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It's nice to see that the hate threads are gone, and the pro threads are coming up. Because...

It's the Natural Order. yay!

  • 09.02.2007 8:26 PM PDT

Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: Stealth_1000
Hey, here is some one who doesn't think H2V is that bad, cool, I like this guy, and no dude, liking this game doesn't make you a bad person... at lest here you will not be flamed for it, I hope.
I don't mind his opinion, because it's an opinion, and everybody's entitled to one. And he's honest.

being honest is the best way to go.

  • 09.02.2007 8:33 PM PDT

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"Posted by: Master_Dragon
I like the drama.

Drama?"

Drama!

Examples:

You're playing the first mission. You hear claims of another MAC Cannon Station, the Athens, is drifting off it's boarders. You, out of interest, probably look out the window. You hear cries of elation that the Covt. are leaving, but then... *Giant Flash, followed by accurate shockwave with little/no boom noise in space*. For a first time player like me, that was: \\shockz!\\

A lot of the Halo 2 cutscenes could be stated to have high levels of drama associated with them. Most of the Arbiter ones nearer the beginning of the game especially.

You walk out of a covenent building, inside the city with High Charity. Suddenly there is a huge slipspace *crack* and you look up, In Amber Clad sails over, spins around, seems to be loosing control, and crashes in the distance.

It's not just ordinary drama, it's sci-fi drama!

And again, thanks guys. I just felt it was about time i stopped mumbling in reluctant, shallow agreement with everything the trolls had to say.

  • 09.03.2007 12:58 AM PDT

Posted by: Master_Dragon

And again, thanks guys. I just felt it was about time i stopped mumbling in reluctant, shallow agreement with everything the trolls had to say.


Its about everyone's time to stop saying that. Hopfuly this thread will stay on top for a while and more will follow.

  • 09.03.2007 6:19 AM PDT

In high definition baby!

The game is good, though it got like 7.0 something in Gametrailer. It just as not as good because it's late.

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  • 09.03.2007 6:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: Halodeth
The game is good, though it got like 7.0 something in Gametrailer. It just as not as good because it's late.
Halo 2 was great. In 2004. On the Xbox. You can't blame PC gaming editors because they see the Halo 2 port as mediocre, ugly, and boring.

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It's threads like these that make the Microsoft marketing department take a double-take on the naivety of fans of the Halo genre. This was one of the worst ports in the gaming world and no one should even think about saying "It's ok," or "It's alright," because you're showing the people who did this purely out of a marketing opportunity that they could push further Windows LIVE in its entire crap-existence to which free online play on PC gaming dies.

  • 09.03.2007 10:19 AM PDT

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ya i see what you mean there it is still a lot like xbox.when i frist played the pc version i was like wtf why does it still have the a,x,b,y buttons on there i understand you can use the controller but its not going to be the most widely used thing they should have made it more mouse and keyboard friendly

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  • 09.03.2007 10:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: Agamemnon582bc
It's threads like these that make the Microsoft marketing department take a double-take on the naivety of fans of the Halo genre.

So you're saying that if someone were to actually like the game then they're naive and stupid for doing so? I afraid not.... you're wrong. People's opinions differ on pretty much everything. Saying that people are ignorant for not hating the game as much as you do is bigotry... bigotry is bad. Though, I do agree with you in the sole fact that Windows LIVE sucks... 'cause it does.

  • 09.03.2007 10:57 AM PDT

Posted by: Agamemnon582bc
It's threads like these that make the Microsoft marketing department take a double-take on the naivety of fans of the Halo genre. This was one of the worst ports in the gaming world and no one should even think about saying "It's ok," or "It's alright," because you're showing the people who did this purely out of a marketing opportunity that they could push further Windows LIVE in its entire crap-existence to which free online play on PC gaming dies.

Agamemnon, GTFU, get off the -blam!- computer and go out side, I don't give a flaming rat's ass why you think it's the worst, and I don't give a -blam!-, I for one think it's a good game, it's not the best, but it's not the worst as well. yea so what if I'm a retard, that doesn't mean I'm a stupid dip-blam!- who has his own idea on what a good game should be like.

