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Subject: Do you think that Bungie cares about it's Computer Gaming Fanbase?
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no[pe

  • 03.14.2008 2:22 PM PDT
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NOt just Bungie Anymore
http://www.moddb.com/engines/4/unreal-engine-3/news/26846/unr eal-engine-4-will-exclusively-target-consoles
Kick in the fking teeth

  • 03.14.2008 2:28 PM PDT
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Yup,

See my earlier comment about it:

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"And just when we thought Bungie betrayed Computer Gaming as we know it...

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=167808

Tim Sweeny, you have now been dubbed the title of "Senior -blam!-."

I mean wtf? What are wrong with you people? Is the entire PC gaming community infected with an incurable disease? Does everyone suddenly have AIDS that will spread to developers if they make PC games? I mean come on.

The new cryengine2 can run well on a freakin $600 computer, that you are probably going to buy anyway, for doing work. So don't give me this bulls***. You don't need a "big bad computer" and spend $5000 on an alienware computer to get UT3 up and running. You can spend 300 bucks on a videocard, and you're set. That's $300 bucks compared to the $500 cost of the PS3 and Xbox 360.

If rampant piracy is the problem, just put on better security. The PC is the BEST CONSOLE for gaming.

Tim Sweeny, until he turns back, is a deserting unproductive jacka**.""

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  • 03.14.2008 2:57 PM PDT
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  • 03.14.2008 3:09 PM PDT
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This morning, gamepro released another article on a developer ditching the pc for the console. Id software is next one to fall. I hope we can still hold valve until Half-Life 2 Episode 3, lol. BTW, when the hell is Halo 3 Vista coming out?

  • 03.20.2008 7:32 AM PDT

It's amazing how stupid people are these days..

  • 03.20.2008 7:56 AM PDT
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Meh at least PCPP has a better description of how it is when it comes to games >.>
Consoles VS PC
PC will win no matter how much Xbox tries, because in the end no Xbox will be upgradeable with a better CPU. GPU, RAM or better cooling so it doesn't die from heat, in the end one way or another the Xboxes will die and PS3 and the WII will be the only true consoles left

  • 03.20.2008 4:34 PM PDT
Subject: And just when we thought Bungie betrayed us...
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Posted by: Desert Fox RWTF
You are running off the assumption that software rendering is completely dead, which is an incorrect assumption.


Can you give me an example of a modern, graphically demanding game that will run with software rendering?

  • 03.22.2008 6:49 PM PDT
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Its easy to test the topic really...
Just make 2 posts that will most definitely get you banned on H3 forum then here, by two separate people and see who gets banned first.

  • 03.23.2008 2:57 AM PDT
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Tomorrow Assassin's Creed is coming out for the PC. Sure the game is not INCREDIBLE, but look at it this way. It's a port, where the original game came out approximately the same time as Halo 3. My question is still, Where is my Halo 3? It's obviously feasible to make the port in a matter of three months, so what's with all the hubbub bub? Hopefully we wont have to wait too long for a GTA IV port. That's the one I'm primarily concerned with. April 29th...can't wait for my friend to get it, so I can play it on his Wii60.

  • 04.07.2008 3:07 PM PDT

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Assassin's creed will be a nicely worked on port. It'll have 6 more missions in the PC exclusive director's cut. It might not be something I'm interested in because it might be repetitive or have no replay value, but it was still a more hardly worked on port of the 360/ps3 game. Better than then the work put into H2V by MS. Well, the assassin's creed team still kinda cares about PC gamers.

  • 04.07.2008 3:41 PM PDT

Posted by: madkiller92
Assassin's creed will be a nicely worked on port. It'll have 6 more missions in the PC exclusive director's cut. It might not be something I'm interested in because it might be repetitive or have no replay value, but it was still a more hardly worked on port of the 360/ps3 game. Better than then the work put into H2V by MS. Well, the assassin's creed team still kinda cares about PC gamers.
Because Assassins Creed was made by Ubisoft, and Ubisoft actually cares.

  • 04.07.2008 6:23 PM PDT
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Bungie is a console company. Bungie is not a PC company. Bungie was a MacIntosh company. Now, it is not. Get it over with, please.

  • 04.07.2008 6:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: SpartanGeneral7
Bungie is a console company. Bungie is not a PC company. Bungie was a MacIntosh company. Now, it is not. Get it over with, please.


Interesting comment, but what you should consider is that while companies do tend to focus on single platforms, being the consoles or the pcs, they tend to also care about their name and reputation. For example, Epic Studios ported Gears of War with their first hand involvement. Assassin's Creed is ported, and Mass Effect is coming next month. These were all "console games." I'm sure Bungie has time to take a handful of pros and churn out a good port in three months, as everyone else is doing...

At the end of the day, the question is why does your company develop games? Do they love to make games, and the money allows them to keep dreaming up the greatest games ever?...OR...Do they love money, and the making of games is just a business where they manufacture any random c*** as long as it makes a profit?

