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Subject: Take Sword Out of Harcore???
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I would guess their talking about slayer.

  • 08.27.2007 8:44 AM PDT
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ITT idiots trying to act like the sword isn't a power weapon to increase their e-dongs.

FACT:Sword is impossible to avoid in any way shape or form if he attacks from above you. If he's above you and his cursor turns read guess what you're going to be waiting 5 seconds to do?

You can all act like "LOL ITS NUB CAUSE JUST STAY AT RANGE" but that's not always 100% possible, and it's MUCH harder to ensure you're always at a range from sword guy if your team is losing and therefore being backed into a corner while the other team picks up all the weapons and positions. You can try to get at a range from the sword, only to get destroyed by his teammates with the snipers and combos sitting outside your little hiding spot. The sword adds an unbelievable amount of pressure the the other team and makes executing any sort of comeback much harder as it essentially defeats any possibility of a close range attack, forcing you to run at an enemy from a bad position.

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  • 08.27.2007 8:57 AM PDT
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  • 08.27.2007 9:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: glass
Posted by: Killy
Hey i am so sick and tired of playing Hardcore and getting powned by the sword!
I think it sould be taken out because people rely on it way too much and it takes no skill to use!!!
So I want to know what all you Bungiers think!!!
Lemme know why you chose what you chose!

Thanks


There are very simple ways on how to avoid the sword, for beginners stay long range. you have a Battle Rifle, possibly shotgun, carbine, and many others weapons. Why for the love of God would you try and beat down the sword guy? Secondly, you can use an advanced technique called Strafing, if you strafe to the opposite side of the sword if they are charging directly at you they will miss. There are some videos on how to avoid this on Youtube.


Im not a Beginner. But I see what your saying!
I guess the reason I cant take out the sword in hardcore is cuz my teammates usually use no teamwork and I get left along in close courters to kill the sword by myself and get powndizzled! So maybe I should play with other ppl who know what they are doing lol
Hmm and yea I kinda forgot about the whole strifing thing. I need to use that against the sword more. and yes there is no POINT to try and beat-down the sword guy if he knows what he is doing!

  • 08.27.2007 9:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: glass
Posted by: Killy
Hey i am so sick and tired of playing Hardcore and getting powned by the sword!
I think it sould be taken out because people rely on it way too much and it takes no skill to use!!!
So I want to know what all you Bungiers think!!!
Lemme know why you chose what you chose!

Thanks


There are very simple ways on how to avoid the sword, for beginners stay long range. you have a Battle Rifle, possibly shotgun, carbine, and many others weapons. Why for the love of God would you try and beat down the sword guy? Secondly, you can use an advanced technique called Strafing, if you strafe to the opposite side of the sword if they are charging directly at you they will miss. There are some videos on how to avoid this on Youtube.


Im not a Beginner. But I see what your saying!
I guess the reason I cant take out the sword in hardcore is cuz my teammates usually use no teamwork and I get left along in close courters to kill the sword by myself and get powndizzled! So maybe I should play with other ppl who know what they are doing lol
Hmm and yea I kinda forgot about the whole strifing thing. I need to use that against the sword more. and yes there is no POINT to try and beat-down the sword guy if he knows what he is doing!

  • 08.27.2007 9:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: Killy
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I never get pwned by the sword in hardcore.


I usually dont but it just pisses me off when I do lol!!! espicailly on midship when you are out BRing someone and he pulls out the sword


so bungie should take out every weapon you get "pwned" with? .......so pretty much every weapon? this is the lamest request i've ever heard.

  • 08.27.2007 9:35 AM PDT
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so bungie should take out every weapon you get "pwned" with? .......so pretty much every weapon? this is the lamest request i've ever heard.

No. Did I say that? nope I did not. I said the sword in team hardcore not every weapon I get powned with.
and I just wanted to know what other people thought! so quit being a dumbass

[Edited on 08.27.2007 9:42 AM PDT]

  • 08.27.2007 9:38 AM PDT
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Killy, first of all you misspelled pwned. Second of all I agree with you. The sword takes no skill to use. Even thought it is freakin' awesome they need out take it out of team hardcore. ONLY team hardcore.

[Edited on 08.27.2007 9:55 AM PDT]

  • 08.27.2007 9:47 AM PDT
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Killy, firsy of all you miss spelled pwned. Second of all I agree with you. The sword takes no skill to use. Even thought it is freakin' awesome they need out take it out of team hardcore.