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Posted by: Agamemnon582bc
It's threads like these that make the Microsoft marketing department take a double-take on the naivety of fans of the Halo genre. This was one of the worst ports in the gaming world and no one should even think about saying "It's ok," or "It's alright," because you're showing the people who did this purely out of a marketing opportunity that they could push further Windows LIVE in its entire crap-existence to which free online play on PC gaming dies.
Just so you guys know, Agamemnon's not saying that it's a bad thing if you like the game. Remember old movie drive-ins where the popcorn tasted like packaging foam, the screen was blurry and out of focus, and the restroom toilets were always flooded, but you still had the time of your life?

  • 09.03.2007 12:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: Master Kim
Just so you guys know, Agamemnon's not saying that it's a bad thing if you like the game. Remember old movie drive-ins where the popcorn tasted like packaging foam, the screen was blurry and out of focus, and the restroom toilets were always flooded, but you still had the time of your life?

I didn't.

Aggy is right though. The port was much less than stellar, and microsoft trying to force Games For Windows Live on the PC market is another no go. I like Halo 2 as a game, but Hired Gun -blam!- us over with the port, however, there is still one problem, it's Halo 2. And seeing as they didn't mess with any gameplay mechanics, the enjoyment from the xbox is still there. The port itself sucks, with the crap job for Games For Windows Live, lack of new maps and weapons, bad system requirements, no effort to fix glitches, and a bad graphics update. But even with all that stacked on its shoulders, the game bungie put together is still top notch, and Halo 2 is still fun.

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i like halo 2 for vistta to its problly one of the beter games out for the pc rite now

  • 09.03.2007 2:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: Agamemnon582bc
It's threads like these that make the Microsoft marketing department take a double-take on the naivety of fans of the Halo genre.

So you're saying that if someone were to actually like the game then they're naive and stupid for doing so? I afraid not.... you're wrong. People's opinions differ on pretty much everything. Saying that people are ignorant for not hating the game as much as you do is bigotry... bigotry is bad. Though, I do agree with you in the sole fact that Windows LIVE sucks... 'cause it does.

Let's flip this. Some people find entertainment in torturing animals. Should we endorse that action? Liking this game could possibly make you a sado.masochist (Bungie.net filter for the lose), as each time you play this game and actually think you're having fun, you're probably doing the equivalent to smashing your testicles in a sliding glass door, because that's how fun and well done this port is. Yeah, people's opinions might differ, but it doesn't stop some people from being naive, ignorant, and blind, especially to a series that has such a cult following that the third game will rake in more money on the first day then even a movie in our history has on its first day.

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Posted by: Agamemnon582bc
It's threads like these that make the Microsoft marketing department take a double-take on the naivety of fans of the Halo genre. This was one of the worst ports in the gaming world and no one should even think about saying "It's ok," or "It's alright," because you're showing the people who did this purely out of a marketing opportunity that they could push further Windows LIVE in its entire crap-existence to which free online play on PC gaming dies.

Agamemnon, GTFU, get off the -blam!- computer and go out side, I don't give a flaming rat's ass why you think it's the worst, and I don't give a -blam!-, I for one think it's a good game, it's not the best, but it's not the worst as well. yea so what if I'm a retard, that doesn't mean I'm a stupid dip-blam!- who has his own idea on what a good game should be like.

I figured this was inevitable. Stealth, go grow a pair or do us all a favor and carry out what you were all promising to do. Somewhere in between there though, learn English as well.

Oh, I also believe it's "GTFO." Please do so as well. You aren't wanted anywhere you go, for you leave a trail of bile and inane statements of such dry humor that even children of your age and intelligence don't find you funny. I tried to help you in the beginning, yet you seemed impossible to understand, so it's actually best if someone took the Internet away from you for good, because you obviously do not belong here.

Posted by: fuzzy bunny
i like halo 2 for vistta to its problly one of the beter games out for the pc rite now

See? A statement like this is exactly what I'm talking about. There's more effort in Minesweeper then there is in this port.

[Edited on 09.03.2007 3:28 PM PDT]

  • 09.03.2007 3:24 PM PDT

Posted by: Agamemnon582bc
Agamemnon, GTFU, get off the -blam!- computer and go out side, I don't give a flaming rat's ass why you think it's the worst, and I don't give a -blam!-, I for one think it's a good game, it's not the best, but it's not the worst as well. yea so what if I'm a retard, that doesn't mean I'm a stupid dip-blam!- who has his own idea on what a good game should be like.[/quote]
I figured this was inevitable. Stealth, go grow a pair or do us all a favor and carry out what you were all promising to do. Somewhere in between there though, learn English as well.

