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Subject: Master Chief and his Spartans
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There is some speculation that Kelley and Dr. Halsey went to get the other spartans? I would have to say no to this because earlier in the story it says that the flash clones they took of the original spartans ended up dying... However there is definetly more the 1 spartan left after FS, so does something terrible happen on their way back to earth and only Master Chief survives? But then Kelley would survive too. Maybe Kelley and Dr. Halsey come into the story later and that would explain why Kelley wasnt in the e3 2003 demo. But where in the universe could they have gone? I dont think they went searching for another Halo ring, chances of finding one of the 27(?) rings would be pretty darn slim. So far I think the best speculation is that she went to get the other spartans...but as I said in the story it was told that the clones of the original spartans died. So is she goign to get the Mark VI? I think she is going to get somekind of weapon or some new technology that ONI was working on, but what could it be? Let me see your thoughts people!

  • 06.03.2004 11:07 PM PDT
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The other Spartans are new children they were training, there's a 25-30 year gap between when Masterchief became a Spartan and now, so there's plenty of time to train brand new recruits. The flash clones were the children they replaced the Spartans with, the ones they gave back to the families so they wouldnt notice, not the next spartans

[Edited on 6/3/2004 11:51:03 PM]

  • 06.03.2004 11:50 PM PDT
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The Flash Clones were only produced to replace the Spartan-II children that were kidnapped for their families sakes; they had nothing to do with the Spartan project outside of such. Spartan-IIIs could have been created by sufficing through direct clones of the Spartan-IIs or maybe they're just a new batch of kids all of their own. The Spartan-3 theory, or rather the theory of a new batch of Spartans seems feasible, after all CPO Mendez even states he is off to train a new batch.

Also as for the other Spartans with John, they don't necessarily die. They might very well be in Halo 2. And as for searching for other Halo rings, it is possible, it never said the stone that pointed out the location of the first Halo ring and Reach were the ONLY locations on the stone, possibly more?

  • 06.03.2004 11:53 PM PDT
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I this out of topic? I thought we are discussing Halo 2 not the novels. You are refering to the novels right?

  • 06.03.2004 11:53 PM PDT
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Darn, Dobber beat me to it...

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everybody thinks that the story of halo2 will be precisely the same as the story of FS, you guys in halo 1 you didn't even know about docter Halsey!!!
So even know the story can't get even to that of halo 2, becaus you will have to be introduced to dr. Halsey in halo2 and nothing says this will happen!
I just think the books and the game story are to diffrent things, the game story is just smaller, bungie wants the game to have a good story line but not getting every 5 minutes into a movie where they start talking about the past!
Bungie wants it to become a incredible shooter game (what it will be/is) and the story and details that you can get out of the books!
But the story line of the books and game are really diffrent so stop comparing them!

  • 06.03.2004 11:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: Reclaimer NL
everybody thinks that the story of halo2 will be precisely the same as the story of FS, you guys in halo 1 you didn't even know about docter Halsey!!!
So even know the story can't get even to that of halo 2, becaus you will have to be introduced to dr. Halsey in halo2 and nothing says this will happen!
I just think the books and the game story are to diffrent things, the game story is just smaller, bungie wants the game to have a good story line but not getting every 5 minutes into a movie where they start talking about the past!
Bungie wants it to become a incredible shooter game (what it will be/is) and the story and details that you can get out of the books!
But the story line of the books and game are really diffrent so stop comparing them!


Actually they're not that different. In fact the second book, Halo: The Flood, is practically identical to the game. Yes I realize where you're coming from here, and I'm not insinuating that FS will be Halo 2, I'm just saying certain issues that arise in FS will/may be brought up in Halo 2. Just as some issues brought up in Pillar of Autumn arise in Halo (such as the creation of Spartans, the discovery of Halo, etc). They intertwine quite well actually, it's just the games storyline is more progressive of course to interest the gamer more. I'm not saying FS is Halo 2, again, but FS will influence the games direction most likely.

  • 06.04.2004 12:00 AM PDT
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But the story line of the books and game are really diffrent so stop comparing them!

Sorry, you're wrong, Eric Nylund, the author of the Halo books, worked closely with Bungie when he wrote the stories. Anything he put in the books and anything about the story between Halo and Halo 2 is what happens before the game. Such as the battle rifle they get in FS, and the new pistol which you may have in Halo 2, anything in the books is legit to the story.

  • 06.04.2004 12:01 AM PDT
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Dobber if you want to react at my post read the whole story, i said that the books got more into the details of the story, and the game is just more fighting (while in the game if you look good you can find some fun stuff about the story behind halo/2)

I only said that you guys have to stop comparing them, i didnt say there werent any resemblences in halo and the flood or the other books (actually there are a lot)
but what most people do now a days, they are comparing the whole books with the whole story of halo/halo2!!!
The books just have more detail and more story line the the game, you can better see the books as the background of the game then really compare it!!!

  • 06.04.2004 12:24 AM PDT
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Eric Nylund wasnt the only author, someone else wrost the flood, not sure who...but so the other spartans werent flash clones? i might reread the bookes more closesly this time...but i couldve sworn that doctor halsey said (to herself) in firststrike that the clones for the next spartans died...anyways i dunno,,,i am just really excited and need somethn to talk about...and the forums really really help. But any clues you have to the story line plz give them to me, as long as the dont ruin everything.

  • 06.04.2004 12:35 AM PDT
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In short:

Fight on earth, get introduced at new features of halo2 ->
Handeling, weapons, enemys, effects ect ect.

Kick them of the planet after some real big havy fights!

Then see there is a ringworld nearby earth -> halo 2
Go on there and kick some covie and flood ass (maybe meat phrofet or something)

Find out where the covies live, survive the way to there world (by attacking covie ships)
Then get there fight it out with the covenant and your strong squad (maybe spartans)
Get to phrofet and do whatever needed, to keap the human race living!

IN REAL BIG LINES I THINK THIS WILL HAPPEN (or sortha)

  • 06.04.2004 12:46 AM PDT
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Thx Reclaimer...i think that will probably be an accurate assumption...MC will "take the fight to the covenant"!

  • 06.04.2004 12:47 AM PDT
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Yes to the covenant homeworld!
thats what bungie said!

[Edited on 6/4/2004 1:20:11 AM]

  • 06.04.2004 1:19 AM PDT
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Funny that I just wrote the same thing in another thread. There should be other spartans in halo2 and they should have that new rifle and that cool pistol. I read in a xbox magazine that MC gets a new suit I was wondering if he already has it in the E3 movie.
How funny was it how sgt.johnson said " help me carry this thing it weighs as much as your last girl friend" when one of them is knocked out.( spartans are about 500kg if you didnt know )

[Edited on 6/4/2004 2:12:29 AM]

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