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Nobody's a saint.

Sigh. I was just in a team snipers match with someone that was 9! I cannot stress enough that somebody that does not know the meaning or is too young to know the words should not be playing a game like this. many people are *** holes in this game and younger players that hear this language and will become the future generations of jerks. Now we all know we all dont want this to happen... Why must parents buy games for children under 13 with this kind of language and violence...? Tell me why you think parents buy games for their kids.

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  • 09.12.2007 6:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Kevkili
Somebody got owned by a 6 year old...

QFT

But seriously... Who cares? Worry about your own life. It really gets old hearing people complain about little kids all day. I'm not a little kid or anything like that. I am just saying that people make such a big deal over nothing. If it is their voice that bothers you then mute them. If you are that worried about them picking up all these things you say on xbox live, then maybe you shouldn't say them when he is around... Find other things to do with your life, and stop posting on forums about how these games are ruining the youth of America... If the parents are willing to buy the game for their children, then who are you to tell somebody else how to raise their child? That is their decision. Even if it is not the right one, it shouldn't aggravate you this much.

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Because the Chief is the ultimate babysitter. As annoying as the squeakers are, they did learn their language from us. Maybe not you specifically, but they certainly didn't pull their vocabulary out of their ass.

  • 09.12.2007 6:42 PM PDT

Nobody's a saint.

Posted by: xMike Rocks15x
Posted by: Kevkili
Somebody got owned by a 6 year old...

QFT

But seriously... Who cares? Worry about your own life. It really gets old hearing people complain about little kids all day. I'm not a little kid or anything like that. I am just saying that people make such a big deal over nothing. If it is their voice that bothers you then mute them. If you are that worried about them picking up all these things you say on xbox live, then maybe you shouldn't say them when he is around... Find other things to do with your life, and stop posting on forums about how these games are ruining the youth of America... If the parents are willing to buy the game for their children, then who are you to tell somebody else how to raise their child? That is their decision. Even if it is not the right one, it shouldn't aggravate you this much.
I am complaining about their parents total disregard of their childrens future. Would you want your child(if you have one) be playing these games with this kind of enviorment?

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I personally would would have to make that decision based on how my child acted, but like I said. That decision is based on the parent. I am sure either the parents dont care. Or they know that the halo 2 isn't that bad I mean, every once in a while you find someone that swears up and down, but it isn't all the time. I don't really like little kids playing either. I thought I would just toss out the opposite view of the subject.

  • 09.12.2007 6:50 PM PDT

Check out my Halo 3 Machinma here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rNzxWp77Zo

Seriously where do these kids get the money?
And if you here these little kids swearing then well they are probably brats to begin with if they got a free xbox 360 and xbox live from their parents.
One time I heard a 8 year old boy say "im 8 because I cant get raped!"

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Now, my question to you is, do you actually know his age? Believe it or not, the xbox/360 headset changes your voice, it can make some people sound younger, older and even make your voice sound very nazely.

  • 09.12.2007 7:22 PM PDT

Check out my Halo 3 Machinma here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rNzxWp77Zo

Posted by: ZeroDefiance
Now, my question to you is, do you actually know his age? Believe it or not, the xbox/360 headset changes your voice, it can make some people sound younger, older and even make your voice sound very nazely.


it makes my voice a hella lot younger, My voice isint super deep its in the middle sorta a calm and nazzely voice yet the headset makes me sound squeaky : /

  • 09.12.2007 7:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: hedrought
Posted by: ZeroDefiance
Now, my question to you is, do you actually know his age? Believe it or not, the xbox/360 headset changes your voice, it can make some people sound younger, older and even make your voice sound very nazely.


it makes my voice a hella lot younger, My voice isint super deep its in the middle sorta a calm and nazzely voice yet the headset makes me sound squeaky : /


It'll make my voice nazely sometimes, and older others.

  • 09.12.2007 7:31 PM PDT

Nobody's a saint.

Posted by: ZeroDefiance
Now, my question to you is, do you actually know his age? Believe it or not, the xbox/360 headset changes your voice, it can make some people sound younger, older and even make your voice sound very nazely.
He said that he was 9

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Posted by: xMike Rocks15x
Posted by: Kevkili
Somebody got owned by a 6 year old...

QFT

whats that mean?

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Posted by: SPARTAN mjm
Posted by: ZeroDefiance
Now, my question to you is, do you actually know his age? Believe it or not, the xbox/360 headset changes your voice, it can make some people sound younger, older and even make your voice sound very nazely.
He said that he was 9


Oh, my bad.

