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Subject: New Spartans- A NEW thread...Worth Your Time
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I think he was too, because it is implied but not directly stated, but that is only to the best of my knowledge

  • 06.03.2004 11:44 AM PDT
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I think he was too, because it is implied but not directly stated, but that is only to the best of my knowledge

  • 06.03.2004 11:46 AM PDT
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I think Dr. Halsey going out and looking for a new halo is completely an insane idea! Space is infinite the chances of her finding one are pretty darn slim. And if you read all the books it does say that spartan 1 are ones from greece (deja tells em) and spartan IIIs??? No one says anything about more spartans then the first, they cloned them and they all died remember? But the Dr.Halsey theory of goin to find the flood is the best one yet...i dont understand why she took kelly tho, she wasnt in fighting condition anyway.

  • 06.03.2004 11:54 AM PDT
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guilty spark is still alive right? i dont think he is a forerunner tho the forerunners made him. Somesay the forrunners decended from the humans

ps if i posted this same thing twice sry. somethn went weird with the forums

  • 06.03.2004 11:57 AM PDT
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DID you see the robot theory, that Spartan3s are robots?

  • 06.03.2004 12:02 PM PDT
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Sigma Octanis was glassed. Nice idea though
Posted by: xcalibro
i only own first strike i have orderd the others tough but it is almost 4 months ago that i red the book. So my theorie leads to another dead end. sorry


news flash in my topic about planet glassing some one mentioned the planet Sigma Octanus. could this be where the other spartans are. (The onley planned that is not glassed?).

  • 06.03.2004 12:13 PM PDT
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Not nessesarily. If it doesnt explicitly spell it out, dont take it as fact

  • 06.03.2004 1:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: Diomedes
...it does say that spartan 1 are ones from greece (deja tells em)...

Thank you for finally acknowledging the fact that you read my post!

  • 06.03.2004 5:16 PM PDT
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I agree with you that the forerunners are decendants of humans
1. 343 GS during the maw he downloads the PoA's computer chip and says it is great to catch up on "our" missing history hinting that since he was built by the forerunners he considers himself on and he says that to master chief hinting he is a forrunner and our history is the forrunners history.
2. the forrunners are dead, if so the prophets know they are not gods(gods cant die) just a powerful race of aliens. If the fore runners are decendants of us then the prophets would what to stop us from becoming the powerful race of aliens that controled them. Isn't the reason the covenant attacked us because the prophets ordered the rest of the aliens to do so

3. Also what if when we defeat the covenant we go to the world the prophets lived on with the fore runners and try to uncover our past. In doing so we release something . the something that destroyed the fore runners We dont know for sure the flood killed the fore runners. This could be Halo 3

  • 06.03.2004 7:05 PM PDT
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Wow!! Nice halo 3 idea. Blindsided me like a flood tentacle on legendary. Sounds like a bungie thing to do, have us win, only to fight another war

  • 06.03.2004 7:07 PM PDT
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is possible

  • 06.03.2004 7:21 PM PDT
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Thankyou, i did have a good first day

Posted by: AceofSpades15
I agree with you that the forerunners are decendants of humans
1. 343 GS during the maw he downloads the PoA's computer chip and says it is great to catch up on "our" missing history hinting that since he was built by the forerunners he considers himself on and he says that to master chief hinting he is a forrunner and our history is the forrunners history.
2. the forrunners are dead,


343GS says "you cant imagine how exciting this is, to have a record of all of our lost time"
this implies that he was made by humans, not that humans are desendants of forerunners...
also... who says the forerunners are dead

  • 06.03.2004 10:00 PM PDT
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I thought it was lost ties not time

  • 06.03.2004 10:10 PM PDT
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On the matter of Spartan-I:
If Deja did in fact specifically say that the original Spartans of Greece where Spartan-I, then I submit, and just apologize for not remembering. I think though, if I recall correctly that all she says were that the FIRST SPARTANS were the ones from Greece, not necessarily the Spartan-I. I dunno, I just theorize that if there were in fact Spartan-IIs there should be an originating group of Spartan-Is, not of originating Ancient Greece. Who knows, I could be wrong, I don't concede, but I do admit I'm not 100% positive.

Secondly on the matter of 343 Guilty Spark and the Forerunner:
I bring back to my earlier post about the idea of the reclaimer and "our history." I don't believe that the Forerunner are directly descending of humans, unless there's some sort of time warp that Bungie does in the Halo timeline which they haven't released yet. (Something about this reminds me of the Marathon games...). Anyway, I think though that the Forerunner were a humanoid race (2 legs, 2 arms, 1 head), and that John is mistaken to be a reclaimer due not to his outer looks but his genetic makeup. Think about it, John's body chemistry was far more advanced then others thanks to bioengineering (which goes again into my theory of Mobuto and his being a Spartan-I). Maybe his body chemistry reminded 343 GS of a Forerunner. Let's also point out that after being ALONE for 100,000 years, his sanity has slipped quite exponentially. He takes on a very human intelligence in that his sanity lies within balance. When he says that he reclaimed all of "our lost history" from the databanks of the Pillar of Autumn, it doesnt necessarily mean WE'RE the Forerunner, it just means that he mistook us to be Forerunner.

