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Subject: if bxr/double shot is cheating why is super bounce not cheating?
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first off i dont bxr or double shot or even super bounce. from what i understand they say super bouncing isnt considered cheating because, although difficult, anyone CAN do it. but anyone CAN do bxr/double shot and this is cheating? why?

  • 09.17.2007 4:47 AM PDT
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They are both cheating

  • 09.17.2007 4:50 AM PDT
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i say theyre both cheating too, im talking about bungie's stance.

  • 09.17.2007 4:53 AM PDT
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Posted by: x5
i say theyre both cheating too, im talking about bungie's stance.


Bungie considers them both cheating, but they don't ban people for superbouncing.

  • 09.17.2007 4:57 AM PDT
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so they ban people for bxr/double shot? why not ban people for super bounce?

  • 09.17.2007 5:13 AM PDT

Posted by: x5
so they ban people for bxr/double shot? why not ban people for super bounce?

They don't ban people for any of those because they can't detect it.

  • 09.17.2007 5:29 AM PDT
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im not talking about how to do these things im asking why button glitches and super bouncing aren't both cheat bans

  • 09.17.2007 5:29 AM PDT

Posted by: x5
im not talking about how to do these things im asking why button glitches and super bouncing aren't both cheat bans

Bungie can't ban people for them because they can not detect them using the superbouces and BXR etc.

  • 09.17.2007 5:33 AM PDT

They're both cheating in matchmaking, but bungie can't ban you for them because they can't detect them.

  • 09.17.2007 5:41 AM PDT
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ah ok. seems like they should be able to detect a super bounce though, they have post game reports online that show everyone's position for every kill. ive read before that they dont even consider a super bounce a cheat because everyone has the same oppurtunity to perform one. i assumed it was the same with button glitches until a few posts down.

  • 09.17.2007 6:00 AM PDT
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why do i even bother coming here? if you dont know the answer dont pretend to and dont reply. from bungie faq:
"Many people are also aware of the "super jumping" phenomenon that allows players on some maps to jump to extreme heights. We are monitoring this situation for long term impacts to game balance but we are not banning people who do this simply because it's too widespread and is something that's basically built into the map. Anyone can do this if they want to though it is difficult to pull off in many cases. We will continue to monitor the impacts this bug has on our game."
like i said, so my question still remains unanswered.

  • 09.17.2007 7:00 AM PDT

I like to superbounce to have fun rocketing up 90 feet in the air, and lagging all the way down... I never stay up top and shoot at people though. That would be unfair, and I have seen people take advantage of that before.

It is cheating, but it's a lot harder to take advantage of if other power weapons are available on the map.

  • 09.17.2007 8:54 AM PDT
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Do you steal an apple from a store just because you can get away with it with no consequences? Do you have to have someone punish you in order for you to believe that it's wrong? Jeez, people....superbouncing AND button glitching are both cheating. It's been confirmed MANY times by Bungie that to do this in matchmaking is considered CHEATING. Regardless of whether or not they can ban you, you just simply shouldn't do it because it is WRONG to take advantage of a glitch to gain an unfair advantage over an opponent. If you can't beat the opposition using the normal weapons in the normal ways, and without having to superjump, then YOU are the true losers.

[Edited on 09.17.2007 10:16 AM PDT]

  • 09.17.2007 10:14 AM PDT

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--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

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They are both considered cheating by Bungie and XBL if used in MM. I have more than enough direct quotes to prove this, but just believe me. Both Animation glitches (button glitches) and Physics glitches (superjumps) are considered cheating. Bungie however cannot automatically ban you for them because they cannot automatically detect them via the "banhammer". You can be banned via the XBL interface if enough people leave you cheating feedback for doing them. They are cheating, but it's up to the player to be responsible for reporting the offenders. Just like if someone steals from you, it's your responsibility to report it to the police.

~B.B.

  • 09.17.2007 11:09 AM PDT