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Just wondering how plasma grenades manage to stick to Spartans & Elites when they have their shields on? surely the shields would n't allow anything to fix to them and they would fall off?

  • 06.03.2004 2:10 AM PDT
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Hmm... good point..?

  • 06.03.2004 5:12 AM PDT
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don't get me wrong, it's fun, just wondering why it happens

  • 06.03.2004 5:24 AM PDT
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No a plasma grenade would stick to the shield, it is a physical barrier.

  • 06.03.2004 1:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Duce11
No a plasma grenade would stick to the shield, it is a physical barrier.


sorry but i don't understand why? i mean... surely it would bounce off. how can the grenade stick to a wall of energy?

  • 06.03.2004 2:33 PM PDT
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Don't the shields like ionize the air around the chief and elites. IT is a physical barrier, as it holds the chief off the ground a bit (read fall of reach when he gets the MJOLNIR). So i can only assume the shields somehow take the air molecules and magnetize them to form a sort of wall...

The question is how can you shoot out of it?

  • 06.03.2004 2:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: Canadiankamikazi
The question is how can you shoot out of it?


The shield doesn't cover the weapon he's holding.

  • 06.03.2004 3:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: Duce11
No a plasma grenade would stick to the shield, it is a physical barrier.


Then why doesn't it stick to a Jackal's shield?

  • 06.03.2004 3:13 PM PDT
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Those shields are differnt.

Plasma shields reflect physical objects, but get burned down quicker by plasma weapons.

The MJOLNIR shields absorb a lot more of everything.

  • 06.03.2004 3:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: Canadiankamikazi
Those shields are differnt.

Plasma shields reflect physical objects, but get burned down quicker by plasma weapons.

The MJOLNIR shields absorb a lot more of everything.


True, but seeing as how it absorbs more, does it really count as a physical barrier then?

  • 06.03.2004 3:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: Canadiankamikazi
Those shields are differnt.


I think you'll find that the Spartan's shields were developed from the Spartan's capture of jackal's arm-bands which produce the shield. They aren't actually that different!

  • 06.03.2004 3:28 PM PDT
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Plasma grenades meld onto whatever they stick to, if they get stuck to your arm, they will melt into your arm a bit so you cannot remove it

  • 06.03.2004 4:58 PM PDT
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i am sure that there is some crazy magnetic bond caused by the plasma and ionized air coming into contact, therefore making it stick. you see, all particles of all matter is in constant motion. the particles of a solid barely vibrate at all, causing them to have a constant mass and volume. if the solid is heated, the particles move faster, colliding with one another causing them to bounce more violently and therefore they are able to break apart and move around each other, creating a liquid. as the material is heated this process continues until it becomes a gas. when the gas is heated (a lot) the particles begin smashing violently into each other, causing them to break up into smaller particles. these smaller particles are magnetized and really hot of course. so what happens is that the ionized air around the shielded entity becomes magnetically bonded with the plasma bieng emitted by the grenade, therefore bonding them. then i guess what happens is that the plasma outlet is not sufficient for the container to hold the massive amounts of plasma expanding inside the grenade, so it blows up, incinerating everything in it's blast radius. it is very simple and ingenious really. haha! home run for the kinetic theory of matter!

[Edited on 6/3/2004 7:34:48 PM]

  • 06.03.2004 7:33 PM PDT
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I believe this is one of those few instances where this matter really shouldn't be overthinked. I mean, for the sake of gameplay, his shield has to protect him, but can't hold bullets in, and I mean, what would be the point of a plasma grenade if it didn't stick? Yeah. It's just one of those things.

  • 06.03.2004 7:36 PM PDT
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The Spartan shields came from Elite shielding systems being copied and improved, not the Jackal plasma shield. The plasma grenade is thrown with plasma streaming from it... maybe that lets it partially penetrate the shielding that the MC uses... as plasma is more effective at draining shields.

[Edited on 6/3/2004 7:59:54 PM]

  • 06.03.2004 7:58 PM PDT
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Ok, before we all go crazy dealing with the effects of our meddling with Quantum physics, I would like to take a moment and say that if the covenent ever came to earth, they would be stopped dead in their tracks as this is a very confusing topic for most ordinary people (my lil bro came and looked at this, then didn't bother me for 2 hours.... most excellant)

  • 06.03.2004 8:04 PM PDT
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.. i feel like i'm at a D&D convention..

IT'S ONLY A GAME, GUYS
REPEAT
IT'S ONLY.. A GAME..

:]

  • 06.03.2004 8:16 PM PDT
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No it's not. Nah, but we like to debate and decide. Why should we be robbed of that if these forums are meant for such thought?

  • 06.03.2004 8:20 PM PDT
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lol, took a while for some posts on this topic.

i was sure it was from captured jackal shields, i'll go check the book now. suppose the theory of the plasma in the nades being able to get through the shield easier is a good idea though.

  • 06.04.2004 8:25 AM PDT