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Subject: What should be kept, and lost, for the Halo series..
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Im an elite online too, cause they look better w/ the color combos and get cooler emblems. I personally think that the arbiter levels are a little more challenging. and i could really care less if they took the arbiter out, no offense to the arbiter fans, of course ^^;...

And to stay with the original subject, i think keys' daughter was way too random. but i think johnson should stay all the way! i read all 3 books and kinda didn't like the fact that somehting so unlikely happed with johnson. he's more bad arss in halo 2 that he was with his little role in halo 1. i am a little edgy w/ the whole alliance between human and elite topic though>.> it just doesnt follow the original plan. but the elites are just brainwashed, so that gives way to the alliance.

does anyone think that the hunters and/or grunts will follow the elites disbandment from the covenant?

p.s.............any tips on beating the game on heroic and legendary if normal is getting easy? X_X

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  • 11.30.2004 1:12 PM PDT
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I think they should keep the covs in, people dont hold it against the germans for starting a world war (twice). taking out the covernant would be classic american story. the story is about saving all life in space and having it so the humans do it by them selves is abit self rightous. just like war films where the usa saves the day (yer right).
keep the covs in, i think the humans would need them.

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  • 11.30.2004 1:23 PM PDT
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ROFL!!! nice comparison! XD no really.... im not kidding. any1 tell me if u know wat these (>.> v.v ^^; XD X_X) mean. i'll be shocked.... anywho.. if they covenant were taken out of the picture, then it just wouldnt be Halo. bungie's not stupid enough to do that. any1 on this forum... just call me Mr. Off Topic

any1 know wat ragnarok online is??? X_X

  • 11.30.2004 1:31 PM PDT

Posted by: THE LGS
I think they should keep the covs in, people dont hold it against the germans for starting a world war (twice). taking out the covernant would be classic american story. the story is about saving all life in space and having it so the humans do it by them selves is abit self rightous. just like war films where the usa saves the day (yer right).
keep the covs in, i think the humans would need them.



We as americans dont hold to much resentment towards the Germans, go to Europe though and you'll soon find that alot of people over there are still sore...Also, alot of people in America still dont like the Japanesse..

Anyway, way off topic... nobody said that all of the Covenant should disappear during the game, but that at the end the Covenant beleifs, and their overall society, should be destroyed...which is exactly what happened to Germany and Japan after WWII

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  • 11.30.2004 2:04 PM PDT
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Man you should read the books and if you did you should read them again more carefully because you are missing alot if you think some covenant is cooler than any human being

  • 11.30.2004 2:25 PM PDT
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i think for the covenant to fall, only the prophets and brutes would need to die, the elites are starting to rebel against the prophets and brutes. So once they fall, the covenant would fall apart and become as they once were.

  • 11.30.2004 2:25 PM PDT
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Ya about that whole arbiter thingy you said... there main goal is not to destroy the humans.. The humans are just in there way of there main goal "the great journey" thats why the covanent came to reach, and other human planets. that why they are coming to earth becaause the "ark" is on earth. Thats why in the game the covanent had such a small fleet that first arrived at earth. they werent there for use, they didnt even know we were on earth. it just so happens that all of the planets that the humans colonize just happen to be the places where forerunner artifacts that are important to the covanent are. i say keep the arbiter. and one more thing that i think need to be changed about halo 2. GET BETTER HUMAN WEAPONS. i mean nowadays with our modern tech. we have sniper rifles that fire a 25mm "cargo" round that has a 5 round clip. that is way better then the sniper rifle that is used in the game. and bungie needs to get some LMG "light machine guns" something like the M-249 or the M-60 that our troops use now-a-days. so the guy hat makes the gunners for halo should get some better ideas from that weaopns we have today.

  • 11.30.2004 2:27 PM PDT
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i agree with the bosses being takem out it was just dumb fighting the prophet you had to punch him to death how dumb is that but i think the abiter deserves to stay because i think it is leading up to an alliance between the humans and elites in halo 3 this will aid the humans in retakeing the colineys lost to the covanant and to finnaly break the covanant because without the elits (and hunters because they only take orders from elites) the covanant will be severly weakened and in dissarray devide and conquer

  • 11.30.2004 2:36 PM PDT
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yea, the books do help with covenant ideas, but i think the second book is more tuned to the covenant story. just a suggestion. but i still say elites are cooler than chief.

"When you joined the Covenant, you made an oath."
"On the blood of our fathers, on the blood of our sons."
"And continue our march to glorious salvation!"
-Elite Commander (In white) in the video of the first Arbiter level
(Same person cause i cant remember the whole thing by heart^^;)

  • 11.30.2004 2:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: lplad
i agree with the bosses being takem out it was just dumb fighting the prophet you had to punch him to death how dumb is that but i think the abiter deserves to stay because i think it is leading up to an alliance between the humans and elites in halo 3 this will aid the humans in retakeing the colineys lost to the covanant and to finnaly break the covanant because without the elits (and hunters because they only take orders from elites) the covanant will be severly weakened and in dissarray devide and conquer


the chief is a cool character, but elites rule, and grunts are just like me!! XD

  • 11.30.2004 2:46 PM PDT

btw, Angel, there are tips all over the place on how to beat the game on legendary..look over in New Mombasa..

  • 11.30.2004 2:59 PM PDT
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thx dude, this dam dial up keeps me from exploring this site v.v highspeedless till january time ><

  • 11.30.2004 3:07 PM PDT
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I heard Bungie made the cut scenes in HALO2 'In Game' becasue it let it have no load times in between levels. I personally had no problem waiting for the individual levels to load in HALO1. In fact I thought it gave you a break and let you know you were entering a new level. I would sacrifice load times for Beautiful cinematics.

