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Subject: Do you think peoples bad opinions on BRs, MLG, etc. are due to thei...

Not to be rude, but the extremely large majority of anti-BR, anti-MLG, and anti-button glitching kids are all bad at this game.


Fail.

Kids? No, kids button glitch and cheat.

Bad? No, just at a DISADVANTAGE because of the GLITCHERS.


got it? Good.


MLG Sucks, glitchers suck, but i do quite like a BR match, they are more fun that say SMG starts.

  • 09.06.2007 9:06 AM PDT

Been playing Halo a long time. Love video games. But how many of you have a higher score in Ninja Gaiden?

Napoleon said, "I'd rather have a general who is lucky than one who is good."

Hahahahahahahahah! I think the responses in this thread prove that people who dont like MLG generally suck. Their descriptions about how MLG plays show how little they actually know about it, and therefore have no right to really give an opinion at all.

  • 09.06.2007 9:10 AM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
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--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

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There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: IIDWells55XII
Not to be rude, but the extremely large majority of anti-BR, anti-MLG, and anti-button glitching kids are all bad at this game.


Yeah of idiotic over-generalizations!! Grow a brain DWells...

~B.B.

  • 09.06.2007 9:13 AM PDT

Hahahahahahahahah! I think the responses in this thread prove that people who dont like MLG generally suck. Their descriptions about how MLG plays show how little they actually know about it, and therefore have no right to really give an opinion at all.




So now you are suggesting that people who 'dont' spend their lives in MLG dont have freedom of speech?


You clearly are a MLG player, your tone and your "im better than you at HALO 2!" gives a good impression of MLG.


Immature and stupid.

[Edited on 09.06.2007 9:15 AM PDT]

  • 09.06.2007 9:15 AM PDT

Posted by: SilkieLemon
You clearly are a MLG player, your tone and your "im better than you at HALO 2!" gives a good impression of MLG.

Immature and stupid.

Please don't make that judgement on a BAD stereo type.

The "MLG Players" you see in matchmaking/hear about, either are the minority of MLG players, some kids that are saying they are "in" MLG just to give them a bad name, or to just be annoying. The serious MLG players rarely play in Matchmaking. They (me included) prefer custom games. Serious MLG players like MLG FFA and the teams prefer to play against other MLG teams. MLG teams don't like the idea of playing in Matchmaking and do it if they really need practice before and event or something (from my experience with watching my brother and his team). When they do play in Matchmaking, they don't trash talk people unless provoked.

From my experience, those that complain about MLG/button glitches are just frustrated at loosing (be it a low spell or them not being good) or getting cheating in Matchmaking and lump it all under "MLG/Button Glitching."

Finaly a MLG thread that is halfway tame.

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Posted by: B3OWULF
I'll be so glad in a few days when H3 is here. Yes, MLG will play H3, but much of the advantages they enjoyed in H2 will be gone, and many players will get a HUGE reality check. Maybe not all of them are as good as they thought they were?



The teams that excel in MLG aren't pros because they can do glitches, they are pros because they exhibit characteristics that allow them to win. It takes more than a double shot to win a tournament. Final Boss has shown the world that they deserve the championships because they display a very high level of reflexes, strategy, adaptability, and teamwork.

The only person getting a reality check is yourself. You're going to realize that people that are better than you are because of simple glitches, but because of fundamental gameplay skills.

  • 09.06.2007 9:51 AM PDT
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Great post Fastforward. Hardcore MLG players are not -blam!-s, except maybe da acklete. :)

I play MLG customs, I play Zombies customs, I play THC, I play Team Skirmish. My best level is Team Slayer. Buy I enjoy MLG settings the most because it is so competitive.

I can use the BR and dominate...
...and I can dominate with other weapons too.

Not saying I am a great player, but I can do both. And If I can do both, do you really think Karma and Legit can't?


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If anyone wants to hear a Street Fighter Champion's take on bans read this article by Sirlin.

  • 09.06.2007 9:55 AM PDT

Freedom of Speech does not equal "Freedom from Consequences when one speaks".

It is a right, and all rights have responsibilities associated with them. Ignore the responsibility, and you tend to lose the right.
Recon Number 54

Posted by: Unsheathed
The only person getting a reality check is yourself. You're going to realize that people that are better than you are because of simple glitches, but because of fundamental gameplay skills.


