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These are the many minor annoyances and problems with halo 2 that I hope will be fixed in halo 3...If there are other topics, I apoligize.

First off- General gameplay

What the hell is wrong with spawns...ever had it to the point where you finally had weapon control and you all of a sudden got assasinated because someone spawned right behind you.

DUAL WIELDS...these piss me off the most. Why should a dual weild, where all you have to do is hole R and L be so good. They made the pistol suck which completely took the small amount of skill duel weilding had.

Melee's miss constantly which I'm sure all of you have experienced.

Combos can go around corners which is always annoying

Another thing that botheres me quite a bit is reload glitches...I know how to do them, so don't call me ignorant, but it's just the fact that someone can get so screwed over by them. The kids who play that constantly double shot are just ridiculous...just go outside and do something in real life.

Then there is...

Cheating is always kind of annoying, but it's happened to me so much, i've learned to deal with it.

And then there is all the trash talking...little kids who just scream into their mics. This doesn't bother me too much either though becuase you can always mute people, but it's just the fact that the game has just become a haven for trash talking.

And finally...Maps. Why the hell did bungie bring back maps like elongation and derelict. Not many people actually enjoy those maps because they aren't meant for halo 2...they should have stayed in halo 1.

This is just my small rant about halo 2 and the things I hope they can fix for halo 3. I have played halo 2 for a few years now and my anger has just built up over that span of time. I still play every once in a while with one of my friends, but the many problems with this game have driven me away from it. Please actually read everything before you post and flame me for one small portion for my rant. If you do this, I will just laugh at your incompetence because you are probably under the age of twelve and shouldn't even be playing the game.

Please remember that these are just the problems with the game. There are obviously many more good aspects to the game than bad, but to name all of the good would be pointless on my part, because all of you have a reason and a fun time playing Halo 2.

[Edited on 09.05.2007 8:29 PM PDT]

  • 09.05.2007 8:22 PM PDT
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1. You never got spawned assasinated... your exaggerating like every other complainer
2. Dual-wielding is meant to be in the game. Not everyone has to like it.
3. Hardly no one Quad-shots...
4. You think every kid is bad, but dont realize every age can be bad. Its maturity, not age.
5. Derelict isnt even in this game. If your thinking of desolation... you shouldnt even be ranting.

  • 09.05.2007 8:32 PM PDT
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I have infact been spawn assasinated many times...
I was just pointing out the fact that dual wields are overpowered and require no skill
I have played with many people who quad-shotted in double team
The age I was referring to was just a general stereotype about annoying little kids, becuase most of them I play with annoy the hell out of me...
And they remade derelict for halo 2 and called it desolation...you stupid little bastard

  • 09.05.2007 8:37 PM PDT
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Quit whining and find a game you like, then. Nearly three years after the game's release is a bit late to try and pose an argument about a game's phenomenal success.

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Why the hell did bungie bring back maps like elongation and derelict Derelict?

Find a game where you've been spawn assasinated.

  • 09.05.2007 8:48 PM PDT

If you don't like the game, don't play it.

  • 09.05.2007 9:28 PM PDT

Send A Friend Request to Schloxictonkey if you need a good teammate and you are good

I have and have been spawn assassinated. dual weilding sucks because it should be like goldeneye where every weapon has the OPTION to be dual weilded. it should be for custom games. its rediculus to have two guns one in each hand. that only happens in movies. or custom video games. I want to dual weild a human snipe with a beam. NOT be FORCED to dual weild ghey smgs in order to even survive. LAg. its too bad, people poop talk. I poop talk. I will poop talk you till you start cryin. and I have a problem with all the symetrical maps. there should only be one, either warlock or sanctuary. or maybe even both. NOT foundation, make something fun. NOT desolation... gimme a break. NOT backwash... "whats backwash, i've never played there" -actual comment from some moron. i probly forgot about 5 but im drunk. Midship, but thats fun most of the time.

