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Subject: Halo 3 How-to: Forge Object Editing
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Posted by: LaSt1LeFt
Hey dumbass, they pretty much explicitly stated that weapons would be on a screwed up timer. What does this have to do with forge? Well i want my weapons to be on a set timer, i hoped bungie would put this in seeing as how probably one of the largest problems with their matchmaking system was that they started you with a -blam!- weapon that was not capable of jack -blam!- and if the other team got a power weapon first it was over because there was no way of knowing when it would respawn. Well if bungie wants that bull-blam!- in matchmaking then fine, but i want to play in a fair game. Forge wont let us change that so it renders the weapon respawn timer almost useless. Who cares how long a weapon is going to take to respawn when only one team knows when it will come back anyway? They can wait all day because odds are that they took map control with that powerweapon and will probably have the ability to gain access to that weapon again or catch the other team while they are camping trying to grab it themselves at the wrong time.

I want the game to be fair. Forge sounds great, but i want the factors of the game that we have no control over not to be broken right out of the box. The fact that bungie has ignored the issue of weapon spawns is completely ridiculous and anyone who has ever played any other competitive shooter will agree. Dont fix what isnt broken. H1's spawn timers were not broken and bungie -blam!- them up in h2 along with a list of other things that werent broken.

Bungie can try to woo over people with fantastic extra features in their game but if the basics are not addressed then what is the point? I like the fact that we can fix all of bungie's mistakes on every map now. However, it would be lovely if bungie could at least fix their own problems. These are problems that will affect the longevity of the game, and i would hope bungie would be smart enough to realize it. Why did h1 last 3+ years whereas h2 lasted only half a year? Its the little things that count. Do the basics right then focus on the more advanced features. Bungie likes to skip the basics alltogether.

I have not played anything more than the beta as of yet, and i am currently looking forward to finishing the halo storyline. I do support bungie because they have proved to be a quality developer in the past, but i think that they have had a lapse in concentration with h2. Im hoping they get back on track and they have my half-vote of confidence. Here's to hoping h3 is 2 for 3 for bungie.


Dude, chill. The Forge-edited maps will pretty much be exclusive to CUSTOM games. Bungie said they might feature some fav map variants in Matchmaking, and chances are they'll be unranked anyway. And it was even said (in the latest update) that you don't have to change a thing and leave maps at their default settings. It's supposed to add a little fun and flavor to the multiplayer experience, mainly between XBL friends.

Bungie has my back and I am confident that I'll find some good usage of the Forge. ONE WEEK!

[Edited on 09.18.2007 9:19 PM PDT]

  • 09.18.2007 9:18 PM PDT
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We all know that people are going to find stuff they didnt include in Forge.

  • 09.18.2007 9:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Serpico 42
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Posted by: LaSt1LeFt
Hey dumbass, they pretty much explicitly stated that weapons would be on a screwed up timer. What does this have to do with forge? Well i want my weapons to be on a set timer, i hoped bungie would put this in seeing as how probably one of the largest problems with their matchmaking system was that they started you with a -blam!- weapon that was not capable of jack -blam!- and if the other team got a power weapon first it was over because there was no way of knowing when it would respawn. Well if bungie wants that bull-blam!- in matchmaking then fine, but i want to play in a fair game. Forge wont let us change that so it renders the weapon respawn timer almost useless. Who cares how long a weapon is going to take to respawn when only one team knows when it will come back anyway? They can wait all day because odds are that they took map control with that powerweapon and will probably have the ability to gain access to that weapon again or catch the other team while they are camping trying to grab it themselves at the wrong time.

I want the game to be fair. Forge sounds great, but i want the factors of the game that we have no control over not to be broken right out of the box. The fact that bungie has ignored the issue of weapon spawns is completely ridiculous and anyone who has ever played any other competitive shooter will agree. Dont fix what isnt broken. H1's spawn timers were not broken and bungie -blam!- them up in h2 along with a list of other things that werent broken.

Bungie can try to woo over people with fantastic extra features in their game but if the basics are not addressed then what is the point? I like the fact that we can fix all of bungie's mistakes on every map now. However, it would be lovely if bungie could at least fix their own problems. These are problems that will affect the longevity of the game, and i would hope bungie would be smart enough to realize it. Why did h1 last 3+ years whereas h2 lasted only half a year? Its the little things that count. Do the basics right then focus on the more advanced features. Bungie likes to skip the basics alltogether.

I have not played anything more than the beta as of yet, and i am currently looking forward to finishing the halo storyline. I do support bungie because they have proved to be a quality developer in the past, but i think that they have had a lapse in concentration with h2. Im hoping they get back on track and they have my half-vote of confidence. Here's to hoping h3 is 2 for 3 for bungie.


See what i mean?!

  • 09.18.2007 9:32 PM PDT

I am so stoked for this game to come out. While reading this update my mouth actually started watering a little bit. See you guys online at 12:30 next Tuesday morning!

  • 09.18.2007 9:51 PM PDT

Hooah!

yo...

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Awesome..still would like a confirmation of if forge is 4 player split screen though..

Seriously, its driving me up the wall!!

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So in regards to the "blown up tire on the plane" I am assuming that he is saying that something is broke with the Forge portion of Halo 3. And that broken thing is that you will not be able to stop others from editing once you start playing in Forge.

If so, will this be fixed in a update? If we are to simply rely on the honor system I do not think this will last long with certain "less mature" gamers.