Bungie always has a choice. It is never too late to turn back, or to toss us a bone. But they don't seem to want to turn back anytime soon.

  • 04.07.2008 9:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: Recoton007
Bungie always has a choice. It is never too late to turn back, or to toss us a bone. But they don't seem to want to turn back anytime soon.

Throw me a frickin bone here ok.

Who can guess what movie that line is from?

  • 04.07.2008 9:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: SpartanGeneral7
Bungie is a console company. Bungie is not a PC company. Bungie was a MacIntosh company. Now, it is not. Get it over with, please.

Thats quite a good point,but marathon was the last pc/mac exclusive game.bungie made halo 1 and 2 for the pc are just ports but i have to say there much better than the xbox versions.

  • 04.08.2008 8:38 AM PDT

posted by: ART1LL3RY
I'm there but, man this is really starting to sound like communism.
Long live the MAW.

Tim Sweeny, you have now been dubbed the title of "Senior -blam!-."
Lets see if Tim Sweeny says the same thing when Starcraft 2 comes out...

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  • 04.08.2008 5:01 PM PDT

Forum Rules for those who care to know what they are.

"Bs: Blame stosh for all of your BS!"

Bungie cares because they are glad there are still people playing HaloPC.

  • 04.08.2008 5:30 PM PDT
Subject: And just when we thought Bungie betrayed us...
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Posted by: Recoton007
Posted by: SpartanGeneral7
Bungie is a console company. Bungie is not a PC company. Bungie was a MacIntosh company. Now, it is not. Get it over with, please.


Interesting comment, but what you should consider is that while companies do tend to focus on single platforms, being the consoles or the pcs, they tend to also care about their name and reputation. For example, Epic Studios ported Gears of War with their first hand involvement. Assassin's Creed is ported, and Mass Effect is coming next month. These were all "console games." I'm sure Bungie has time to take a handful of pros and churn out a good port in three months, as everyone else is doing...

At the end of the day, the question is why does your company develop games? Do they love to make games, and the money allows them to keep dreaming up the greatest games ever?...OR...Do they love money, and the making of games is just a business where they manufacture any random c*** as long as it makes a profit?

Bungie always has a choice. It is never too late to turn back, or to toss us a bone. But they don't seem to want to turn back anytime soon.
Yes, well, Bungie is not that company you write about.

And I agree with Spartennum on the movie quote.

  • 04.08.2008 9:24 PM PDT
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Oh yes and i suppose Bungie, in all it's greatness has seen fit that Halo 3 should degenerate into the game which everyone raves on and on about JUST because they got a coincidental kill, and if anyone, ANYONE on that god-forsaken inbred love child of Console and PC has done proper research, the Xbox is a mere conglomerate of older generation PC parts which couldn't hold a candle to any seriously made computer, Halo 3 is a game in my opinion, good, but ultimately made to suck every last dollar possible from a blind fan base, oblivious to the inferiority to a decent computer.

[Edited on 04.09.2008 1:53 AM PDT]

  • 04.09.2008 1:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: cHr0n0sPh3r3
ANYONE on that god-forsaken inbred love child of Console and PC has done proper research, the Xbox is a mere conglomerate of older generation PC parts which couldn't hold a candle to any seriously made computer, Halo 3 is a game in my opinion, good, but ultimately made to suck every last dollar possible from a blind fan base, oblivious to the inferiority to a decent computer.


Nice observation. I think its interesting to point out that the whole "Games for Windows" scheme is an example how Microsoft, excuse me "M$", is attempting to reform the PC gaming experience, in order to cash in on gamers that are used to playing videogames online for free, but with the rise of Games for Windows Live, realize that M$ is going to do everything in their power to tap into this market. The PC is the best gaming console because of the freedom. By Microsoft placing limitations and additional costs everywhere, they are only hurting the industry and subsequently themselves.

BTW: the xbox 360 LOOKS like a computer tower, but runs like a broken heep of junk. DON'T release consoles that are statistically proven to break. My friend's 360 broke a few weeks ago, so the rrod hits close to home for me.

  • 04.11.2008 7:02 PM PDT

Unfortunately, Microsoft is most likely the root cause of all our issues with PC gaming. Microsoft released Vista, the WORST OS to ever try to game on, plus they are selling completly broken Xbox 360s and cheap generic games to little kids and teens to rip them off, and all Microsoft's Xbox games seem to be tainted in capitalism.

Vista + PC game == disaster, nothing much to say there...

I can't stand all the kids at my high school who, whenever asked about video games, can only talk about Halo 3 because it's the ONLY game they even play! What a waste! Halo 3 was not a good game at all! Microsoft purposely targeted 10-16 year olds for the Xbox 360 just so the kids would be dumb enough to buy into the cheap scams there, like $50 a year just to get online, $10 map packs every few months (meaning the kids would have bought the ENTIRE game again in DLC), cheap products, generic games (like Gears of War, just a mediocre game dressed up with the uber Unreal Engine). And what a waste of $$$, I can garentee the Xbox 3 will come out by next year (Windows 7 is already rumored to come out in 2009), the Xbox 360 immediately obsoleted, and all kids forced to upgrade to a buggy and horrible system with 10 different versions to choose from.

