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Subject: Do Glitches such as the BXR ruin your online experience?
Poll: Do "Fair" Glitches Ruin Halo 2?  [closed]
Yes:  73%
(40 Votes)
No:  27%
(15 Votes)
Total Votes: 55

I've met someone on another forum who claims that using a glitch such as a BXR or double shot in online games like Halo 2 ruins the gaming experience for other people. We're not talking about super jumping or modding of any kind, just simple glitches from pressing button combinations. I'm curious, has anyone had their online experience ruined by these glitches?

[Edited on 08.30.2007 11:16 AM PDT]

  • 08.30.2007 11:02 AM PDT
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yes, its such a pain in the ass ot have a superior weapon (letsuse shogun in a closequarters situation for example)... you see a guy running aroun some corners and you attempt to anticipate his path and counter the other way... the guy comes arond and bxr's you killing youinstantly when it SHOULD at MOT have been a BR shot and a hit before yourshotgun blows a hole in his chest...


-blam!- like that is so annoying... i hold BXR on the same level as standbying bridging ect ect

[Edited on 08.30.2007 11:27 AM PDT]

  • 08.30.2007 11:27 AM PDT

Well prepare for
1. lots of flaming and an argument that is never ending
2. This topic to get locked
3. someone getting their panties in a wad over it.

Do a forum search. millions of topics like this.

Personally if someone does BXR to me i do it back. most of the time though i just do BXB. im not consistent enough with RRX to risk losing a BR battle by not hitting it right

  • 08.30.2007 11:27 AM PDT

button glitching doesnt ruin gameplay, but it changes it from one form to another, from a type that alot of people enjoyed to a type that alot of people hated and stopped them from playing halo. it takes alot of fun aspects out of the game, you used to get loads of people in unranked matches that just used to play about and have fun, now you just get people who just want to play and practice their glitches, it just stops everyone from having fun if after evey corner they turn they get BXRed, then within 20 secs from the end of the game, someone who is in second third or last place decides to quit for the sake of it and send the rest of the players into blue screen, halo 2 is not a fun game anymore, you cant play matchmaking without being able to use button glitches, coming up against alot of people who downleveled/ have new accounts. or get cheated on. in unranked all people do is practice their glitches or quit if something goes partially wrong. or you go into a custom game, sure custom games can be fun, but you always get the imature young person who breaks all th honor rules eg not changing green in zombies, killing in glitch games etc.

all in all, button glitching doesnt ruin gameplay but changes it, button glitching does ruin alot of people fun though

  • 08.30.2007 11:56 AM PDT
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Button combo's ruin gameplay because not every one knows about them or can do them. Now days in halo if you cant a BXR then people say your bad. When in reality it takes no skill to press B then XR .

  • 08.30.2007 12:02 PM PDT
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Meh, well everyone seems to be doing it now adays. Even I do, but I'm not ashamed. I wholeheartedly believe that if Bungie wasn't careful enough to fix the glitches prior to the release then I have a right to use them.

  • 08.30.2007 12:18 PM PDT

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Those are not fair glitches. There is no such thing

  • 08.30.2007 12:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: baccardinals
Those are not fair glitches. There is no such thing

  • 08.30.2007 12:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: baccardinals
Those are not fair glitches. There is no such thing

  • 08.30.2007 1:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: Captain Ham
yes, its such a pain in the ass ot have a superior weapon (letsuse shogun in a closequarters situation for example)... you see a guy running aroun some corners and you attempt to anticipate his path and counter the other way... the guy comes arond and bxr's you killing youinstantly when it SHOULD at MOT have been a BR shot and a hit before yourshotgun blows a hole in his chest...


-blam!- like that is so annoying... i hold BXR on the same level as standbying bridging ect ect
he said fair glitch like super jumps in non competitive games i assume

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Posted by: fiagra
Button combo's ruin gameplay because not every one knows about them or can do them. Now days in halo if you cant a BXR then people say your bad. When in reality it takes no skill to press B then XR .
if it takes no skill and people cant do it their obviously baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad

  • 08.30.2007 1:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: fiagra
Button combo's ruin gameplay because not every one knows about them or can do them. Now days in halo if you cant a BXR then people say your bad. When in reality it takes no skill to press B then XR .


That's a poor argument. There's a lot of things not everyone knows about. Fact is everyone CAN do them. So in all honesty, host grenade jumping is more unfair than button glitching, is it not.

Too many people overrate button glitches. they think they give some huge advantage. I'll tell you something, they don't. They're easily counterable, and won't win you any games. Unless you claw, they both take away your ability to aim. All the glitches have advantages, and but also have a price. If you just have a good strafe, and avoid my doubleshot, then YOU just gained the advantage over ME.

People say they take no skill, which is false. Sure BXR isn't hard, but knowing situations to use it take practice. I love just walking backwards and 4 shotting kids as they desperately try to get in range. you have to have good reflexes to round a corner and see someone there, and pull of a BXR with a headshot. BXR is only useful in a small number of situations, so its not really a gamebreaker.

  • 08.30.2007 2:11 PM PDT

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  • 08.30.2007 2:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: FKxPandemic

That's a poor argument. There's a lot of things not everyone knows about. Fact is everyone CAN do them. So in all honesty, host grenade jumping is more unfair than button glitching, is it not.

Too many people overrate button glitches. they think they give some huge advantage. I'll tell you something, they don't. They're easily counterable, and won't win you any games. Unless you claw, they both take away your ability to aim. All the glitches have advantages, and but also have a price. If you just have a good strafe, and avoid my doubleshot, then YOU just gained the advantage over ME.

