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Subject: Pistol or No-pistol in halo 2???
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Poll: Should there or should there not be a pistol in halo 2  [closed]
there better be a pistol!!:  23%
(12 Votes)
yes and it better be the EXACT same!!!:  15%
(8 Votes)
yes pistol but weaker:  31%
(16 Votes)
no pistol!!!:  13%
(7 Votes)
pff i dont care either way:  17%
(9 Votes)
Total Votes: 52

I've been wondering from day 1 of halo pc if they will keep the pistol in halo 2, if theyve all ready made an announcement about this one. Please shoot me. But other then that.. what do you guys think the bungie folk will do with the pistol?

  • 06.04.2004 3:01 PM PDT
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[color=pink] damnit i've said this already once today, this is my theory that the pistol will MOST LIKEY be in halo 2. ok here are the facts

old assault rifle = new smg

old pistol = new battle rifle

BUT

every covenant weapon has a similar human weapon.

plasma rifle - battle rifle

needler - smg

plasma pistol - ..... NEW PISTOL? [/color]

  • 06.04.2004 3:07 PM PDT
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Actually Bungie compares the Battle Rifle to the Carbine.

  • 06.04.2004 3:09 PM PDT
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BLAST, FOILED AGAIN!

  • 06.04.2004 3:10 PM PDT
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There will probably be the new pistol from first strike in halo2. Its bigger, more powerful, but doesnt have a scope and is inaccurate at longer ranges.

  • 06.04.2004 3:17 PM PDT
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The next pistol wont be as good as the one from the first game. The new one will lose the scope, and the range wont be as far as the one from the other game due to that the BR takes the spot for medium range shooting. They might not keep the explosive rounds, but that would make the pistol the equivalent to the old Needler.

  • 06.04.2004 4:07 PM PDT
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The thing people seem to forget is that the Battle Rifle is not like the pistol in the way that you can't fire pistol-like without zoom, it's like a half-sniper half-pistol crossed with an AR.

  • 06.04.2004 4:12 PM PDT
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Look. Bungie never said anything was replaced. And the M6D is just fine as is. Maybe tone it down in MP, but that's it. Heck in SP it takes 8 shots just to kill the Chief with it on Legendary mode, all of whcih hit the head. The MA5B was fine to. As for equvalents.

MA5B = Plasma Rifle
M6D = Plasma Pistol
Battle Rifle = Covenant Carbine
M90 = No Covenant Equivalent...yet
M19 SSM = Fuel Rod Gun
Sub Machine Gun = Needler
New Pistol = No Covenant Equivalent...yet
No Human Equivalent...yet = Plasma Sword
S2 AM = No Covenant Equivalent...yet

With all that said if you really think about it, MP aside, all the weapons are well balanced out. You have it like this for the humans, which just so happen to balance out well with the Covenant. (This is SP of course)

M19 SSM
S2 AM
New pistol
M90
M6D
BR
MA5B
SMG

However twenty bucks says over half of you will disagree with me on the MA5B and M6D returning. *sigh*

[Edited on 6/4/2004 4:14:40 PM]

  • 06.04.2004 4:14 PM PDT
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I read in halo first strike that they get a new pistol with bullets the size of you thumb.

  • 06.04.2004 4:54 PM PDT
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The Mark VI armor might tone down the pistol enough to make everyone happy.

Best combo might become plasma pistol and M6D.

Aslo the Brute weapon might bet he equivalent to the the pistol mentioned in First Strike. Good damge between medium to short range, the only thing the Brute Gun has on the FS pistol would be melee damage.

  • 06.04.2004 5:04 PM PDT
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Info is never in short supply with you, is it, Hikaru? Anyway, he said it best why the pistol will probably be making it back. Of course, I have a few doubts. The 'new pistol' may take the old pistol's place, and I wouldn't put it beyond Bungie to stab our old friend, M6D in the back.
Anyway, I'm pro-pistol. I think it may have been a bit powerful, but I saw it as an overall balanced weapon. It was dominant at medium to fairly close range because there were no other medium range weapons. Plus that's where most of your fighting took place. People use it all the time because it's most potent at a range people fight at the most often. It's hard to say it's that unbalanced when you have nothing to compare it to. Besides, somebody with the pistol, unless a master with it, doesn't have a chance against the plasmarifle at close range.
[here's where it gets a bit psychotic]

Remember the old song children, "Make new friends, but keep the oh-old. One is silver and the other gold! *repeat several times and throw in some other lines I've forgotten*"

Don't sell out old weapons when they're still functional and have their own place in the Halo weapons-rack.

  • 06.04.2004 5:05 PM PDT
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If Bungie puts in dual-wielding but throws out the pistols (meaning no dual-pistols), they are all complete dumbasses. I am 100% sure that they are not, so pistols are in!

  • 06.04.2004 5:17 PM PDT
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[Puts pistol on a block and picks up an axe]

Off with its head!

[Edited on 6/4/2004 5:22:53 PM]

  • 06.04.2004 5:22 PM PDT
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From Frankies update

I also animated the first-person CENSORED (both single and dual shot), so that should be in the game and working now…it looks pretty cool, but it’s definitely a lot weaker than CENSORED and it has CENSORED now, so people are probably going to CENSORED and CENSORED. Oh well, all’s fair in the cruel world of gameplay balance.

This could be the pistol. Look when I interpret it.

[color="violet"]I also animated the first-person human pistol (both single and dual shot), so that should be in the game and working now…it looks pretty cool, but it’s definitely a lot weaker than the original human pistol and it has no scope now, so people are probably going to curse and complain. Oh well, all’s fair in the cruel world of gameplay balance."[/color]

  • 06.04.2004 5:37 PM PDT
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I read in halo first strike that they get a new pistol with bullets the size of you thumb.

have you ever seen a .50 cal bullet? they are friggin huge. thats what the original pistol used. a .50 caliber (or 12.7 mm) HE bullet is powerful enough (in real life) to blow a chunck out of a man the size of a grapefruit. the pistol from halo 1 is comprable to the desert eagle, a .50 cal handgun used by the US army. you can put a scope on it, because it IS that accurate. anyone who says the pistol in Halo 1 is overpowered is an idiot. if anything, it is underpowered. the only unreal aspect is the 12 round magazine. 7 is realistic.

[Edited on 6/4/2004 6:02:23 PM]

  • 06.04.2004 5:59 PM PDT
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This could be the pistol. Look when I interpret it.

I also animated the first-person human pistol (both single and dual shot), so that should be in the game and working now…it looks pretty cool, but it’s definitely a lot weaker than the original human pistol and it has no scope now, so people are probably going to curse and complain. Oh well, all’s fair in the cruel world of gameplay balance."


Damn! End of discussion...you win!

  • 06.04.2004 6:05 PM PDT
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If theres no pistol then I'm going to get pisted off.

  • 06.04.2004 6:07 PM PDT