And then theres Halo 3... fail. Since they targeted 10 year olds, and the 10 year olds came, they destroyed the Halo community. Those kids just throw tempertantrum after tempertautrum... Then theres DLC. Even more of a scam! $10 for 3 stupid maps? WTF?

So now they want to destroy PC gaming JUST SO Microsoft can force PC gamers to move to the 360 (since thats where most FPSs are). I guess m$ got pissed because they failed miserably to bring that scam Live thing to Windows (Vista), and they expect us to pay for their scam!

Plus, PC makers don't exactly help the situation. Most regular PCs have Intel graphics cards in them (which CAN NOT RUN ANYTHING), so you literally can't play games! Dell used to offer customization, but now they're taking that out (and I checked their "prebuilt" computers, 2 out of the 3, and even the so-called "performance computers" can not run ANY GAMES).

  • 04.11.2008 7:47 PM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Okay, Doug, usually I don't do this, but your post just pissed me off with its stupidity.

Posted by: Doug52392
Microsoft released Vista, the WORST OS to ever try to game on...

Vista + PC game == disaster, nothing much to say there...

RIDICULOUS. If a game is developed or patched for the OS, it's more optimized for gaming that any other OS ever released. Learn how the OS works before you bash it.


Posted by: Doug52392
Halo 3 was not a good game at all! ...

...generic games (like Gears of War, just a mediocre game dressed up with the uber Unreal Engine).

I'm sorry if you can't recognize good games when you see them, but just because you suck at them is no reason to bash them. BTW, that "mediocre game dressed up with the uber Unreal Engine" was created by the greatest UT mapper of all time; Cliffy B. Show some respect, scrub.

Posted by: Doug52392
And then theres Halo 3... fail. Since they targeted 10 year olds, and the 10 year olds came, they destroyed the Halo community. Those kids just throw tempertantrum after tempertautrum... Then theres DLC. Even more of a scam! $10 for 3 stupid maps? WTF?

Once again, you obviously don't see a good game when it's slammed in your face. There are countermeasures to those whiny 10-year-olds; A handy mute feature and a player review system to ensure you don't play with those whiny 10-year-olds again. Not only that, but the DLC is priced as such because those aren't some 3rd party crap like you'd find with UT, CS, or similar games; The DLC maps are created by Bungie themselves, and nobody knows their game better than they do, so it's gonna be quality work that's worth forking over some cash for, if you want it early. They always go free eventually.

Posted by: Doug52392
Plus, PC makers don't exactly help the situation. Most regular PCs have Intel graphics cards in them (which CAN NOT RUN ANYTHING), so you literally can't play games! Dell used to offer customization, but now they're taking that out (and I checked their "prebuilt" computers, 2 out of the 3, and even the so-called "performance computers" can not run ANY GAMES).

So you're blaming Microsoft for the fact that you can't find a PC powerful enough to run cutting-edge PC games, but the reality is that YOU'RE to blame for your obvious lack of the technical knowledge required to build or buy a gaming PC. You might look like less of a dumbass if you don't get pissed off at Microsoft and Bungie just because you suck at everything +1.

  • 04.11.2008 8:11 PM PDT

* Sigh *

Once again, you missed all my points.

1. I get horrible framerates and very poor performance on Vista when running new games, and everyone I talked to seems to agree Vista causes it.

2. Halo 3 was not a good game, from looking at the Halo 3 Forums, a lot of people seem to agree

3. I do know good games when I see them, Halo 3 just wasn't one for me. And from what I've heard, kids cause issues like betraying and goofing off instead of playing.

And Bungie is sure doing a good job constantly mentioning the map pack, in the daily updates, in forums, even REDESIGNING THE SITE! Do you think the kids could resist?

4. Probably where you missed my point the most: I bought a $500 computer, bought better parts off the Internet, and now I have a great gaming PC. But would the average consumer know how to install a graphics card, or, for that matter, what a graphics card IS, or what kinds there are, or what to buy? You can't just start playing PC games by having a computer anymore. PC makers have gotten to the point where they make their PCs just for "personal use" (Internet, e-mail, media, etc). NOT GAMING!

So sure, I got my own gaming PC, but the average consumer would run into serious difficulties getting one. Most consumers are probably unaware about how the "great" Intel integrated graphics cards work, and how unstable they are. Case in point: I saw a computer at a local Circuit City running Flight Simulator X. This computer had a "Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3000" (horrible) graphics card listed as the card. SO I asked the guy the specific specifications of the display computer, know what he said? NVIDIA 8800GT! They put in the 8800GT to fool customers into thinking games like that wil actually run on such a cheap system (that's ironic to, this computer was over $1,000, yet it still has an Intel card)

[Edited on 04.11.2008 8:44 PM PDT]

  • 04.11.2008 8:41 PM PDT