  • 11.30.2004 3:10 PM PDT
Subject: What should be kept, and lost, for the Halo series..
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Controverial, and of the wall i like it but the arbiter rocks its forms and alliance for humans.(honestly we would have got creamed eventually, as a human i no our strengths and weaknesses) The chief killed thousands of Covies too. It adds a great twist to the story and gives it to you from another angle. I respect your opinion but did you not see the ending a huge big mutha of a Cov. ship just approached earth we are definately going to need the Elites help.

  • 11.30.2004 3:20 PM PDT


Posted by: Coral Snake
Controverial, and of the wall i like it but the arbiter rocks its forms and alliance for humans.(honestly we would have got creamed eventually, as a human i no our strengths and weaknesses) The chief killed thousands of Covies too. It adds a great twist to the story and gives it to you from another angle. I respect your opinion but did you not see the ending a huge big mutha of a Cov. ship just approached earth we are definately going to need the Elites help.


I respect what your trying to say, but thats mainly because i cant really make out what your trying to say...

  • 11.30.2004 3:24 PM PDT
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i have a feeling that the covenant will break up into two groups the heratics and the guys to follow the prophets. No atter what the arbiter wil lnot be able to convince all of the covenant that their beleifs have been all a lie.

Also i was not a fan of the boss fights i have to agree with you there halo managed just fine without them and i felt it dragged down the game play in halo 2.

and what excatly is an instant kill zone? i wasnt even aware of their excistance.

Also the streaming cinematics piss me off it completly drags away from the immersion of the story when all the textures take 5 seconds to load up and i just bought a new x box.

  • 11.30.2004 3:27 PM PDT

Posted by: Raven5326
i have a feeling that the covenant will break up into two groups the heratics and the guys to follow the prophets. No atter what the arbiter wil lnot be able to convince all of the covenant that their beleifs have been all a lie.

Also i was not a fan of the boss fights i have to agree with you there halo managed just fine without them and i felt it dragged down the game play in halo 2.

and what excatly is an instant kill zone? i wasnt even aware of their excistance.

Also the streaming cinematics piss me off it completly drags away from the immersion of the story when all the textures take 5 seconds to load up and i just bought a new x box.



An instant kill zone is something you would run itno only if you are exploring maps...You know how in Halo 1 you could go pretty much anywhere, well in Halo 2 you cant because if you try you automaticaly die. It's an explorer thing...

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  • 11.30.2004 3:30 PM PDT
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I hope the covenant break into the two groups cause that means more brutes, for harder difficulty

for those of u w/ msn, give me an MSN msg sometime, my friends on it dont go on it anymore (not cause of me >.>) just because they hated it. and the rest are always on rag>< just to make me mad

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  • 11.30.2004 5:51 PM PDT
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GET RID OF THE BOSSES IT MAKES HALO LIKE ANY OTHER FPS

GET RID OF THE RIDING UP WHEN FIRING THE SMG MASTER CHIEF SHOULD BE ABLE TO HOLD A GUN STEADY IF HE CAN FLIP A 66 TON TANK

GET RID OF THE ARBITER HE WAS FUN TO PLAY AS BUT MASTER CHIEF IS THE MAIN CHARACTER AND HE SHOULD STAY THE MAIN CHARACTER

BRING BACK THE OLD MAPS FROM HALE CE AND HALO PC/MAC

PUT THE FRC IN MULTIPLAYER

BRING BACK THE SIMPLICITY AND ORIGINAL FEELING OF HALO CE. THE REASON IT WAS SO FUN IS BECUASE IT WAS SIMPLE AND ORIGINAL. HALO 2 DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME FEELING AS HALO CE AND BECUASE OF THIS HALO 2 IS MORE LIKE ALL THE OTHER FPS'S OUT THERE AND THIS IS BAD

  • 11.30.2004 6:03 PM PDT
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ONE MORE THING TO ADD TO MY CAPS MADNESS

BRING BACK THE OLD LEGENDARY WHERE THE ENEMY BECOMES MORE POWERFUL AND LARGER IN NUMBERS INSTEAD OF YOU BECOMING WEAKER

  • 11.30.2004 6:04 PM PDT
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other than those problems HALO 2 KICKS MAJOR A$$

  • 11.30.2004 6:06 PM PDT

All good points, but watch the caps madness..

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also I know I don't work for Bungie so I can't really do anything but hopefully some of my wishes for the next halo will be fulfilled

What I am trying to say is don't start saying why I am wrong becuase these our my opinions and it is what I wish to see in the future of Halo

  • 11.30.2004 6:18 PM PDT
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EVEN THOUGH HALO IS SUPOSED TO DESTROY THE FLOOD, I HATE THE FLOOD, THEY ARE ANNOYING, "SCARY", AND SHOULD NOT HAVE COME BACK IN HALO 2!

I know this is really kind of ignorant to say the the flood should not have come back and should be discontinued but i cant stand them, i have played every level 2+ times except those with the flood in them. In the morning of Nov. 9, i played in my dark basement the arbiter level, and once i saw the sentinals i got a little annoyed because those usually mean flood, and then when i got to the flood, i imediatly turned my xbox off and went to bed thouroughly disapointed. Does anyone agree with me?

  • 11.30.2004 6:35 PM PDT
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I agree with, i tried a good 4 times on the first flood part on that slow elevator, on normal. but i recomend the sword for those kind of flood battles and in large fields, for u, use the arbiters camo and run like hell to where u need to be. im the same as u. lol, did u beat the game yet anyways?

  • 11.30.2004 6:49 PM PDT

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