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wow. my last post was closed......... ppl button glitches in games are not considered cheating.
i have been offline xbl since May because my box is dead.
ppl that can't do glitches get upset and then get pissed off.
its not cheating why doesn't bungie dish out another bull-blam!- update to change this??
because it is used by so many
if it's in the game it is not CHEATING it's a design flaw
using dbl shot controllers is cheating but you can't discern between the good ppl who can dbl shot than ppl who cheat.
i can't wait to see what these fukers find to complain about halo 3
i personally think the newb combo is cheating...but it's in the game so i don't get so fukin po'd
let's put it this way i don't see ppl with really immature gamertags being banned or forced to change
oh and he's not banned that was only a "warning"
what happened? it used to be if you could dbl shoot and bxr you were good
now though you'd be considered a cheater?
or how about this what if xbl suddenly disappeared?


  • 08.31.2007 4:56 PM PDT
Subject: button glitches
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No button glitching discussions.

Your last post got locked for that.

They are cheating, just not on the same level to some people.

  • 08.31.2007 4:58 PM PDT
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They are cheating, deal with it.

  • 08.31.2007 5:01 PM PDT
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so what can i do.....let's stick to the never ending br fights
and try to avoid the newb combo
or catch a rocket
or the occasional superbounce

all i want to know is what happened?

  • 08.31.2007 5:01 PM PDT
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oh and the dangerous sword......
forgot that one

  • 08.31.2007 5:04 PM PDT
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Sword: How to dodge: Lunge to the side of the hand its in. Works in open spaces.
Noob combo: Its not as big of a deal as you think
BXR: isnt worth complaining about

  • 08.31.2007 5:07 PM PDT
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personally i think halo3 is going to be the best.
but ppl who constantly try to get you banned because of a button glitch
or ppl who think they control the rules (except for bungie they control the rules)
may make it less fun to play.

  • 08.31.2007 5:08 PM PDT
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"newb combo isn't a problem"
i don't know about that....why don't you go on xbl and play double team on beaver creek you get the best EDIT or any double team
rockets os newb only thing missing is sword

EDIT i only want to know why discussion of button glitches became non discussionable
was it because of ppl complainin to big brother about the "problem"
WHy is it cheating?
don't say because its cheating if i got a phone call from bungie and they said to me "it's cheating" i'd believe them. but why then is it still in the game?

EDIT oh and is it cheating in mlg to dbl shoot or bxr......NO
it's actually encouraged.


EDIT i'm trying to get all my points in before the thread is closed
i think i did

EDIT i don't care if this one gets closed because i actually got a chance to reply
MY MAIN point is if bungie doesn't consider it cheating who then has the authority to call it cheating?

[Edited on 08.31.2007 5:23 PM PDT]

  • 08.31.2007 5:10 PM PDT
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Grammar and spelling.....

I did play DT. Apparently someone didnt check my other file.

  • 08.31.2007 5:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: troy441992
Button Glitches aren't cheating. They are part of the game

Who told you that?

  • 08.31.2007 5:16 PM PDT
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the fact that "it's in the game"
that part
oh and no one told him that
just like no one from bungie said button glitches are cheating either!

  • 08.31.2007 5:20 PM PDT
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Achronos did...

  • 08.31.2007 5:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
1. Yes, exploiting a glitch is cheating in matchmaking, and no, I don't care that MLG players use the button combos. They're still glitches.
2. Of course, that being said, the mechanism by which such cheating is reported is through the Xbox Live feedback mechanism. Since the players you're playing against would be the ones reporting you, if the players don't care that you're using it, then you have nothing to worry about. If, as you say, "everybody at my level is doing it", then I guess it won't matter, will it?
3. I suggest not using the argument about you being blamed for our bugs. I'm not blaming you for our bugs. I'm blaming you for using them. There is no difference between deliberately superjumping and deliberately interrupting an animation with your button combo. I've read all your arguments, and none of them address the fact that you are exploiting a bug for your advantage. You simply try to justify yourself.
4. Finally, to answer your question on who is playtesting Halo 3 for balance: gnomes. Underpants gnomes.
5. If you think that last answer was silly, that was deliberate - as the question itself lacks understanding of the process. There are two kinds of testing here. First, there are playtests. That's when we bring people in from all walks of life (yes, all) and instruct them to do various things in the game. It gives us insight into how various kinds of people approach a problem. We do this not only for gameplay, but for UI, among other things. There is also testing to find bugs and insure the game isn't broken in some way. These bugs can be as serious as crash bugs, to the more mundane missing texture. The people doing that are professional testers, of varying experience and game skill levels.