I made no claims whatsoever about my skill. What are you talking about? And...if you read my post you'd see that I said MLG players use teamwork. When MLGers play in tournaments, the effects of glitching are, to some degree, nullified if everyone else does the same.

The original title of this thread was changed at some point. I was only commenting why MLGers are disliked, and there was absolutely no malice in my post. The fact that you chose to be antagonistic towards me...perhaps proves my point?

  • 09.06.2007 9:59 AM PDT

Go to your room!


...Well I'm glad that worked, because those would have been terrible last words.

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Posted by: ThreeShot
but don't make baseless claims about something especially if you don't know much about it. That's all I ask.


the only baseless claim here is that anti-MLGs are without skill


Not everyone that doesn't play it is bad. Just a lot. I left that 1% margin for error. :)


Just out of curiousity, is your assumption based on anything but anecdotal evidence?

  • 09.06.2007 10:03 AM PDT

RIP Halo 2.

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Posted by: IIDWells55XII
Not to be rude, but the extremely large majority of anti-BR, anti-MLG, and anti-button glitching kids are all bad at this game.

well, I must be part of the minority

also, although this will sound like a childish rebuttle, many MLG, BR, Button glitcher's are smart arse trash talker's who think they are better then everyone who doesnt glitch etc

Sorry to have to do this, but judging by your stats, no, you are not part of the minority. Button glitching doesn't make you good, it's merely an extra option available to any player who chooses to use it. It's a skill requiring timing and precision. The people you're thinking of are Matchmaking randoms, and even then, people don't think that they're good solely because they button glitch.


Posted by: B3OWULF
Posted by: IIDWells55XII
Not to be rude, but the extremely large majority of anti-BR, anti-MLG, and anti-button glitching kids are all bad at this game.

Not to be rude, but so what if they are? Don't they deserve to be able to play games at their own level just like eveyone else? Claiming that a certain group of players are "all bad at this game" marks you as an antagonist, and obviously not helpful.

The topic of this thread is "Do you think peoples bad opinions on BRs, MLG, etc. are due to their skill?" and I was merely sharing a personal observation relevant to the topic at hand.


Posted by: SilkieLemon
Not to be rude, but the extremely large majority of anti-BR, anti-MLG, and anti-button glitching kids are all bad at this game.


Fail.

Kids? No, kids button glitch and cheat.

Bad? No, just at a DISADVANTAGE because of the GLITCHERS.


got it? Good.


MLG Sucks, glitchers suck, but i do quite like a BR match, they are more fun that say SMG starts.

Sorry about the use of the word "kids." It's kind of just a reflex instead of saying "people" at this point. Age has nothing to do with whether or not someone uses button glitches. Getting button glitched at doesn't put you at a disadvantage. Anyone can do it. How are you at a disadvantage if you can hit the exact same buttons on your controller that they can? Even so, button glitching doesn't determine games. If you got beat by people who were button glitching, they could've beat you anyways. Choosing not to button glitch is not a valid excuse for why you're losing games. A lot of people blame button glitching when none occurred whatsoever. I see all these people complaining about how they're losing games because they're getting doubleshotted and quadshotted. That's a total BS excuse, because doubleshotting is so rare at those levels that it's negligible. Even at level 30+ in Team Hardcore it's still rare to see people who effectively doubleshot.


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Posted by: IIDWells55XII
Not to be rude, but the extremely large majority of anti-BR, anti-MLG, and anti-button glitching kids are all bad at this game.


Yeah of idiotic over-generalizations!! Grow a brain DWells...

~B.B.

I've played enough Halo 2 and played with enough different people to realize what I'm saying is true. I've observed this from over 10,000 games of Halo 2 on countless different accounts at almost every level of Matchmaking. I'm not making an unfair generalization, I'm merely pointing out a trend which I and many other people have observed based on their time spent on Halo 2. Once you get to higher ranks in Matchmaking, no one complains about button glitches. No one. The only time you hear complaints is against lesser-skilled players in lower level Matchmaking. I've never played with someone good who was against button glitching.

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Posted by: B3OWULF
Posted by: Unsheathed
The only person getting a reality check is yourself. You're going to realize that people that are better than you are because of simple glitches, but because of fundamental gameplay skills.


I made no claims whatsoever about my skill. What are you talking about? And...if you read my post you'd see that I said MLG players use teamwork. When MLGers play in tournaments, the effects of glitching are, to some degree, nullified if everyone else does the same.

