

but needler + needler = noobler lol i own with them. who needs the noob combo when u have dual needlers(nooblers)

  • 08.23.2007 2:02 AM PDT