Oh, I also believe it's "GTFO." Please do so as well. You aren't wanted anywhere you go, for you leave a trail of bile and inane statements of such dry humor that even children of your age and intelligence don't find you funny. I tried to help you in the beginning, yet you seemed impossible to understand, so it's actually best if someone took the Internet away from you for good, because you obviously do not belong here.

Oh, I'm scared, I think I'm going to die of fear. yea, right, you're not wanted anywhere you go, just as much as I am, Agamemnon, you've tryed to help me? bull-blam!-, I do what I like, when I like, and how I like, if you don't like it, then deal with it, some people have learned to deal with me, and others, like you, try to get me to leave, people of your kind are what makes me stay. Grow up dude, there are going to be people in your live that you just wish they'd go jump off a cliff and die, and I geuss I'm one of those guys to you, if you think the internet is for people who are jack asses, then fine, I'd like to see you try to take the internet away from me, cause last time I checked, you're not the boss of me.

  • 09.03.2007 4:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: Stealth_1000
Posted by: Agamemnon582bc
Agamemnon, GTFU, get off the -blam!- computer and go out side, I don't give a flaming rat's ass why you think it's the worst, and I don't give a -blam!-, I for one think it's a good game, it's not the best, but it's not the worst as well. yea so what if I'm a retard, that doesn't mean I'm a stupid dip-blam!- who has his own idea on what a good game should be like.[/quote]
I figured this was inevitable. Stealth, go grow a pair or do us all a favor and carry out what you were all promising to do. Somewhere in between there though, learn English as well.

Oh, I also believe it's "GTFO." Please do so as well. You aren't wanted anywhere you go, for you leave a trail of bile and inane statements of such dry humor that even children of your age and intelligence don't find you funny. I tried to help you in the beginning, yet you seemed impossible to understand, so it's actually best if someone took the Internet away from you for good, because you obviously do not belong here.

Oh, I'm scared, I think I'm going to die of fear. yea, right, you're not wanted anywhere you go, just as much as I am, Agamemnon, you've tryed to help me? bull-blam!-, I do what I like, when I like, and how I like, if you don't like it, then deal with it, some people have learned to deal with me, and others, like you, try to get me to leave, people of your kind are what makes me stay. Grow up dude, there are going to be people in your live that you just wish they'd go jump off a cliff and die, and I geuss I'm one of those guys to you, if you think the internet is for people who are jack asses, then fine, I'd like to see you try to take the internet away from me, cause last time I checked, you're not the boss of me.

Stop your overtly dramatic, hyperbolic, and hypocritical self and put on your thinking cap for a second: Have you actually ever considered in that pea brain in there, that the fact that NO ONE likes you might be attributed to something that YOU are doing? I hope I don't have to break out pictographs for you, but you going on and fishing for reactions and then jumping back and acting like you're some kind of victim only puts you more as not only as an assinide idiot, but as a hypocritical fool who probably has just as many social problems online then he does in his real life. I just told you to go get some help--to stop and think for a while about what you're doing--and yet, like a true ignorant fool, you'd rather keep running into that wall face-first in the hopes that one day you'll walk right through it, yet all you're doing is accomplishing in showing how absolutely foolish you really are.

  • 09.03.2007 5:28 PM PDT
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In Halo 2's defense I'll just have to point out that the Resident Evil 4 Port was way crappier than the Halo 2 port...

  • 09.03.2007 5:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: Caboose OMalley
In Halo 2's defense I'll just have to point out that the Resident Evil 4 Port was way crappier than the Halo 2 port...

Still doesn't change the fact that the Halo port was crap.

  • 09.03.2007 7:21 PM PDT
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The game itself is great, just not "i'm going to install a massive resource hog of an OS and buy another 1-2 gigs of ram for a port of a 3 year old xbox game" great.

  • 09.03.2007 7:49 PM PDT

Posted by: Caboose OMalley
In Halo 2's defense I'll just have to point out that the Resident Evil 4 Port was way crappier than the Halo 2 port...