  • 09.05.2007 9:38 PM PDT

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There's so many dumb things you're ranting about, it literally made my head hurt trying to read it. Let's go down the list of things together, shall we?

First off, if you're going to rant about a game like a jackass over a message board, make sure that you use some grammar. Any grammar at all would have been nice, but I felt like I was reading the essay entries for the Special Olympics. That's right, they have an essay event, and you, Sir, have just won it.

Secondly, no one spawns so close behind you that they can assassinate you without you being able to move. Is it possible that they spawned right before you, and you spawned on top of them, and that's how they got you? Seems to be the only way that the algorithim Bungie uses for Spawns could break down. I've played this game for nigh on three years now, and it's NEVER happened to me, so I think you should re-evaluate what's happened to you.

Another thing I'm tired of is people constantly saying that weapons aren't skillful. The rockets, sword, and dual wielding combos are the ones that take the most heat about it, and I think it's all rubbish. Wake up and smell the coffee people... if you wnat to be good at any of the aforementioned weapons, you have to use them. Rockets take a lot of skill to be able to do the cool stuff with them like popping guys out of mid-air on a consistent basis. Sword does seem slightly unbalanced, but if you keep your distance and blast a guy with smg, then he's down, so no worries there.

Dual wielding is harder than it seems, because keeping the guns on aim is hard, and the accuracy when dual wielding is way down compared to single wielding. Plus, know what combinations, when and where to use them, being able to accurately strafe, etc. Lots of things to all worry about when using them. Every weapon is a skill weapon if you want to be the best at it.

I can't say a lot about melees and combo because they both frustrate me, but there's nothing to be done. THAT comes down to host, and people over-using an in game combination that seems to suck the fun out of the game.

As far as reloading glitches, do them. You've played enough halo, obviously from your rant, that you should NEVER be able to say, "The kids who play that constantly double shot are just ridiculous...just go outside and do something in real life". You should be out doing something instead of posting an inane rant on bungie.net. Hell, I should be doing something else besides breaking down your ignorance. The fact of the matter is that it's a glitch, and people do it. From what I've played in the beta, there's button glitches there. There's button glitches in Gears of War. There are glitches in every game, so get used to it instead of what I will now call whining like a little girl.

Trash talking? You're seriously going to call out trash talking? For God's sake, man, everyone trash talks to an extent. It's a psychological winner for people willing to do it. It comes with the fact that it's a popular game, and people in Halo 3 are going to do it just as bad if not worse. I've played real sports with real people, and the trash talk is there as well. Hell, me and my closest friends screw with each other all the time. If the words hurt your poor little feelings that bad, then go cry to your momma.

As far as the maps go, whaaaaa. Bungie's worked hard on those, and they're not bad maps at all. Just because you don't like them doesn't give you a reason to complain about it in the slightest. Especially when they took time out of making other projects to give your selfish behind new maps to play on. Apparently some people like them, because they haven't taken them out of matchmaking like they did Backwash, so quit your bellyaching.

Moral of the story, Child, is that you've taken up space on the forums, and my personal time with this nonsense, so whenever you're ready to grow up and deal with the world instead of complaining about it, then you'll have something to say about a game.

--Kris Peraldo

  • 09.05.2007 9:45 PM PDT
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Wrecktified you are an naive little -blam!-, I have been spawn assassinated many times. Hardly anyone quadshots? who the hell have you been playing with? He didnt say he thought every kid was bad, he said its stupid that they scream into their mics.

Posted by: Wrecktified
1. You never got spawned assassinated... your exaggerating like every other complainer
2. Dual-wielding is meant to be in the game. Not everyone has to like it.
3. Hardly no one Quad-shots...
4. You think every kid is bad, but dont realize every age can be bad. Its maturity, not age.
5. Derelict isnt even in this game. If your thinking of desolation... you shouldn't even be ranting.


