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Subject: How do you feel about Time calling Bungie a Geek Ghetto?

Tri§10

I was kind of surprised to find that time magazine had published an article about halo 3, but then when i read it i got a little upset. I am in no means antisocial and i dont think that all people who play video games are. They pretty much called the whole gaming community a bunch of loner geeks that have nothing better to do with their lives. I think we should all band together and do something about this injustice!

  • 09.04.2007 2:24 PM PDT
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Stop treating Time as an official mouth-piece. They're a bunch of dolts.

  • 09.04.2007 2:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: DEATHPIMP72
Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

I don't have a copy near me. Can you quote the offensive text? Or link to it? Or both?

Edit: Nevermind, here's the link for anyone who wants to read the article and form an opinion:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1657825,00.h tml

[Edited on 09.04.2007 2:29 PM PDT]

  • 09.04.2007 2:25 PM PDT

Tri§10

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1657825,00
here is the article, read through it

for some reason the link is breaking when i post it, just add the .html

[Edited on 09.04.2007 2:28 PM PDT]

  • 09.04.2007 2:26 PM PDT

Tri§10

heres what they said

:"There is an invisible subculture in America. Those who belong to it love it with a lonely, alienated, unironic passion. Those who don't belong to it walk right by, uncaring, just as people walk right by that unmarked building in downtown Kirkland. It is the subculture of hard-core video games, and that oddly shaped building, which houses a company called Bungie, is one of its temples."

"THE CLICHÉ ABOUT GAMERS IS THAT THEY'RE antisocial, if not sociopathic, but Bungie is very much a community. There's a foreign-legion quality to it, as if the company had been created as a refuge for smart people who wouldn't or couldn't fit into more conventional professions. Environment artist Dave Dunne started out as an architect. In a past life, O'Donnell wrote the We Are Flintstones Kids vitamin jingle. Designer Paul Bertone was a structural engineer who inspected bridges. "The people who play Bungie games tend to sense that there's something behind the games that's attractive to them," says O'Donnell. "Then they become fans of the games. And then they become rabid fans. And then they become employees of Bungie"

"Not that the Bungies care. They don't need to legitimize Halo by associating it with other, more respectable media. They sell enough units and make enough money. They're happy in their invisible geek ghetto. But that's the logic of the marketplace: it can't leave subcultures alone; it has to turn them into cultures. It may be time for the Master Chief to come in from the cold and join the party, with the popular kids. Just don't expect him to take off his helmet."


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Posted by: DEATHPIMP72
Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

Okay, after reading the article, I can see where and why you're offended. The author makes the assumption that he is popular, and because he's not obsessed with Halo, therefore Halo fans must be geeks.

I don't see the need to respond to such a pompous, arrogant implication. Especially from a magazine journalist. It has been a really long time since I put any credence in what a magazine journalist had to say about anything. That's like listening to a kindergarten teacher's opinion on quantum physics. The only difference is that kindergarten teachers can actually have a legitimate opinion once in awhile.

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  • 09.04.2007 2:37 PM PDT

Tri§10

you didnt think that calling the gaming community a bunch of lonely antisocial sociopaths offensive? Not to mention they got their facts wrong, like you said.

[Edited on 09.04.2007 2:38 PM PDT]

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Posted by: DEATHPIMP72
Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

Posted by: tris10335
you didnt think that calling the gaming community a bunch of lonely antisocial sociopaths offensive? Not to mention they got their facts wrong, like you said.
That's not what he said. He said that's the cliche but that the Bungie Community is exactly the opposite.

At the same time, it's a bit annoying that he called this community a "Geek Ghetto." But for my opinion on that, see my post above.

  • 09.04.2007 2:39 PM PDT

Tri§10

I dont really care what the journalist himself thinks of us, its the fact that millions of people are reading this and they are talking about all of us like were a bunch of nobodys, you know what i mean? At the end of the article it says "It may be time for the Master Chief to come in from the cold and join the party, with the popular kids." Everybody plays halo, not just the kids who dont have friends.