  • 09.12.2007 7:46 PM PDT

QFT = Quoted for truth.

Anyway, yes, people are getting too young. I don't care if young'uns with skill play, but I once played with a two-four year old who kept cussing people out, then quit halfway through the match... That was just stupid. These games are rated M for a reason...

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I tend to agree that too many children play this game. It is rated M for a reason, and it is up to the parents to decide if their child should be exposed to this.... On that thought,some parents use games as a babysitter for their children, and don't care what the game is. As adult gamers, it's our responsibility to check our language during a match. Anybody that has a problem with that should review the policies and rules of using XBOX LIVE. If you hear someone dishing out too much vulgarity, report them. If it's a kid, let hime or her explain to their parents why their account has been suspended! If you yourself are one of those vulgar gamers, do us all a favor and take your headset off, you arent impressing anyone.

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if u hear a kid swearing and what not just simply ask him who bought him/her there xbox?

if the answer is mummy or daddy then ask them this....

"does mummy n daddy know what type of laungue ppl use on here or is ur voice output set to ur headset only?"

usually u never get a reply n they either shut up for the rest of the match or just leave straight away....

i think thst is the problem, partents of these small children that r playing wouldnt have a clue as to what there child is listening too over xbl as they wouldnt know that u could set the voice to come out of the tv n not just the headset....

if kids were forced to have there voice output set to come from the tv then there parents would hear what ppl say over xbl and then in my oppinion there would b alot less children on here as mummy n daddy would take halo off them...

that is just my oppinion....

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  • 09.12.2007 10:23 PM PDT
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I'm with you all the way Token!

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Speaking as a mom of 3 sons, I agree that the parents have the responsibility to monitor what their children are subjected to. As a Halo gamer, I too have noticed that there are recently more and more younger and younger children playing this game. Ok, may the violence of the game isn't half as bad as some of the other M rated games out there, but when you put your child on Live and give him a headset, you are subjecting him/her to all kinds of immoral and immature behavior. This in turn, teaches the child the improper way to conduct himself in a social setting and leads to problems later on. There needs to be more involvement with the parents. Sadly, many just do not care or cannot be bothered. Some don't understand that video games and Live REALLY DO affect their children's emotional growth. I'm sick and tired of these parents who have their children only to let someone else like Microsoft raise them. It's not the kids that are to blame, rather, they are the victims. All I can say is to gamers who come across children that are WAY too young to play, is to be kind (yes, even if they aren't...it's "LEARNED" behavior they are expressing after all). If they are completely unruly, just mute them.

  • 09.13.2007 7:49 AM PDT

Explosions of flavour
Check the ill-culinary behaviour

to put it another way
would you let your child of nine enter an M rated Chat room?
Because, take away the guns and that's what LIVE is and some of you people don't seem to make that connection.

A lot of it is laziness, but it's nothing new! When the bad parents of yesteryear relied on the TV to babysit the children there was no way for the rest of us to notice such bad parenting skills, but now with the popularity of the internet and it's ever increasing accessibility it becomes easier for us to notice all these children that should be enjoying the "Kiddy" part of life instead of trying to grow up too quickly. Most of us get 57 years of being an adult, the first 13 years being a child should be spent learning through decent play face to face with other children of the same age otherwise they grow up with no social skills, you shouldn't be ashamed of being a kid, you don't ever get those years back.

and why should we care about the way other people raise their children? because we are a society and we have to live together, we should look after each other. Would you tell me to keep my nose out of someone else's business if they were abusing their children? i hope not. But where do you draw the line? that's the difficult part.

the whole topic is one big minefield, but ignoring it isn't very responsible.


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  • 09.13.2007 8:19 AM PDT

Freedom of Speech does not equal "Freedom from Consequences when one speaks".

It is a right, and all rights have responsibilities associated with them. Ignore the responsibility, and you tend to lose the right.
Recon Number 54

I've said this before, but most parents these days view TVs, computers, and video games as electronic babysitters for their children, hence their strategic positioning within their children's bedrooms. They think, "I don't have to wonder where little Johnny is, he's up in his room, so what's the harm? I can go do what I want to do." No parental involvement like there used to be when I was that age.

The Halo series of games are rated M, and I understand that parents make a judgment call about this sort of thing. But XBox Live is another issue entirely. Most parents think they're allowing their children to play together with their friends over the Internet, not exposing them to language, racism, and behavior NO ONE should have to see/hear. As FemmeFatale pointed out, this is no place for a child. Again, lack of parental involvement/understanding is to blame.