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  • 08.31.2007 5:33 PM PDT

RIP Halo 2.

The only reason button glitching is determined cheating is because of a small and vague clause in the XBL ToU. Under this clause, using host advantage and grenade jumping are also cheating.

  • 08.31.2007 5:34 PM PDT
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Achronos is indeed correct. It is cheating but he also said that it can't be stopped so if everyone in the game agrees on using button combos/superbounces/ect. it's okay. It is also alright in custom games so don't say MLG players are cheaters or anything because if the gametype is MLG FFA/TS/Flag/Ball/ect. be prepared to get button combo'd.

  • 08.31.2007 5:36 PM PDT
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sure it's cheating especially for noobs who dont know how to use them

i dont use them but its ovbious that someone is going to BxR when they back up reload then charge you if ure a noob who doesnt know that then learn how to play same with superjumping u only get mad cuz u cant do wat they can do vs. me 1 v 1 no gliches add me to budds cya and Sep. 25 Remember that date you wont have to worry about button gliches on halo 3 so more noobs will have a chance but that also means theyl noob-combo and use swords so u cant BxR them when they lunge you instead just run to the opposite direction of the hand they have the sword in. For anymore advice go to my live space and post on my blog

heres the link also ill give free lessons on how to not be a noob lool add me to buds oh! almost forgot heres the link http://cid-d5287142a8e60e9f.spaces.live.com/

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  • 08.31.2007 5:41 PM PDT
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ok if it's cheating then it's "cheating" and i'd like to see it disappear from the game
thank you whoever posted that comment.
host advantage is cheating wow
grenade jumping is cheating?
what will happen when halo3 comes out and no one plays halo2 but custom game modders?

why don't they delete the glitch then?
i don't think they can
because many many ppl will get mad
mlg ratings will fail when this happens
and the level of competitiveness will decline
i've always felt that bxr's and dbl shooting was part of the game and added a dynamic edge instead of very long br fights


EDIT thats why in ranked matchmaking there are no noobs at level 25 so on
competing against same level opponents is what i'm talking about.
do ppl who get up to 30 and 40 use the glitches? they sure do if there not modding standbying bridging boosting, and using the newb combo

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  • 08.31.2007 5:43 PM PDT
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Yes grenade jumping is cheating. Did you know you can get to the top of Sniper tower by grenade jumping on host? Yes. Can that be a major advantage? Yes.

What Achronos defines as cheating is having an unfair advantage over other players in the game so yes having host can be cheating if you wanna get technical.

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  • 08.31.2007 5:44 PM PDT
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both of you add me to ure budds wat i meant was that if they want to cheat it's okay cuz if ure good u should be able to counter it and if you wonder y i look like a noob if you see my lvl its beacause i dont play much matchmaking cuz i get stuck with noobs mabey you guys can go with me i should be a 23 but it reseted so see ya lets keep this chat going

  • 08.31.2007 5:48 PM PDT
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but everyone* (not timmy from south park) has the same ability to do it.

EDIT yea the reset.
that was fun
before the reset i was a 28 in snipers by my self no friends just me a matchmaking......but after
i got all the new ppl and i died a little inside

EDIT but if bungie doesn't take it out it can potentially get ppl banned from matchmaking like a common modder
that would suck alot

EDIT yes

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  • 08.31.2007 5:49 PM PDT
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Everyone can BXR as well.. yes even Timmy from South Park.

  • 08.31.2007 5:50 PM PDT
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k
want to be buds yes or no

  • 08.31.2007 5:52 PM PDT

RIP Halo 2.

Pretty much anything in halo 2 is cheating under the XBL ToU by the logic of anti-button glitchers.

I don't consider button glitching cheating because it can be done with a controller by anyone and is a skill. It's not unfair because of this. XBL ToU states "unfair advantages" are cheating, and button glitches are not unfair.

  • 08.31.2007 5:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: IIDWells55XII
Pretty much anything in halo 2 is cheating under the XBL ToU by the logic of anti-button glitchers.

I don't consider button glitching cheating because it can be done with a controller by anyone and is a skill. It's not unfair because of this. XBL ToU states "unfair advantages" are cheating, and button glitches are not unfair.

That is The Truth...

  • 08.31.2007 6:03 PM PDT

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