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  • 09.04.2007 2:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: DEATHPIMP72
Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

Posted by: tris10335
I dont really care what the journalist himself thinks of is, its the fact that millions of people are reading this and they are talking about all of us like were a bunch of nobodys, you know what i mean?
Haha.

Time Magazine has a circulation of 3.25 million. Halo 3 hopes to sell around 10 million copies. If this guy thinks that his little story is mainstream while Halo 3 is part of a "ghetto subculture" (LOL), then he needs to do some more research.

Of course, asking a magazine journalist to do research is like asking Marty O'Donnell to stop being awesome. Neither one will ever happen.

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  • 09.04.2007 2:46 PM PDT

Tri§10

I'm not irate or anything i just think that he should have gotten his facts straight and maybe watched his wording a little more carefully. I dont see how someone who knows little to nothing and probably had to do google searches about the story line to write his little article can talk down on something as big and as special as the bungie/halo community.

  • 09.04.2007 2:59 PM PDT

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  • 09.04.2007 3:05 PM PDT

Tri§10

maybe im just being pessimistic, but if i knew nothing of halo or bungie i wouldnt think that article was positive. on the other hand maybe some fifty year old man will read it, start playing halo 3, and his life will be forever changed right?

  • 09.04.2007 3:10 PM PDT
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I didn't expect too much from the article. If I was editor, I would have hired an actual gaming journalist to write the story.

  • 09.04.2007 3:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: tris10335
I'm not irate or anything i just think that he should have gotten his facts straight and maybe watched his wording a little more carefully. I dont see how someone who knows little to nothing and probably had to do google searches about the story line to write his little article can talk down on something as big and as special as the bungie/halo community.

It's "big and special" to the folks on this site and within the community, but there are lots and lots of people to whom it is "Ha-what?" and "Bun-who?".

Those folks are the intended audience of his article. While he may not have been as accurate or as complimentary in his choice of words, those who have never heard of Halo or Bungie should at least now have a mostly positive inkling.


Here here, I just posted something along the same lines about this on the H3 Forum

  • 09.04.2007 3:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: x Foman123 x
Of course, asking a magazine journalist to do research is like asking Marty O'Donnell to stop being awesome. Neither one will ever happen.



That one made me laugh.

  • 09.04.2007 3:42 PM PDT

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Man, if dey think dis be da ghetto, I'ma pull my 9 out n bust a caps in dey -blam!-

  • 09.04.2007 3:51 PM PDT

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I liked this article...want to know why???

Because now I have the damn Flintstones kids vitamin jingle going through my head!! Thanks Marty...

"10 million strong....and growing..."

Hmm...now that I think about it...maybe that could be used to describe another product we know!

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Posted by: DEATHPIMP72
Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

Posted by: BerserkerBarage
I liked this article...want to know why???

Because now I have the damn Flintstones kids vitamin jingle going through my head!! Thanks Marty...

"10 million strong....and growing..."

Hmm...now that I think about it...maybe that could be used to describe another product we know!

~B.B.
I get that jingle in my head for about 3 days every time I listen to a Bungie podcast. The theme song is... for some reason.... eeeeeeeerily familiar.

;-)

  • 09.04.2007 4:02 PM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: x Foman123 x
Posted by: BerserkerBarage
I liked this article...want to know why???

Because now I have the damn Flintstones kids vitamin jingle going through my head!! Thanks Marty...

"10 million strong....and growing..."

Hmm...now that I think about it...maybe that could be used to describe another product we know!

~B.B.
I get that jingle in my head for about 3 days every time I listen to a Bungie podcast. The theme song is... for some reason.... eeeeeeeerily familiar.

;-)


....and Frankieeeeee

~B.B.

  • 09.04.2007 4:45 PM PDT
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Public media always spins a twist on anything to get a good story, then about a week later when someone asks you "do you remember the article in times about bungie?" and you will go "huh?" or "what article was that?"
No one remembers small time stories in the news anymore, and if anything its just to get viewers/readers when half of the time none of the information is correct or is twisted to there own ways.
But I don't think it will be a big deal. Like I said above, most people won't care about it enough to even remember it later on.

  • 09.04.2007 4:51 PM PDT