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Poll: do you bxr, double shoot, or super bounce?  [closed]
yes:  50%
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no:  50%
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[Edited on 09.17.2007 4:43 AM PDT]

  • 09.17.2007 4:41 AM PDT
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nope I take advantage of no glitches what so ever. I think it takes some of the game away. I mean, the game was designed so that we would all be on equal footing which is what makes it challenging. If there's something besides skill that gives someone an advantage then we lose something from the game.

  • 09.17.2007 8:35 AM PDT

Nope, never. I refuse to button glitch.

  • 09.17.2007 8:55 AM PDT
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Nope but I don't mind the players that do. I just don't do it because they don't feel natural to me.

  • 09.17.2007 9:03 AM PDT

RIP Halo 2.

I'm not much of a superbouncer, but button glitching is a reflex for me. For example, any time I pull that left trigger, I press X immediately after even when I'm on host or splitscreen. It's just reflex.

  • 09.17.2007 9:05 AM PDT

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I BXR and sometimes Doubleshot, but NEVER superjump.

  • 09.17.2007 9:07 AM PDT
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Yeah, sure I do. I'm not going to sit here and say I don't do these things because I'm on Bungie.

SuperJumping
In Snipers, I'll bounce almost all the time on any map. Since previously being a member of Bounce FX, I can bounce on and out of nearly every map. In Double Team, I'll bounce with the ball or flag.

Button Glitches
Hell yeah! If you want a slight advantage over your opponent I'll BxR and DuB ShoT. Maybe pop a Quad ShoT in there every once in a while.

Bungie made the game the way it is, and if you want an advantage over the other team, you're goin' to need these things. Bungie says you're not allowed to use glitches, then they shouldn't have put them in the game...

  • 09.17.2007 9:15 AM PDT

RIP Halo 2.

Stuff like bouncing in Snipers and with objectives like the ball and flag are where I draw the line. That's just cheap.

  • 09.17.2007 9:18 AM PDT

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nope. i think it's cheap when you have an opponent almost dead and the turn around and bxr you. just because everybody can do it doesn't make it fair.

  • 09.17.2007 10:03 AM PDT

Posted by: oXzIdE
Bungie made the game the way it is, and if you want an advantage over the other team, you're goin' to need these things. Bungie says you're not allowed to use glitches, then they shouldn't have put them in the game...


Yes, because we all know Bungie secretly put glitches into the game to ruin the fairness and fun.

  • 09.17.2007 10:05 AM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

Posted by: BattleRifle BR55
Posted by: oXzIdE
Bungie made the game the way it is, and if you want an advantage over the other team, you're goin' to need these things. Bungie says you're not allowed to use glitches, then they shouldn't have put them in the game...


Yes, because we all know Bungie secretly put glitches into the game to ruin the fairness and fun.


Maybe they should have done a bit more research then.

  • 09.17.2007 10:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: KEVINBROCK
Posted by: BattleRifle BR55
Posted by: oXzIdE
Bungie made the game the way it is, and if you want an advantage over the other team, you're goin' to need these things. Bungie says you're not allowed to use glitches, then they shouldn't have put them in the game...


Yes, because we all know Bungie secretly put glitches into the game to ruin the fairness and fun.


Maybe they should have done a bit more research then.


You're an idiot, find me a game is mass-played like this, and does not have any glitches.

Bungie should be fixing stupid -blam!- like deleveling though, so I'm not gonna back them up all the way. All it would take is giving the option to boot someone if they are negative 3 or more, for example. Pushing past from 20-25 there was a deleveler in every other game, was stupid.

  • 09.17.2007 10:37 AM PDT
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Posted by: ClassifiedBlind
nope. i think it's cheap when you have an opponent almost dead and the turn around and bxr you. just because everybody can do it doesn't make it fair.