And for people like me who have barely any knowledge about what the original version of Resident Evil 4 was like on the GCN (apart from in-game cuntscenes, different lighting, and fog) enjoy it greatly ^_^

It just needs more supported resolutions or visual options so I don't get the slight output delay that i do with my 6200 at 800x600

I don't think I'll ever try Halo 2 Vista. Halo just feels more natural with a controller, and with Halo 3 on the way, and a shiny new 360 sitting beside my tv...

  • 09.03.2007 8:00 PM PDT
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Ok...

If you've played any game on the PC in the last ten years, you'll notice that Halo and Halo 2 are not that great games. Nor do they have great visuals. However, on the console side of things, it was great. It did have great visuals. It was a good game. Fast-forward 3 years later after Halo 2 was released on the Xbox, and you wind up playing Halo 2 with a keyboard and mouse. Notice I didn't say Halo 2 on the PC. Why? Well... because it's the xbox game, made to work on the PC. I wouldn't exactly even go as far as to call it a port. Ok, maybe a "straight console port", but that's it.
John Carmack said it best at his keynote this year at Quakecon. He said something like: "Porting up is so much more of a good thing than porting down. When you're porting up (xbox to pc) you now have all this computing power that you didn't before. You can now put those things that you thought would've been really cool to put in the original game, but just didn't have the resources, you can now do it when you're porting to the PC." (View the video Here - 4:30 - end of vid).

I would almost go as far to say that Halo 2 was "ported down" to the PC. At least, if you're comparing it to any other games released on the PC in the last 5 years. There was so much that could have been added, that could have been done. I mean, the simplest things like the graphics should have been re-done. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the PC has a heak of a lot more power than the Xbox has.

Microsoft isn't getting the kind of feedback they want from the Halo 2 Vista community. Not only by threads like these and game reviews, but by flat-out horrible sales, and a complete lackluster of people playing the game.

Honestly, I believe Microsoft could have sold Vista with this game. Everybody knows Crysis is going to. If they would've taken the things wrong, and put those things in that didn't quite make it into the original game, they could've had a monoply. I mean, look at Halo PC. It had online multiplayer. That's pretty much the reason most people are still playing it today. Because they can't get (supported) online multiplayer on the Xbox. Now, what does Halo 2 Vista have that the Xbox doesn't? Well... two new maps. Not re-balanced weapons, vehicles, crisper visuals etc. It's just a straight port, and Microsoft deserves the feedback it's getting from Halo 2 Vista.

  • 09.03.2007 8:03 PM PDT
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Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Posted by: Master_Dragon
You hear claims of another MAC Cannon Station, the Athens, is drifting off it's boarders.

That's driven off its boarders. I for one would love Halo 2 Vista if it worked right on my machine. Right now I hate it.

And snowy, the term I would use to describe how Halo 2 was ported to PC is badly hacked.

[Edited on 09.03.2007 11:19 PM PDT]

  • 09.03.2007 11:15 PM PDT

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Time has not been kind on you Agamemnon, not kind at all. You probably don't remember me, but i'm andrew who you also saw and spoke with around on Gamespot a while back. I'm shocked to see how cynical you've become. Take a step back for a second and look at what you type, i assure you, it ain't pretty stuff. I'm by no means naive, thank you very much. I pride myself in my intelect and also fair treatment of anything. I gave Halo 2 Vista what it deserved, a fair try. And you know what? I'm so sorry there pal, but i did in fact enjoy it to a very high degree. I'd been waiting a long time, too long i agree, but nevertheless the hype had not gone. The hype, however, was NOT the matter which drove me to enjoy it. Just the simple pleasure of coming home from a hard day's work, and crashing onto some Halo. Oh and btw, i was running the game on hardware that roughly fit the "min-specs" on the back, just above actually. At low i get good framerates, on medium i get ok-ish framerates, both at 1024x768. Keep in mind this system can't even do COD2 at above Medium specs at that resolution, and that's supposed to be a "well ported PC game from an Xbox 360 version". And bugs? Wtf what bugs? I can play the whole game through and not notice a single blip. Performance is acceptable considering it's a port. The controls are pretty good also. There is seriously very little wrong with this game in it's current state for PC, other than it's Vista-only nature (which is my only qualm with the game).