It's a good thing that there are at least a few of us who find the fact that children are playing Halo online...troubling, to say the least. You sound like a great mom, FemmeFatale, and I'm glad there are people like you!

  • 09.13.2007 8:28 AM PDT

Freedom of Speech does not equal "Freedom from Consequences when one speaks".

It is a right, and all rights have responsibilities associated with them. Ignore the responsibility, and you tend to lose the right.
Recon Number 54

Posted by: ironman Tetsuo
to put it another way
would you let your child of nine enter an M rated Chat room?
Because, take away the guns and that's what LIVE is and some of you people don't seem to make that connection.

A lot of it is laziness, but it's nothing new! When the bad parents of yesteryear relied on the TV to babysit the children there was no way for the rest of us to notice such bad parenting skills, but now with the popularity of the internet and it's ever increasing accessibility it becomes easier for us to notice all these children that should be enjoying the "Kiddy" part of life instead of trying to grow up too quickly. Most of us get 57 years of being an adult, the first 13 years being a child should be spent learning through decent play face to face with other children of the same age otherwise they grow up with no social skills, you shouldn't be ashamed of being a kid, you don't ever get those years back.

and why should we care about the way other people raise their children? because we are a society and we have to live together, we should look after each other. Would you tell me to keep my nose out of someone else's business if they were abusing their children? i hope not. But where do you draw the line? that's the difficult part.

the whole topic is one big minefield, but ignoring it isn't very responsible.


Q F T !!!

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Posted by: B3OWULF
I've said this before, but most parents these days view TVs, computers, and video games as electronic babysitters for their children, hence their strategic positioning within their children's bedrooms. They think, "I don't have to wonder where little Johnny is, he's up in his room, so what's the harm? I can go do what I want to do." No parental involvement like there used to be when I was that age.

The Halo series of games are rated M, and I understand that parents make a judgment call about this sort of thing. But XBox Live is another issue entirely. Most parents think they're allowing their children to play together with their friends over the Internet, not exposing them to language, racism, and behavior NO ONE should have to see/hear. As FemmeFatale pointed out, this is no place for a child. Again, lack of parental involvement/understanding is to blame.

It's a good thing that there are at least a few of us who find the fact that children are playing Halo online...troubling, to say the least. You sound like a great mom, FemmeFatale, and I'm glad there are people like you!


Thank you, B3owulf. I don't claim to be perfect, not by a longshot. But what I do claim to be is a caring, informed, involved mother. Always have been, always will be. I play Halo (and quite a few other Xbox/360 games) right along side my kids. I do it because I enjoy the games, and it also has the extra added benefit of showing them I care about what they're up to and that I am interested in them as people and what they do. I take great pride in knowing that when they're having a conversation about something in a game, I can join in with intelligent comments about it. My sons' friends are constantly telling them they have a cool mom cuz she plays XBox and actually isn't half bad at most of the games either!

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  • 09.13.2007 8:47 AM PDT

Never eat yellow snow, unless of course, you spilled your Mt. Dew!

I severely doubt it was a 9 year old. I have a nephew that is 8 and a friend of mine has a kid that is 9. Just because someone says there are 9 doesn't mean they are. Above and beyond parents not caring what they buy their kids is how much they are allowing their kids to play it. Not the best babysitter in my opinion. Too many obese kids out there.

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Ratings are there for a reason. However trash talk over live happens in ALL games despite their rating. I agree its a bit of a mine field, and that its a difficult one to solve. The feedback system may evolve so that in matchmaking abusers are matched together and us sensible forum going folk can enjoy a swear-free atmosphere.

Or even better would be for microsoft to invest in research for the headset so that it automatically blams profanity! Or it could give the user an electric shock.

P.s I rarely wear the headset if playing with strangers as they would hear me cursing and blinding! Honest. I swear all the time.

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Im a younger generation player i'm 19, but if i had a kid i wouldn't give him the xbox headset, and i would let him play games like halo at 9 not anything with more gore, because i'm an avid gamer, and i remember when i was a kid playing games like doom and such, my kid wouldnt be subjected to swearing on xboxlive, but he can play games so he can get better at them and give himself a hobbie, but i will also make him do exercise :) it's not fair to blame just the parents, the kids could play it somewhere else.

  • 09.13.2007 9:00 AM PDT