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Recon Number 54
Posted by: Halo117
First off, I was very well aware of button glitching, and believe me its an endless complaint of mine. But to get back to the general disadvantages of connection quality... Your link was very helpfull, it gave me an 84 RTT, which by your definition should be okay. This leaves the question of why I always find myself in the situations where my activities simply do not work. I do infact have two computers running off the connection, but neither computer engages in activity while I play. Is the only solution, then, to just dump the comps and plug straight into my Xbox? Should that really prevent all the ridiculous disadvantages everyone here agrees on? I'm here for answers, and I hope everyone who shares our problem can find them too.
A big thanks to B3OWULF, you're being extremely helpfull!
Good, so you've eliminated the RTT -- you've got a decent result. You didn't mention your Max Pause, is that also within acceptable ranges?
I use a dedicated modem just for my 360, but that's probably not necessary for you as long as your computer(s) isn't in use while you play. Next time you're on XBL and notice the symptoms you described, check out the green bars next to your gamertag. Even if you're mostly green but missing one bar, that's enough to give you gameplay problems. Oftentimes, this is simply a reflection of the other team having host, and you have a few server hops to get to host's IP. Generally speaking, the closer you are to a metropolitan hub, and the closer the host is to a metropolitan hub, the better the game conditions will be.
It's possible you may have to tweak your modem (MTU) or router (NAT settings). If there's a firewall in the router, it may be influencing the data transmission in and/or out. I'm not an expert in this area -- check this article for more information.
If all else fails, take heart, because H3 is just around the corner. I'm not sure how Bungie did it, but there is very little connection superiority in MM. H2 has a slight amount of lag built into the game to account for connection differences, and it's possible that H3 is designed with a bit more...but don't quote me.
Posted by: Malign Ghost
Hey B3OWULF, I tried that quality test several times and added it to my favorites. I am happy to say that I consistantly have a 32 ms round trip and an average service quality of 97% with Comcast as my ISP. Thank you so much for supplying such a wonderful tool, it is much appreciated. However, I have also experianced the same problems that Halo117 and the other commenters have described. Is it just other people's garbage hosts, have we all angered various omnipotent forces in this universe, or what?
Glad that you found InternetFrog helpful, and congratulations on your great connection! I'm guessing that you're just victim of other hosts. Again, like I mentioned above, the distance either you or the host machine is from a metropolitan hub will increase gameplay problems. Since you've got a phenomenal RTT, the problem is probably on host end. I would think you would be awarded host fairly often with such a great line?
It's always amazing to me how those with great connections (as well as the friends they team up with -- even more of an advantage there) don't understand how much that improves their gaming. They think that a poor connection is like what they experience when they're not host, and nothing more. Those of us with problems know that it goes a lot further than that! You've got a great connection, but something needs tweaking maybe to get you beyond the weird gameplay issues so that your level truly reflects your skill. Take that level 40 gamer and put him alone in MM (and don't allow glitching, etc.), and his results will be much different! I can just this week begin using the plasma pistol, that I've never before been able to use in MM. It used to fly off into space with a mind of its own, instead of tracking and hitting the target. And sometimes I'd unload an entire clip from the BR and not take down an opponent. Etc., etc., ad nauseum... This because I upgraded my service from BellSouth/AT&T Ultra (1.5Mbps) to Extreme (3.0Mbps). My RTTs are now 78ms, but Max Pause is not much improved (they tell me they're working on it), ranging between 300 and 1100ms. The average range is lower than before, though, so it's a definite improvement.
I know there are those who will flame me, but I'm convinced that once a player reaches a certain skill set in Halo, there are no other significant skills to continue leveling higher. The only difference between a level 25 and a 35 (minus team advantages) IMHO, is connection superiority.
[Edited on 08.29.2007 8:08 AM PDT]