On Dr. Halsey;
Yea, lately I'm leaning more and more to her going to a Halo ring herself, somethings to note: Why would she bring Kelly? Of course because Kelly is a Spartan, she's the only person that could accomplish this task. "Kelly's not battle ready" someone said- actually she was pretty fine, and didn't feel like getting that last shot that Dr. Halsey had because she felt so fine. In addition, anything that hasn't been fixed could be fixed by Dr. Halsey by the time they get to their destination.

Those are my thoughts.

  • 06.03.2004 10:54 PM PDT
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interresting........

  • 06.04.2004 12:30 AM PDT
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as i proposed... Hasely might have listened to all of what John said, and went to find the class 12 armor... which is 6 times stronger than Mjolnir... or it could be that william dietz just added that for no reason or purpose

  • 06.04.2004 2:58 PM PDT
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If you mean the armor was for no reason...it was mentioned in the game (not directly)
343 GS said something about the humans having terribly inadequate resourses to battle the Flood.

  • 06.04.2004 3:53 PM PDT
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wow i have the halo book the FLOOD but is first strike the first one in the seris? thanks.

  • 06.05.2004 12:40 AM PDT
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what if 343 is a forerunner but set his mind in that round form. Or he is one of the first humans found by the forerunners and was made to watch over halo

  • 06.05.2004 11:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: neophoebus
Excellent point by rebelforce but seriously can you imagine it? Kelly and John sittin in a tree, kissing...

Im sorry I couldnt help it. it sipped. Honestly!


Hahaha, okay here's mine:

MC says to Kelly while in a bed "Honey, it's time to make Baby Spartans, and I'm gonna Butter your Bread."
Kelly says to MC "Mmm, sounds good Baby."

  • 06.05.2004 12:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: REprpEzekiel
I think that I should start reading the Halo books. You guys post very interesting theories indeed. Unfortunately I cannot comment on them.
For the mating part. I think that it is impossible for the Spartans to have offspring. First of all, it would be difficult to get a Spartan to "mate" and secondly, supposing the Spartan did have -blam!- intercourse, the offspring would be most likely be mentally retarded or physically damaged. This would be a result of the alternated Genes in the Spartans. I don't know how familiar everybody is with genes, but there might be quite weird combinations, leading to such mental deficits. Another thing, how would the child grow up?

Sorry if I'm going off topic, but this is quite interesting to ponder about.

I strongly disagree with u because the genes have been altered but they are not deficient. The modifications done to the spartans made them more advanced than any other human. The stuff they used (I can't remember what its called) was just not very safe and killed several spartans I think it would be possible to have children with the spartans. Without mental retardation and physical deformity. Those illnesses are from wrong amounts of chromozomes, the spartans have normal chromozomes as far as I'm concerned, but I think in the books that the bio infusions that they recieved rewrote there dna. Seems like its barely different, like that they will just have more advanced children. (when I say advanced I mean like the spartans wore in their youth, perfect physical specimens).

  • 06.05.2004 12:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: haloruler33
No. It says that-that particular Longsword doesnt have the slipspace drive. I think other Longswords do, just that certain one didnt. Ummm......I think some Pelicans have it to. It seems likely she took on of those, and both are slipspace capable.

Uh no. U might want to read the books again because the longswords don't have slipspace capabilities they don't have the fujikawa drive in them. The pelicans don't either. But the the old pelicans do. That is what dr halsey took from the asteroid base. I don't like the stupid mating theory, I was just trying to shove back into teh ground.

  • 06.05.2004 12:12 PM PDT
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Teh Sex "Mating" Theory.....Holy Crabcakes Batman!!
I like it...;)

  • 06.05.2004 12:22 PM PDT
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First off, the theory of humans being descendants from the forerunners sounds like bs to me. The prophets originated off the planet the forerunners were from, from that statement right there the theory is almost all but gone, secondly in the book it explains the covenant did not know of humans until out paths crossed when humans started exploring outside the solar system meaning it was only a matter of time til they found out about us. Enough said about that, so also about dr. Halsey going to find another halo ring. Can anyone tell me why the blam someone do that. She has no idea if there is even another ring. Or where its at. Or whats on it if it does exist. I think she is going to the planet with the spartan 3's. That seems to be the only reason. I did shortly consider going back to reach but remembered its only going to be there fore about like a couple more hours ( I thought she might have had unfinished business but too many covenant there shot that down too). Pretty much every idea including this one is very rough and needs to be evaluated better.

  • 06.05.2004 1:20 PM PDT

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