Is "pwned" even a real word in the first place?
and im glad you agree with me about the sword in hardcore!

  • 08.27.2007 10:09 AM PDT
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Posted by: SYN Secret
hardcore is about technique and the sword is a one hit lunge kill imagine if the Battle rifle was that. WTF? EXACTLY!


The battle rifle is that. Ever BXR a guy? Imagine if you actually had to aim at melee range.

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Well what you could do to avoid that sword guy is to shoot him with your BR from a far distance.

  • 08.27.2007 11:06 AM PDT

Posted by: GeoffL
ITT idiots trying to act like the sword isn't a power weapon to increase their e-dongs.

FACT:Sword is impossible to avoid in any way shape or form if he attacks from above you. If he's above you and his cursor turns read guess what you're going to be waiting 5 seconds to do?
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So you try to increase your e-dong by going against them to try to come across as super duper smart? Whatever, kid.

FACT: When holding a shotgun, you can aim up. FACT: When holding a plasma grenade, you can aim up. FACT: Many people BXR the sword.

If you are getting range from the sword yet getting destroyed by snipers, you are not smart. You stay away from any area the sniper can kill you from and you hold ground as a team. Ive had my whole team pinned by power weapons on lockout. we moved to the green room and waited for the other team to bring us our weapons back. Those being sniper, sword, shotgun, and noob combo (yes im calling it a power weapon)

  • 08.27.2007 11:50 AM PDT
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Hmmmm interisting

  • 08.27.2007 1:12 PM PDT
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it isnt like its 100% kill with the sword sometimes they miss and i love it when they lunge but im like too close or something and they dont kill me in one hit and i just beat them down they get so pissed lol (yes i have beat down a sword guy when he lunged me its called crouch melee) every weapon is fair and its your fault as a team or just you for not getting rid of it first.

only modification i would say you would need is to put a battery meter on the sword like campaign cause being able to whack the whole time is just wierd it isnt like a weapon where ammo is depleted but thats still no argue to cry over a spilled milk

  • 08.27.2007 1:18 PM PDT

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The sword is apart of Halo. There is nothing wrong with it. There are always ways to kill the sword

  • 08.27.2007 1:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: GeoffL
ITT idiots trying to act like the sword isn't a power weapon to increase their e-dongs.

FACT:Sword is impossible to avoid in any way shape or form if he attacks from above you. If he's above you and his cursor turns read guess what you're going to be waiting 5 seconds to do?

You can all act like "LOL ITS NUB CAUSE JUST STAY AT RANGE" but that's not always 100% possible, and it's MUCH harder to ensure you're always at a range from sword guy if your team is losing and therefore being backed into a corner while the other team picks up all the weapons and positions. You can try to get at a range from the sword, only to get destroyed by his teammates with the snipers and combos sitting outside your little hiding spot. The sword adds an unbelievable amount of pressure the the other team and makes executing any sort of comeback much harder as it essentially defeats any possibility of a close range attack, forcing you to run at an enemy from a bad position.


You know if the other team has power weapons and you are cornered with your team against the wall. Its nearly impossible to not get out soon on a map with the sword except on Zanzibar, in which case is impossible since its a big map. You ideas are not properly posted. lets set an example The other team has Sniper Rifle, Sword, Shotgun, and another guy has a Magnum. You and your teammates are cornered in the small Bottom level floor on Battle Rifle tower. Theer is almost no way that at some point you will be able to escape. For the other team to cover all possible areas, 1 with each player is easily escaped from. You and the rest of your team have Battle Rifles. Simply move with your team and use team power to take out single people, even a sword can't take a beating of 4 Battle Rifles, neither can the Sniper Rifle.

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Posted by: baccardinals
The sword is apart of Halo. There is nothing wrong with it. There are always ways to kill the sword


Yes and the Fuel Rod cannon is a part of the game halo but it isn't used at all now is it?

  • 08.27.2007 1:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: GeoffL
ITT idiots trying to act like the sword isn't a power weapon to increase their e-dongs.

FACT:Sword is impossible to avoid in any way shape or form if he attacks from above you. If he's above you and his cursor turns read guess what you're going to be waiting 5 seconds to do?