Oh and, just by the way, before any of you criticise me for my "ignorance" was it, Agamemnon? I have probably played more GREAT First Person shooters on PC than a great majority of you. Half Life, Half Life 2+Episode 1, Deus Ex, SWAT4, UT2004, Counter Strike, Medal of Honor, COD1+expansion and COD2, Tribes Vengance, Elite Force 1 & 2, Quake games, Republic Commando and of course the Halo games, as well as many others as well. So you certainly can't claim i don't have experiance. Oh and you know what? Even after all that, i STILL prefer Halo 1, and yes 2, over quite a few of them. The only allowed exceptions, are UT2004 and Half Life 2. Otherwise, i just don't enjoy personally the others as much. If you don't like that, sorry to say, but you can go sh*g a donkey, if you excuse my crudeness.

I'm perfectly open to other opinions, but blatent flaming directed at me because i like something is just plain retarded. Not mentioning any names here, but seriously you must be joking: Animal cruelty? Oh yeees i'm pretty much causing inhumane suffering because i enjoy a game. Jesus christ some people...

That's all i have to say.

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Andrew_ribbons. I remember you perfectly. I also remember that you're a few years younger then I am. To make a statement such as believing you've had more FPS experience then I have is quite rediculous, for I've been playing them since I was five. The majority of the games I own, in fact, are FPS and RTS. I can glance casually and see Half-Life 1, Half-Life 2, Doom collection, Doom 3, FEAR, Max Payne, Battlefield 2 Collection, Quake 1, Quake 2, Quake 3 Arena, and that's just PC FPS. When I had an N64, there was also Goldeneye 64. While you seem to have experienced the FPS games that influenced the genre itself and defined it, it seems you care not to look past the fun and explosions that is Halo and see absolutely nothing that is new. My only guess is that you're looking at it through the fun factor, and if that's the case, that's absolutely fine. Hey, Halo 1 was fun. I remember going over to my friend's house and having big-time LANs. When it came out on PC, the dream of online play came true, along with new maps, weapons, and vehicles. With it a while after came tools that would allow us to make some things beyond our wildest dreams. That is what made Halo 1 PC a successful port.

But what of Halo 2 Vista? You know me. I was following this game the moment it was announced. Despite how I was dissapointed with the sequel, I had hope with the port, mostly because I was expecting the same kind of quality we had with Halo 1 PC (and hopefully more, such as a good net code). When it became apparent that the developers themselves didn't even care for the game and stopped posting news about the game, it discouraged me. What kind of developers don't even follow their ports? If they preach "we care about the fans," then why not follow up? And, in the end, we got screwed over more times then I can even count.

Now I'm sorry you can't see that, but I am not pleased AT ALL with ZERO changes from the port from the console to the PC. ZERO! Couple that with the insane requirements and the requirement for Vista, that was beyond the point of no return. It was the point of idiocy, ESPECIALLY when the tools that we were given to make new maps are extremely limited. Hell, people are still taking the time to unlock all the features locked with hek2. The fact that we got so SCREWED in not only them not touching the game at all and fixing the glitches in game play should DEFINITELY say something. Why the hell would I want to buy the same game that came out nearly three years ago for the price it was back then? Why the hell would I not be able to download a demo and test to see if my computer could handle it or not? Why the HELL would I have to buy a new operating system to play an old game?

It was a ploy, and anyone who bought the game fell right into it. Halo 2 Vista was meant to be their flagship title for Vista to introduce Windows LIVE, which, if it succeeds, will destroy PC gaming as we know it and will then creep into a marketing business for Microsoft. When people come onto these forums and give negative feedback, they are telling Microsoft that they're not going to get off so easily by flinging s*** in our face and us smiling and eating it. You might find Halo 2 fun, but if you actually are satisfied by spending $50 for nothing NEW at ALL from the console version, then you're not a smart consumer--which is exactly what Microsoft's target audience usually is.

This isn't a matter of "opinions"--as I'm so sick and tired of people pulling that out in an argument--it's a matter of using logic and sense. As I am no longer interested in consoles, as a PC gamer I would be OUTRAGED by this disgrace that is called a port, and that is exactly why I respond to threads like this. The animal torture thing was a perfect example; just because someone finds a thrill or enjoyment from it does NOT make it ok for people to say, "Yeah, I guess I can see why you find it fun, keep it up! Spread the word around!" The exact same goes for Halo 2 Vista, because that is how much of an absolute travesty this port is.