Wow you make my point in this matter exactly. Has no one ever heard of competitive advantage? I mean seriously guys. Why would you not want to do something like this. This is no in any way cheating. Like he said, everyone can do it. It's called practice. Have none of you ever played Mortal Combat? Button combos make the game tougher. If you don't like a tough game then yes I am sure you hate button glitches. What is wrong with turning around and BXRing someone after they got the first three shots in your back? Without BXR there is no way to make a comeback in a situation like that. The game would be plain and simple. Whoever got the first shot would win the battle because there would be no way to recover from someone getting the first shot. I mean guys, button comboing has been around in all kinds of games before this. Just because they programed it in makes it no different. Whoever has the better button combo just has an advantage. It doesn't make them invulnerable. It just gives them an advantage. I also won't lie I superbounce as well. I do agree that this part is cheap. But button comboing is as simple as it gets. Just practice guys. I know what you are saying right now. Halo isn't my life. Who practices at a video game. Well guess what. If you don't want to play with us competitors, just keep playing matchmaking. Because the people who are practicing the button combos and do get that advantage, will be the higher levels and you won't have to play with us. If you don't want to learn them then just don't, believe me we don't care if you use them or not. We would rather you don't anyways so we can get the match with you out of the way and move on to better players who do combo. Sorry to bust you bubble.

  • 09.17.2007 10:47 AM PDT
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Posted by: oXzIdE
Bungie made the game the way it is, and if you want an advantage over the other team, you're goin' to need these things. Bungie says you're not allowed to use glitches, then they shouldn't have put them in the game...

Maybe you should look up the word "Glitch" before you say Bungie meant to out them in the game moron.

  • 09.17.2007 10:56 AM PDT
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Maybe you shouldn't call people morons if you didn't read his post. He didn't say they meant to he said they did. They did put it in there but they did not mean to. Learn to comprehend what you read.

  • 09.17.2007 11:00 AM PDT

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Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

This thread needs to die. People who glitch in MM need to die. The attitude portrayed by CB BXR is so idiotic it shakes my confidence in the human race.

~B.B.

  • 09.17.2007 11:05 AM PDT
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And what attitude with that be? Are you unable in some way to press the B button and then X and R at the same time? If not then maybe you should re-evaluate your stance on this subject...

  • 09.17.2007 11:07 AM PDT

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Posted by: CB x BXR x
Maybe you shouldn't call people morons if you didn't read his post. He didn't say they meant to he said they did. They did put it in there but they did not mean to. Learn to comprehend what you read.


I think I'll stand up and correct you. Bungie DID NOT program glitches into Halo 2. And you are incorrectly calling them "button combos". Button combos, of many shapes and forms, are programmed into many, many console games as ways to unlock certain combat features. What glitchers take advantage of in H2 is the "X" cancel animation glitch, when done with other buttons, gains an advantage over other players not doing so.

Absolutely not a legitimate button combo!

  • 09.17.2007 11:10 AM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: CB x BXR x
And what attitude with that be? Are you unable in some way to press the B button and then X and R at the same time? If not then maybe you should re-evaluate your stance on this subject...


I can use button glitches but I choose not to because I know they are cheating and I also know that PAL-50 boxes have problems doing them consistently just like "physics glitches". Maybe you should learn up on the subject before you comment about it. You do realize that you are advocating cheating on the website of the developer who have said countless times that it is considered cheating by them and it invalidates your XBL terms of use agreement.

Look, I'm sure you think you know what you're talking about, but you couldn't be more wrong.

~B.B.

  • 09.17.2007 11:12 AM PDT

Posted by: CB x BXR x
Wow you make my point in this matter exactly. Has no one ever heard of competitive advantage? I mean seriously guys. Why would you not want to do something like this. This is no in any way cheating. Like he said, everyone can do it. It's called practice. Have none of you ever played Mortal Combat? Button combos make the game tougher. If you don't like a tough game then yes I am sure you hate button glitches. What is wrong with turning around and BXRing someone after they got the first three shots in your back? Without BXR there is no way to make a comeback in a situation like that. The game would be plain and simple. Whoever got the first shot would win the battle because there would be no way to recover from someone getting the first shot. I mean guys, button comboing has been around in all kinds of games before this. Just because they programed it in makes it no different. Whoever has the better button combo just has an advantage. It doesn't make them invulnerable. It just gives them an advantage. I also won't lie I superbounce as well. I do agree that this part is cheap. But button comboing is as simple as it gets. Just practice guys. I know what you are saying right now. Halo isn't my life. Who practices at a video game. Well guess what. If you don't want to play with us competitors, just keep playing matchmaking. Because the people who are practicing the button combos and do get that advantage, will be the higher levels and you won't have to play with us. If you don't want to learn them then just don't, believe me we don't care if you use them or not. We would rather you don't anyways so we can get the match with you out of the way and move on to better players who do combo. Sorry to bust you bubble.