People say they take no skill, which is false. Sure BXR isn't hard, but knowing situations to use it take practice. I love just walking backwards and 4 shotting kids as they desperately try to get in range. you have to have good reflexes to round a corner and see someone there, and pull of a BXR with a headshot. BXR is only useful in a small number of situations, so its not really a gamebreaker.



Double shot isn't hard to aim if you claw. Any one can BXR ,but not every one can double shot. Kinda posted quickly :P. Grenade just in both an advantage and a disadvantage.

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  • 08.30.2007 2:24 PM PDT
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I have. I took a short break from halo when i went to corpus to my brothers house to louisiana and couldnt get on. When i got back it seemed like everyone in matchmaking used the double shot. I was like wtf u glitcher

  • 08.30.2007 2:36 PM PDT
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QFT

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Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: fiagra
Button combo's ruin gameplay because not every one knows about them or can do them. Now days in halo if you cant a BXR then people say your bad. When in reality it takes no skill to press B then XR .


That's a poor argument. There's a lot of things not everyone knows about. Fact is everyone CAN do them. So in all honesty, host grenade jumping is more unfair than button glitching, is it not.

Too many people overrate button glitches. they think they give some huge advantage. I'll tell you something, they don't. They're easily counterable, and won't win you any games. Unless you claw, they both take away your ability to aim. All the glitches have advantages, and but also have a price. If you just have a good strafe, and avoid my doubleshot, then YOU just gained the advantage over ME.

People say they take no skill, which is false. Sure BXR isn't hard, but knowing situations to use it take practice. I love just walking backwards and 4 shotting kids as they desperately try to get in range. you have to have good reflexes to round a corner and see someone there, and pull of a BXR with a headshot. BXR is only useful in a small number of situations, so its not really a gamebreaker.


Sorry bout the dbl post. QFT

  • 08.30.2007 2:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: fiagra
Button combo's ruin gameplay because not every one knows about them or can do them. Now days in halo if you cant a BXR then people say your bad. When in reality it takes no skill to press B then XR .


That's a poor argument. There's a lot of things not everyone knows about. Fact is everyone CAN do them. So in all honesty, host grenade jumping is more unfair than button glitching, is it not.

Too many people overrate button glitches. they think they give some huge advantage. I'll tell you something, they don't. They're easily counterable, and won't win you any games. Unless you claw, they both take away your ability to aim. All the glitches have advantages, and but also have a price. If you just have a good strafe, and avoid my doubleshot, then YOU just gained the advantage over ME.

People say they take no skill, which is false. Sure BXR isn't hard, but knowing situations to use it take practice. I love just walking backwards and 4 shotting kids as they desperately try to get in range. you have to have good reflexes to round a corner and see someone there, and pull of a BXR with a headshot. BXR is only useful in a small number of situations, so its not really a gamebreaker.


Exactly, I rarely, if ever button glitch. I can but I just dont have the need. I am very supportive of button glitches because I do see how they change the dynamics of the game and make it far more competetive. There is one problem with button glitches, however. When people start to rely on button glitches to get them out of situations, they lose sight of why they had to do the button glitch in the first place. Using glitches gives you a "free out" card to get out of a bad situation that was caused by some poor decision made by either you or your teammate. Again, I fully advocate their uses, its just that I want everyone to understand when and how they should be used in order to maximize performance.

  • 08.30.2007 2:42 PM PDT

Halo 2 is better

Everyone is able to use these 'Glitches' or button combos so i don't see why it should ruin an experience for a player. However i can see how some players may feel they are being cheated out of a so called 'fair' game. At the end of the day every player has these Glitches available to them at the press of a button, it all comes down to the player who is carry them out.

  • 08.30.2007 2:47 PM PDT

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i know this answer isn't going to be that popular, but i reckon ANY glitch is unfair, you say it gives you an outcard for getting out of a situation you put yourself in by making a stupid decision. you made the decision you die thats the way it goes, people can justify them all they want but being a glitch by nature makes them unfair and gives unfair advantages to the user.

yes fair enough do them in customs but in ranked games it leads to other weapons that could normally be used in situations becoming obsolete by a mid range weapon.

and by "justifying" glitches it is supporting glitches and cheaters of every kind, superjumping, button glitches standbying i don't care in my opinion anyone who uses them should take a step back and take a look at what they've become. exploiting glitches to win a "GAME".

say what you want about me, call me a crap player i refuse to use glitches to give me an advantage in ranked games. (yes if there is a custom where people are messing around with them i wont complain and will occasionally join in but i don't justify there use) all i want is to have a fair, fun game using my own abilities to enjoy my afternoons.

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Button glitches take balance out of the game. The BR becomes a close range weapon and a two shot kill wepaon if they can quad shot. (RRX YY RRX)

I never button glitch and I believe that "good" players don't have to use them because there are other ways of killing people. Grenades, Beatdown, etc.

  • 08.30.2007 3:01 PM PDT

rofl, i was in the middle of killing someone in double team oddball on sanctuary and i jumped off of one of the ledges and accidentally superbounced out of the map, i didnt have the ball though, but it was quite funny superbouncing in the middle of a fight and going like 100 feet in the air, so basically the glitch just ruined my game, i had no grenades to kill myself with and i couldnt get back down

edit: this game i had was just this second, i dont know how to do any superbounced on sanctuary and never heard of people doing it in the spot i landed in to perforn the bounce

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It ruined my online experience.

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