You can all act like "LOL ITS NUB CAUSE JUST STAY AT RANGE" but that's not always 100% possible, and it's MUCH harder to ensure you're always at a range from sword guy if your team is losing and therefore being backed into a corner while the other team picks up all the weapons and positions. You can try to get at a range from the sword, only to get destroyed by his teammates with the snipers and combos sitting outside your little hiding spot. The sword adds an unbelievable amount of pressure the the other team and makes executing any sort of comeback much harder as it essentially defeats any possibility of a close range attack, forcing you to run at an enemy from a bad position.

actually now that i think about it the sword doesnt really put the pressure on you unless you know what you're doing and so does your team that are your friends not the random guys. but seriously i dont really care if the guy has sowrd or not im actually more of a really skilled/lucky retard where i know the sword guy is but i just throw grenades and keep harassing him hoping my friend will pop out and finish him off. I mean yea 2-1 isnt good you know for us (2 kills- one death) but hey i have the sword and im sure ill get a good exercise with it lol.

  • 08.27.2007 1:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: Heroyi
Posted by: GeoffL
ITT idiots trying to act like the sword isn't a power weapon to increase their e-dongs.

FACT:Sword is impossible to avoid in any way shape or form if he attacks from above you. If he's above you and his cursor turns read guess what you're going to be waiting 5 seconds to do?

You can all act like "LOL ITS NUB CAUSE JUST STAY AT RANGE" but that's not always 100% possible, and it's MUCH harder to ensure you're always at a range from sword guy if your team is losing and therefore being backed into a corner while the other team picks up all the weapons and positions. You can try to get at a range from the sword, only to get destroyed by his teammates with the snipers and combos sitting outside your little hiding spot. The sword adds an unbelievable amount of pressure the the other team and makes executing any sort of comeback much harder as it essentially defeats any possibility of a close range attack, forcing you to run at an enemy from a bad position.



actually now that i think about it the sword doesnt really put the pressure on you unless you know what you're doing and so does your team that are your friends not the random guys. but seriously i dont really care if the guy has sowrd or not im actually more of a really skilled/lucky retard where i know the sword guy is but i just throw grenades and keep harassing him hoping my friend will pop out and finish him off. I mean yea 2-1 isnt good you know for us (2 kills- one death) but hey i have the sword and im sure ill get a good exercise with it lol.


Um.....What?

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  • 08.27.2007 2:01 PM PDT

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Leave the sword in hardcore, why does it matter which gametype? if they take it out of hardcore, you have to take it out of EVERYTHING. its easy to defend against to... just get a shotty and wait for them to lunge and pump them full of lead.

  • 08.27.2007 2:11 PM PDT
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The one thing that annoys me about the sword is the sugar jump glitch. So many times when i have it, instead of killing my opponent, I will simply miss them by a hair and get sent flying (especially frustrating in Lockout....)

  • 08.27.2007 2:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: glass
Posted by: baccardinals
The sword is apart of Halo. There is nothing wrong with it. There are always ways to kill the sword


Yes and the Fuel Rod cannon is a part of the game halo but it isn't used at all now is it?


haha good call

  • 08.27.2007 2:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: CxEnVy
Posted by: Killy
Posted by: glass
Posted by: baccardinals
The sword is apart of Halo. There is nothing wrong with it. There are always ways to kill the sword


Yes and the Fuel Rod cannon is a part of the game halo but it isn't used at all now is it?


haha good call

That's because it was never balanced and tested for XBL. It was never put into multiplayer on the other hand the sword is in multiplayer.

Edit: I actually found this nice quote thanks to iceman :

FrankDawg420 asks,


Why isn't the Fuel Rod gun available in multiplayer?



Two very good reasons, performance and balance. It's waaaaay too powerful for most of the Halo 2 maps, and it also chugs when you have more than a couple on screen at once. It would have been cool, but we have to make sure all the weapons are as balanced as possible and we have to keep the frame rate nice and smooth. Fuel Rod gun would have killed both.


That was from a thread I had made about the Fuel Rod Cannon. Looks like the votes have changed now, people want to keep the sword in now fools muwhaha.

my point about the Fuel rod Cannon though is that so maybe the sword is to powerful, so is the fuel rod cannon why did they take that out? Actually they never put it in. So why take out another weapon. Just keep it. So the Fuel Rod cannon is a little over powerful well at least keep in the sword. Like that one guy said. there are setbacks. Such as the sugar jump glitch.

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