Wow, a lot of that is completely untrue. Without button comboing there'd be no way to make a comback? How about dodging? It isn't that hard. Duck behind a wall, throw a grenade, come out and one-shot your opponent. Dead. If you can't do that, maybe YOU need more practice with your evasive skills. I have managed to kill quite a few people who get the first shot just by dodging. If you can't kill people when they get the first shot when there is no cover, don't run in the open. Learn your surroundings. That takes more skill than simply pressing B, X, and pulling the right trigger.

Your comparison to Mortal Kombat is entirely flawed. The two games are entirely different. Should we take turns shooting at each other because that would be more like an RPG game? This is a shooter, not a fighter.

This isn't hard to follow. It's listed as a cheat, don't use it.

  • 09.17.2007 11:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: CB x BXR x
And what attitude with that be? Are you unable in some way to press the B button and then X and R at the same time? If not then maybe you should re-evaluate your stance on this subject...

You don't press it all at the same time..
You press them after on another. If you think it takes some kind of skill then you don't know what skill is.

  • 09.17.2007 11:21 AM PDT
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The true point is, they're in the game, and people that know how to use them, will use them.

  • 09.17.2007 11:43 AM PDT
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I use the BxR and RRx. I consider neither of the two to be cheating, yet I do consider super jumping to be cheating. The BxR and RRx both require a moderate amount of skill to consistently perform. You do not simply press B, X, then R. It requires a melee followed by a shot to the head. Many people cannot BxR very well at all; landing the headshot after you cancel the melee is critical, and doing so on uneven footing or in midair is difficult indeed. The doubleshot is far more difficult to execute than the BxR, and as such its use is limited to the situations where there is no other option but than to use it. Landing six consecutive shots from the BR on an opposing player, who is most likely strafing to avoid fire in the first place, is not easy. In BR games, such as MLG, without the BxR and RRx many situations would simply come down to who fired first. You cannot honestly believe that in any given situation that you do not get the first shot, you will be able to find cover and retaliate in kind, especially in an FFA match or against a seasoned H2 player. Furthermore, if you have landed three shots on an opposing player, you should stay your ground either way on the off chance a sword or shotgun (which take far less skill to utilize than a BxR), is held as a secondary by the player you are coming so dangerously close to.
The BxR and doubleshot are both simply ways of improving the margin of skill that it takes to win a fight. I really think that the sword would be seen as a much greater annoyance than the BxR, really, in terms of lack of skill required to use... I try not to use it, but I have been able to bring a game where I was down by 10 or more back to win by a considerable margin by using that blue blade. Anyway, despise those who use the BxR, RRx, and BxB if you must, Halo 3 is just around the corner. No problems such as those should persist, and you can all have your fun.

  • 09.17.2007 11:51 AM PDT

i bounce often, BXB very very often and BXR occasionally.

  • 09.17.2007 11:59 AM PDT
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no.
im a GOOD person and player
unlike the person i quoted
Posted by: oXzIdE
Yeah, sure I do. I'm not going to sit here and say I don't do these things because I'm on Bungie.

SuperJumping
In Snipers, I'll bounce almost all the time on any map. Since previously being a member of Bounce FX, I can bounce on and out of nearly every map. In Double Team, I'll bounce with the ball or flag.

Button Glitches
Hell yeah! If you want a slight advantage over your opponent I'll BxR and DuB ShoT. Maybe pop a Quad ShoT in there every once in a while.

Bungie made the game the way it is, and if you want an advantage over the other team, you're goin' to need these things. Bungie says you're not allowed to use glitches, then they shouldn't have put them in the game...

PS dumbass, they didnt MEAN to put them in the game, their called glitches for a reason, stupid elitist

  • 09.17.2007 12:00 PM PDT

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