And THAT'S all I have to say.

  • 09.05.2007 10:38 AM PDT

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I shall not submit to petty bickering, now do stop it!

"Andrew_ribbons. I remember you perfectly. I also remember that you're a few years younger then I am."

And? I'm not impressed by either elitistism nor ageism so well...that comment goes does not do you any favours in my book. Is there anything childish about what I say? Is not believing exactly what you believe a sign of immaturity? No, it's simply the way I look at things being different to your own. I don't know what you personally were expecting from this to be quite frank, short of a remake of the whole game which, come on, it was never gunna happen. I agree we waited too long, i agree it was by far not a stellar port in terms of performance optimisation (there are very few bugs). Those two things i can accept. But to say all i do is look at the flashy lights in the game is a rather beligerant remark. I, in fact, like the music more than anything else. That is my no.1 favourite aspect to Halo games, curtiousy of that great man Marty O'Donnell. I also like the story, and have read every single Halo novel, including the latest Ghosts of Onyx, which i found superb considering it's a game-based novel, not the other way around. I do like some of the moments in the game too, they're not only original and sometimes spectacular, but also thought provoking. Have you made the human-religious connections which are being subtly infered during the story? I could say your take on Halo 2 is somewhat shallow in fact. So what it's not a brilliant port? It still says a hell of a lot more than Battlefield 2 or the like ever did for crying out loud, it's also a lot better polished than the Xbox version. Why is it wrong for me to enjoy a good story? It's the principal on which i play the Campaign after all!

You say you're so much older, so what's with the childish pissing-up-the-wall contest? I don't care what games you have, i wasn't even directing that comment straight at you in particular, but i too have been gaming since around 5, i too have played the N64 (and SNES and Gamecube and PS2 and Xbox etc...) and in fact Goldeneye, it wasn't THAT great... I don't see how you can far beat Half Life 2 anyway, i agree that's definitely a better game, i never said it wasn't, personally i think that is THE best FPS, but that's beside the point. Anyway, I used to respect you as someone who was consistant and reliably intelligent. The usage of animal-cruelty in an arguement discussing video games (unless of course you're talking about Sony...) is one of the most absurd things i've ever heard of. Do you say to people who have different enviro-political opinions to you "Ahh yes but in Japan they used to and sometimes still do torture their prisoners-of-war by plucking their fingernails off, that's obviously a reason not to trust the international Kyoto agreement"? If you're going to back yourself up on something, at least find something worthy of comparison. Animal cruelty and sci-fi video games are two completely different matters, now can you believe that? You don't have to believe it in fact, they just ARE. You want a bad port? You REALLY want to see what bad porting is all about? Ok, go play Resident Evil 4 on the PC. I would LOVE to see the look on your face when you start THAT one up. Or Lost Planet, another brilliant slop-job.

As ports go, this one is fairly average. There are many things i'd have liked BETTER about it. As games go however, i think it is a very good one.

I'd just like to remind you this is a video game Agamemnon, not a matter of life or death. It doesn't matter whether or not anyone enjoys it, it really doesn't make any difference at all to the situation as a whole. Games are wastes of time. They're fun wastes of time, but nothing of benefit to society's progress comes out of playing them. Taking them so seriously as to use words as strong as "travesty" in the said context, could be an indication to the decline of your mental health, and i seriously advise you consider a good long walk to get some fresh air, and getting rid of some of that angst.

Now for gods sake just calm down. As i say dude, it's just. A. Game. Whether you consider games as important or not, that's all they are, that's all they'll ever be (unless you live your life in the basement of your mother's home). Which i know you DON'T Agamemnon! So please stop this! If it really does offend you so much that i've stuck by my liking for this game, then just walk away. Leave. Go to another thread. But for the sake of decency do not follow my response with another red-hot flame post. If you do, i will ignore it and you know that. You know i'm better than the others. I don't even visit Gamespot forums any more.

I used to enjoy your posts, but i think the time has come for you to consider what is really important in this world. I've tried to keep my response as calm and sensible as possible. Since you're obviously so much old, far more mature, wise beyond your years...you might want to try the same?

  • 09.05.2007 11:41 AM PDT

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