OR - am I just reading this wrong?

If he is trying to explain a mistake in the game, this is a bad analogy. If that is what he is writing about then he should just say - we screwed this feature up but here is a work-around.

I am confused but still appreciative of the info. Please help with some answers.

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  • 09.18.2007 10:36 PM PDT
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Great update, I used to play Timesplitters mapmaker all the time and although Forge isnt going to be like it, it has some of it's qualities and more - I'm probably going to be one of those guys that comes up with loads of gametypes! Good Job Bungie!

  • 09.19.2007 12:56 AM PDT
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EVERYONE!!!!
go to the screen shots!!!
the 2nd picture has blue spartans!!!!
AND!!!!
A NEW HELMET TYPE!!!!!!!!!

the blue spartan all the way to the right!! =]]

zoom in XD ur welcome.

  • 09.19.2007 6:57 AM PDT
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Posted by: anarchy1993

EVERYONE!!!!
go to the screen shots!!!
the 2nd picture has blue spartans!!!!
AND!!!!
A NEW HELMET TYPE!!!!!!!!!

the blue spartan all the way to the right!! =]]

zoom in XD ur welcome.


I'm prettty sure your not the only one who noticed this :-) I did yesterday also

  • 09.19.2007 7:27 AM PDT
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Posted by: Every Puga
Will a plasma pistol overcharge disable the Monitor like it does the vehicles?

Now that is a good question.


That is a very good question. :) What's the word on that?
Will it:
A) disable the monitor?
B) disable the monitor's shields?
C) do nothing special?

Personaly, I would love to see it disable the monitor. I can see the monitor dropping from the sky like a stone in my mind's eye. LOL. It's probably not likely, tho. The monitor is Forerunner technology. Could a single overcharged plasma pistol shot take out a Sentinel in H1 & H2? I can't remember.

  • 09.19.2007 8:38 AM PDT

How sweet it is to be in love with.... Mister Chief

Check out an hilarious song about Master Chief below:

myspace.com/thesaboteursrock

  • 09.19.2007 11:39 AM PDT

is it possible to add money to your budget? Does it involve Microsoft points?

  • 09.19.2007 12:24 PM PDT
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I'm still a little confused on the Budget thing but overall this is quite helpful for Halo 3, even though we cant put it to the test until the 25th.

HALO 3 is gonna rock!!!

why is it that when i check for a new full story i see like 5 pages already filled out? EVERY TIME , and i never seem to get the 1st post too

  • 09.19.2007 12:28 PM PDT
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cool

  • 09.19.2007 1:07 PM PDT

We'll Defend Earth From The Covenant And We'll Destroy Them All.

If It's Our Time To Die, It's Our Time. All I Ask Is If We Have To Give These Bastards Our Lives We Give Them Hell Before We Do!

We Are Born To Fight And We'll Die Figthing.

Bungie please tell me that is not the real ending of Halo 3 on youtube.

  • 09.19.2007 1:10 PM PDT
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I have always loved the idea of being able to create or edit your own level.

It is just so easy for Bungie to screw this up, I just hope they give you enough leash to be able to change much. I hope that you will be able to drop a warthog on your opponents

Why do you have to have a budget and how much money to you get?
Posted by: Gnappy As5A5sin
I have wanted this for years without ever knowing it.


Will there be a patch for the restricted to host thing?

I figure there will be eventually and those that don't have live won't need to worry about it, but it'd be nice to know.

  • 09.19.2007 1:36 PM PDT
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I don't think that it is the real ending on Youtube because microsoft released a commercial that looks alot like it and that would just be stupid if it was.

I think that Bungie is just trying to get everyone to talk about it. I know they are not that stupid to release the ending. Don't you think that someone would have hacked in and gotten the whole story by now?

  • 09.19.2007 1:38 PM PDT

Sounds like a fun feature that will add quite a bit to the gameplay. I can imagine this will also be a boon for video creation. Might make some interesting game types, ie a maze of some sort

  • 09.19.2007 2:30 PM PDT
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I just love the "user definable" feature; it adds so much more depth to the game. What would add even more, though, is the ability to create your own maps and quirks... (as in, an entirely new map... not just a modified version of one of the built-in ones)

  • 09.19.2007 4:48 PM PDT

Posted by: lukems
Those are Tyson's words, not mine ;)


I know I was too lazy to type a new name in the quote box.

But come on I know that you also know the answer to my question!

  • 09.20.2007 8:25 PM PDT
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hey whats up halo players im kinda trying 2 put up a clan so if u want 2 join my clan just message me and give me ur gamertag so i can send u a clan invite

  • 09.22.2007 10:02 AM PDT
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thx

  • 09.22.2007 10:03 AM PDT

Got a quick question about forge. does it give the user the ability to place objects (weapons, spawn points, items, etc.) in the air? or do they have to be resting on something? Like the ground or a box? I haven't read anything about that ability. It seems like anything placed would automatically fall to the ground.

Thanks.

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Posted by: the Judicator
Got a quick question about forge. does it give the user the ability to place objects (weapons, spawn points, items, etc.) in the air? or do they have to be resting on something? Like the ground or a box? I haven't read anything about that ability. It seems like anything placed would automatically fall to the ground.

Thanks.


I have the same question! It's actually the only reason I came to this thread. someone please answer?

  • 10.01.2007 12:33 PM PDT