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Subject: How hand to hand combat would work
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Ok, this is how I think hand to hand combat without a weopon would work; if you don't have any weapon (like the begining of POA) the melee button/B-button would make master chif through a single left jab, press it twice and he'll through a left jab and a right cross, press it three times and the combo would be left jab, right cross, and then a left hook, and then the right trigger is a right uppercut, so you could go up to an elite and through an amazing combo like jab, cross, hook, uppercut.

For some people who don't know:
Jab - A strait, left hand punch
Cross - A strait right hand punch
Left hook - A left punch to the side of the head
Right uppercut - A right punch coming from below and hitting the chin of your opponent for a knockout!

As for the elite:
B-button once: Left, powerful hook to the side of the head
B-button twice: Right palm strike to the chest
B-button three times: A large, left, open hand palm strike to the left side of the head
Right trigger: A swinging left back fist to the face

Palm strike: An open-hand strike... hitting the person with the palm of your hand
Left back fist: Stretch your left arm to the right side of your body and swing it in front of you to hit the person with the back of your knuckles or fist.

I am in boxing and I can tell you now that a back fist is one of the most strongest and powerful punches I have thrown, seen, and experienced.



[Edited on 6/3/2004 11:10:33 PM]

  • 06.03.2004 10:59 PM PDT
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Creative but this is a first person shooter not mortal combat. I dont think bungie would want to get that in depth

[Edited on 6/3/2004 11:04:56 PM]

  • 06.03.2004 11:04 PM PDT
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How the heck is it like mortal combat !? its just a way to defend yourself without a weapon.
Its still in first person view, I could sooo picture this.

[Edited on 6/3/2004 11:06:23 PM]

  • 06.03.2004 11:05 PM PDT
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Interesting, how do you know that it will be a four hit combination? Also, for the elite, the fourth strike should be a left backfist as the left hand would have passed through the target and will already be prepared to strike the target, it will make it a much faster combination and will flow better.

  • 06.03.2004 11:07 PM PDT
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Who said I knew this would be a four hit combo, its something I made up. And good thinking about the left backfist, I'll edit it right away

  • 06.03.2004 11:09 PM PDT
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Appreciate the thought put into it, but in my opinion, I'd rather not see punch combos in the game. Everyone seems to want to play without a gun or weapon, and while that's a fun novelty Multiplayer mode to think about, it's not practical in gameplay. How many times in Halo did you not have a weapon? The game developers wont make it to where you have to rely on hand to hand throughout the game. Ok, so I don't know what the developers are going to do, no one does, but I believe the original gameplay of Halo that made the game so great doesnt need something as complicated (and yes, it sounds simple, but the powerful as a tank masterchief wouldn't need a combo) as boxing to add to gameplay. I never liked the idea of melee combos in the first place, but I believe it would be useless in MP. It's easy enough to duck away in a punching match as it is, a lengthy combo would take too long in my opinion.

  • 06.03.2004 11:32 PM PDT
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ace 777 good idea he dose some fighting in the books it would work well in the game
but dont limit it to just punching have a low kick to snap a elites leg i do muay thai
and ground fighting ju jutsu and some of the stuff in that kills me lol
The chief used some grappling moves on a Brute in First Strike i loved it lol

  • 06.04.2004 1:12 AM PDT
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I sure like the idea. It would make the game more immersive. One of the things I'm looking forward to is expanded melee combat with smarter enemies.

Edit: I'm not a big fan of the whole button combo thing where the idea is to make it hard to do, I just want melee combat to offer more depth and options, instead of just one basic swipe. I would like to be able to choose between a slower, heavier strike and a faster, lighter one or something. Maybe you'll start with a quick stunning attack so you can follow with something more damaging, I dunno. If you've played Jedi Outcast or Academy, you should know how much more fun it is to have lots of control over what you're doing.

[Edited on 6/4/2004 1:59:51 AM]

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i'll be happy with however it turns out... but the main thing is, if you dont have a gun, just make it the triggers in the first place, no B pressing stuff if your going to have to follow your enemy in your sites..

  • 06.04.2004 3:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: Elarith
i'll be happy with however it turns out... but the main thing is, if you dont have a gun, just make it the triggers in the first place, no B pressing stuff if your going to have to follow your enemy in your sites..


Yeah thats true

  • 06.04.2004 4:34 AM PDT
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I don't see this ever happening because Bungie has said on many occasions that they don't want htis to be a generic FPS and since Chronicles of Riddick ,or Breakdown even, just came out with a full first-person fighting system I doubt Bungie will want to put a dumbed down version of that or any version for that matter. But, like Dobber83 said it just wouldn't fit into the game either.

  • 06.04.2004 6:52 AM PDT
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this is a stupid idea.since when did MC turn into mike tyson?

  • 06.04.2004 6:59 AM PDT
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Jamesmacgregor, you obviously haven't read the books, master chief got out of alot of situations through fighting, in fall of reach 4 marines challenged him on in the ring so masterchief did that and at the end the marines had broken bones everywhere and some were even dead. Another time was when masterchief tried on his Mark V armour with no weapon inside a tent outside, about more than 6 ODST's came in the tent with asault rifles trying to kill him, masterchief got through that bunch and picked up a tent poll and started whacking them with it, every ODST there had a broken something and all lived except for one guy who I feel really sorry for when masterchief palmstriked his chest and it caved in. Master chief is trained to fight you know.

  • 06.04.2004 7:22 AM PDT
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Wow, zeus185, I do muay thai too!
I get taught at "Gibson Pankration" (a very famous place)

  • 06.04.2004 7:23 AM PDT
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Posted by: jamesmacgregor
this is a stupid idea.since when did MC turn into mike tyson?



READ THE DAMN BOOKS he,d slap tyson around like a -blam!-

  • 06.04.2004 7:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: ace 7 7 7
Wow, zeus185, I do muay thai too!
I get taught at "Gibson Pankration" (a very famous place)


Yeah iv heard somthing about that m8 i think thay teach grappling thare too

  • 06.04.2004 7:27 AM PDT
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yup, grappling, kickboxing, boxing

  • 06.04.2004 7:28 AM PDT
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i love ground fighting the most but iv got a passion for thai boxing too
i love the 2 of them

  • 06.04.2004 7:30 AM PDT