And to kris peraldo, you sit and call him pathetic and then write a reply to a rant, which is in fact longer than the original one, you guys need to get lives rather than bashing anyone with an opinion on this forum. THATS WHY ITS CALLED A FORUM

[Edited on 09.05.2007 10:39 PM PDT]

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Actually its possible to get spawn assassinated, but after a few times you should be expecting crap like that to happen. I pretty much know most of the spawn spots on every map, and I check the scoreboard thing every 5 seconds just to see who is alive. Only way to prevent being spawn assassinated is to be prepared for it, which I always am. For example, if you're in S1 on lockout, a very crap spawn would be that your opponent spawn at S2 or the catwalk area, but I'm always expecting that so it's usually not a problem. What you gotta do is expect the game to screw you over, you have to expect your shots to miss across the map and your melees to miss constantly. When you do you find you'll have a better understanding of the game and can adjust to it, such as to grenade the spawn points or lead your shots better due to latency.

Also people don't quad shot much, unless you're playing VERY good people, which I doubt you are playing since you're complaining about duals.

  • 09.05.2007 10:51 PM PDT

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hahahahahhahaha

You're silly.

I've just re-read everything I typed to that guy, and not once did I use the word pathetic, so that must have been some Freudian Slip on your part. Either you hate that guy or yourself.

As far as me being out there somewhere doing something... well, I'm pretty sure, again from re-reading it, that I covered how sad it was for me to be re-ranting.

Also, for the record, if his opinion had anything that was based on facts, I would have left it alone, but ranting because of emotion and frustration is the quickest way to lose a debate, get made fun of, and make bad decisions. I felt it my duty to call him on his ignorance, as I am yours. Again, reading and grammar are key points to the US Educational System, and utilizing those tools would be valuable in making your point seem a lot more poignant.

--Kris Peraldo

  • 09.06.2007 1:07 AM PDT

Posted by: ToxicSchlonkey
dual weilding sucks because it should be like goldeneye where every weapon has the OPTION to be dual weilded. it should be for custom games. its rediculus to have two guns one in each hand. that only happens in movies. or custom video games. I want to dual weild a human snipe with a beam. NOT be FORCED to dual weild ghey smgs in order to even survive.


Dual Wielding Sniper Rifles, BR's or Rocket Launchers would make no sense physically or in terms of balanced play. As I've commented on many other "complaint threads", If you don't like Halo 2, don't play it. No one is forcing you to (hopefully).

[Edited on 09.06.2007 1:36 AM PDT]

  • 09.06.2007 1:31 AM PDT
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If any of you actually read my first post completely...I said that I do like Halo 2 and the good aspects greatly outweigh the bads. Before you start flaming me, actually read the topic. I'm glad to see the many pathetic kids who posted here have the maturity level of a toddler.

  • 09.06.2007 4:57 AM PDT

If you don't want people to give you their opinions, don't post anything on the interwebs. It's common sense.

  • 09.06.2007 9:14 PM PDT

Greatest of all time

no, fail.

  • 09.07.2007 4:11 AM PDT

Posted by: I Forsworn I
If any of you actually read my first post completely...I said that I do like Halo 2 and the good aspects greatly outweigh the bads. Before you start flaming me, actually read the topic. I'm glad to see the many pathetic kids who posted here have the maturity level of a toddler.

Didn't you hear? You're not allowed to criticise halo. It means you're a bad and stupid person and you don't know what you're talking about, even if you clearly state you love the game.

  • 09.07.2007 4:17 AM PDT

Explosions of flavour
Check the ill-culinary behaviour

I love Halo2
and yet, it does indeed suck,
and it sucks even more now we can see everything that halo3 will correct. It's like the girlfriend you thought was cool until you met her perfect sister....

but after all the moaning, it's those rare moments of joy that far outweigh any grumbles, i love Halo2, Halo2 sucks

:D

[Edited on 09.07.2007 6:03 AM PDT]

  • 09.07.2007 6:01 AM PDT
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many times ive beat down duals face to face

  • 09.07.2007 6:11 AM PDT
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Ok then I must be really lucky, I cant recall one time when ive been spawned assinated.