The original title of this thread was changed at some point. I was only commenting why MLGers are disliked, and there was absolutely no malice in my post. The fact that you chose to be antagonistic towards me...perhaps proves my point?


I never said anything or assumed anything about your skill level except that you are not the number one player. Is that such an absurd statement? Or am I going too far?

I never said I participated in MLG, and I never have.

What kind of HUGE awakening are you expecting for these people anyway?

  • 09.06.2007 10:27 AM PDT
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To the forum author, yes, I think peoples bad opinions are due to their skill. All you have to do is just look at a MLG guys stats, and then an anti MLG guys stats. You will see that the anti MLG guy is considerably worse than the MLG guy.

All the people who think the pros need glitches to win, are in for a reality check come the 25. Maybe then you will realize that MLG people are better than you and then you'll have to find something new to complain about.

  • 09.06.2007 10:38 AM PDT
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Would you rather play 2v2 MLG style on Lockout, or 2v2 smg start on ivory tower and spawn at the low base where the trees are. if you are normal i would assume youll take the br start on lockout if not, uh i just dont get how you could like such a horrible gametype but i guess thats your choice. the br fight always or mostly ensures a interesting and fair and balanced game where as the other could be, smg vs sword, shotty, rockets, sniper, noob combo, br, you know everything in existance versus your awesome smg.

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  • 09.06.2007 10:42 AM PDT

Freedom of Speech does not equal "Freedom from Consequences when one speaks".

It is a right, and all rights have responsibilities associated with them. Ignore the responsibility, and you tend to lose the right.
Recon Number 54

Posted by: Flavor Flav
Actually thats a lie. It was never changed, thats why my OP doesnt have an edit tag on it. So now youre saying your actions were only justified because of a title that never existed?


No, it wasn't a "lie" -- it was an honest mistake, and I'm sorry. Why did you spend so much of your post arguing my points? I thought I was being pretty diplomatic qualifying some MLGers against others, and not stereotyping. And I didn't say that MLGers were going to have a reality check in H3 just because they can't use button-glitches. There will be other equalizers in H3 as well.

The slant in your posts seem to be slightly pro-MLG. My *ONLY ISSUE* with MLGers is them bringing "their rules" into MM. I'm not a whiner -- just want a fair venue I can enjoy some good Halo gaming.

EDIT:
I see now why I misinterpreted the title of your thread -- I assumed when I read, "...due to *their* skill?", you were talking about MLGers. Now I understand that you meant those with bad opinions. If I'd read this correctly to begin with (my bad), I never would have taken the time to post.

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If you don't like it them leave bad feedback. That would be why it's there.

  • 09.06.2007 10:54 AM PDT

Freedom of Speech does not equal "Freedom from Consequences when one speaks".

It is a right, and all rights have responsibilities associated with them. Ignore the responsibility, and you tend to lose the right.
Recon Number 54

Posted by: binklet
All you have to do is just look at a MLG guys stats, and then an anti MLG guys stats. You will see that the anti MLG guy is considerably worse than the MLG guy.



Stats are very slippery things to lend much credence upon, when taken out of context. The reason MLGers have high levels and k/d ratios is because they play in teams. By contrast, many people just enter into MM by themselves and get matched up randomly with others. I know to expect only about one win in three playing this way. Consequently, for example, my level does not accurately represent my skill.

  • 09.06.2007 10:55 AM PDT
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Yeah really you cannot go and determine how good people are based off of numbers.

  • 09.06.2007 10:58 AM PDT

Greatest of all time

Br is t3h suckz0rz 1 k33p g3tt1ng BxRd by n00bs!

lol

  • 09.06.2007 10:58 AM PDT

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Posted by: MCCE
Yeah really you cannot go and determine how good people are based off of numbers.


Or how they lost to someone 50-10 in the first round of the open ffa.

Oops my bad.

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Posted by: binklet
All you have to do is just look at a MLG guys stats, and then an anti MLG guys stats. You will see that the anti MLG guy is considerably worse than the MLG guy.

and that would be because most of the guys who dont like them are casual gammers, who cant stand the way they play, they basicly tell everyone that button glitching is ok, bungie has clearly stated that they are considered cheating, yet yall just keep going on and on and on about how you use them, and of course mlg has higher stats, considering all they do is play halo2,

  • 09.06.2007 11:51 AM PDT

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