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Posted by: Wrecktified

[quote]4. You think every kid is bad, but dont realize every age can be bad. Its maturity, not age.

Incorrect.

Incorrect.
You are saying that if a kid talks into a mic, hes immatur and yells no matter what hes speaking about. Even if hes trying to help.


[quote]2. Dual-wielding is meant to be in the game. Not everyone has to like it.


Yes, but they made them very unskillful. They should have kept the pistol from 1.0 Halo 2 and made dual wielding actually good and made it so that not 95% of the map are dual weapons.

The pistol turned into the battle rifle.

What the point of complaining if halo 3 is 18 days away?
If your not getting it... tough.

  • 09.07.2007 6:55 AM PDT
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Posted by: I Forsworn I
If any of you actually read my first post completely...I said that I do like Halo 2 and the good aspects greatly outweigh the bads. Before you start flaming me, actually read the topic. I'm glad to see the many pathetic kids who posted here have the maturity level of a toddler.


Kids?
I am guessing you are what 15 or 16?
Haha I think YOU are the one who is the pathetic kid with the maturity of a toddler here.
You fail, I am sorry.

[Edited on 09.07.2007 7:09 AM PDT]

  • 09.07.2007 7:08 AM PDT

Go to your room!


...Well I'm glad that worked, because those would have been terrible last words.

Posted by: I Forsworn I
These are the many minor annoyances and problems with halo 2 that I hope will be fixed in halo 3...If there are other topics, I apoligize.

First off- General gameplay

What the hell is wrong with spawns...ever had it to the point where you finally had weapon control and you all of a sudden got assasinated because someone spawned right behind you.

DUAL WIELDS...these piss me off the most. Why should a dual weild, where all you have to do is hole R and L be so good. They made the pistol suck which completely took the small amount of skill duel weilding had.

Melee's miss constantly which I'm sure all of you have experienced.

Combos can go around corners which is always annoying

Another thing that botheres me quite a bit is reload glitches...I know how to do them, so don't call me ignorant, but it's just the fact that someone can get so screwed over by them. The kids who play that constantly double shot are just ridiculous...just go outside and do something in real life.

Then there is...

Cheating is always kind of annoying, but it's happened to me so much, i've learned to deal with it.

And then there is all the trash talking...little kids who just scream into their mics. This doesn't bother me too much either though becuase you can always mute people, but it's just the fact that the game has just become a haven for trash talking.

And finally...Maps. Why the hell did bungie bring back maps like elongation and derelict. Not many people actually enjoy those maps because they aren't meant for halo 2...they should have stayed in halo 1.

This is just my small rant about halo 2 and the things I hope they can fix for halo 3. I have played halo 2 for a few years now and my anger has just built up over that span of time. I still play every once in a while with one of my friends, but the many problems with this game have driven me away from it. Please actually read everything before you post and flame me for one small portion for my rant. If you do this, I will just laugh at your incompetence because you are probably under the age of twelve and shouldn't even be playing the game.

Please remember that these are just the problems with the game. There are obviously many more good aspects to the game than bad, but to name all of the good would be pointless on my part, because all of you have a reason and a fun time playing Halo 2.


Not exactly a man at the forefront of gaming news and debate, are you?

  • 09.07.2007 7:45 AM PDT

I believe lately that everyone has missed the point of this industry. It is called entertainment for a reason. The purpose is for you to sit back, and do something that is fun and enjoyable. People complain like the game was built for them and if it isn't perfect then it's nothing better than a pile of -blam!-. I play the game for fun and don't let things mentioned in this thread annoy me, but I do get annoyed with people who take away from that fun (aka cheater). The mute function works wonders on screaming people.

  • 09.07.2007 12:58 PM PDT

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