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Subject: And just when we thought Bungie betrayed us...
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Posted by: n357
Way to get your hopes up :(

Yeah LIVE sucks end of story

  • 05.07.2008 2:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: ProgramLog
Heh, Battlefield 2's updates are about 400MB in size, but it's a game thats actually worth taking the time to download and install their uber-sized updates.


Disagree there partner. If the patches were a Gb and actually did anything then I'd be willing to download them. Too bad even after double digit numbers of patches BF2 was still EA's poster child for absolutely terrible bug fixing.

  • 05.08.2008 5:27 PM PDT
Subject: Do you think that Bungie cares about it's PC Fanbase?

Just message me on live.

No, they don't.

  • 05.10.2008 8:22 AM PDT
Subject: Piracy is down, where is Halo 3?!?
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Global software piracy rates are finally dropping, after hitting an all-time high. Perhaps it's time to see some developing going on regarding Halo 3 PC, and put an end to all of the people saying that the PC is a platform cesspool.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080515-bsa-says-piracy -down-but-questions-remain-about-its-data.html

  • 05.15.2008 7:16 PM PDT
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Pfft piracy is only because so many companies are turds with their prices and are too wuss to allow online distribution. EA DL Link is useless btw

  • 05.16.2008 7:27 PM PDT
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As long as people put a price on something there will be others who wish to have it for free. I believe that part of the reason software piracy is declining stems from the fact that software companies are making it more difficult to actually run a pirated program. Of course it goes without saying that as long as gaming companies use better and better forms of copy protection there will always be someone who can crack it. But the process can be so complex that it can be beyond the scope of your average PC user that he or she most likely won't even bother trying anymore. The problem with copy protection though is that it can inconvenience a legitimate owner of the game. Case in point Star Wars EAW, I couldn't run the game because of the copy protection not liking my system for some reason. I had to wait for the patch to even be able to install the damn game.

  • 05.17.2008 8:57 AM PDT
Subject: Do you think that Bungie cares about it's PC Fanbase?

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Hardly any gaming company seems to care about the PC fanbase. All the money is in the console market. The only companies that seem to actually care for the PC fanbase are the ones who make big RTS games that are just better suited for PCs then consoles are. Those and flight simulators of course.

It's sad though, I bought Halo for the PC because the Xbox version didn't have LIVE support, and I had a blast playing it. 10 times better than Xbox LIVE games.

  • 05.17.2008 9:40 PM PDT

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The reason I got Halo 2 pc is because as many people have said, xbox live blows. Way too much lag for that many people, but that is just Halo 3. I still play GTA IV on xbox live because they can actually manage more people in larger areas with less lag! It's amazing.

Main reasons for playing Halo 2 pc: Ducking. Until Halo 3 brings it back, by which I mean remove auto-centered melee, I have quit it and am sticking to Halo 2 pc when it comes to the Halo series.

  • 05.18.2008 5:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: EliteSpartan86
Hardly any gaming company seems to care about the PC fanbase. All the money is in the console market. The only companies that seem to actually care for the PC fanbase are the ones who make big RTS games that are just better suited for PCs then consoles are. Those and flight simulators of course.

Not true.
RTS games are suited to PCs, but FPS and the like are no less viable, if not more than Consoles, its only because the console is the quick and simple way to play quality games. That and idiots go with the idiot box.

  • 05.18.2008 11:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: EliteSpartan86
Hardly any gaming company seems to care about the PC fanbase. All the money is in the console market. The only companies that seem to actually care for the PC fanbase are the ones who make big RTS games that are just better suited for PCs then consoles are. Those and flight simulators of course.

Not true.
RTS games are suited to PCs, but FPS and the like are no less viable, if not more than Consoles, its only because the console is the quick and simple way to play quality games. That and idiots go with the idiot box.


Lol. Oh I know that FPS games and many others are probably better suited for the PCs than for consoles. What I was trying to say (but it just came out wrong lol) was that, to the extent of my knowledge, RTS games and flight simulators are pretty much the only kinds of games left that are doing pretty well on PCs. And like you said, the console is the quicker and simpler way to play quality games. They're cheaper, and their core purpose is to play video games, whereas PCs are primarily tools. However, PCs are just so much better-suited for RTS and flight simulators that they just don't do nearly as well on consoles, so a lot of people still play those kinds of games on PCs. From what I understand, the number of people playing the kinds of games that dominate the console market on the PC are just dwindling.

I actually prefer playing FPS on the PC because they don't require any form of auto-aim whatsoever (although I don't think consoles should have any either) because it is much easier to aim with a mouse than with a contoller. That and upgrading certain PCs can enhance the experience. But I'm -blam!- out of luck since I don't have my OWN PC to play games on lol, which is why I'm kinda forced to play consoles, like many other people.

And yes, PC players seem to generally be MUCH more intelligent than the people on Xbox LIVE....lol

  • 05.19.2008 12:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: EliteSpartan86
Lol. Oh I know that FPS games and many others are probably better suited for the PCs than for consoles. What I was trying to say (but it just came out wrong lol) was that, to the extent of my knowledge, RTS games and flight simulators are pretty much the only kinds of games left that are doing pretty well on PCs. And like you said, the console is the quicker and simpler way to play quality games. They're cheaper, and their core purpose is to play video games, whereas PCs are primarily tools. However, PCs are just so much better-suited for RTS and flight simulators that they just don't do nearly as well on consoles, so a lot of people still play those kinds of games on PCs. From what I understand, the number of people playing the kinds of games that dominate the console market on the PC are just dwindling.


The only advantage I see in the console is that it is extremely user-friendly for the technologically "disadvantaged." I would have said that the console does not suffer from the same buggy problems as the computer, but that is disproven by the rrod of the xbox360 and the yellow button of death by the ps3(I think it's the yellow button, but I might be mistaken). The only difference hardware wise is that there are often compatibility issues with drivers and videocards, where as on the consoles, all games work guaranteed.

Taking price into account, the computer in the shortrun is more expensive than the consoles, because when you are buying an xbox360, you are buying a $700 piece of equipment for $400 depending on the model. If you are a VERY good bargain hunter, you can find a computer for about $500, that can match the Xbox360.

Where the PC gets its edge over the consoles is in game sales. Where the base price for PS3 and Xbox360 games is $60 bucks, the PC's are based at $50, and on the first week, you can get it for $40. Depending on where and when you look, you can save as much as $20 bucks on PC games on the first week. The console has this to some extent, but not as frequently.

Also, when getting a computer, the prices for parts decline rapidly. The longer you are willing to wait, the better hardware you can get for cheaper the cost. If you are a serious gamer, than the PC is the better bet. With extras such as usb controllers, wheels, and headsets, in addition to the standard mouse and keyboard, the computer is the ultimate gaming machine if you are willing to research everything to find the best bargains. Whenever I get anything for my computer, I always get it for at least 40% off, or I'm not interested.

In a way, the perception of the PC "not being practical for gaming" creates a filter, to remove a lot of the arrogant people not willing to research, learn, then bargain hunt, forcing them to the consoles, and leaves the more intellectual ones at peace. (While this is not always flawless, you have to admit that it helps clean up the community)

  • 05.19.2008 3:43 PM PDT
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Sorry dude, but this "community" is about as clean as a crack den...

  • 05.19.2008 4:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
Sorry dude, but this "community" is about as clean as a crack den...


But Obi, surely just by our arrogant attitude and flaming ability (along with typing speed) we are superior to our console brethren!

Although you guys have to admit how cool it is how gamers combine into a super destructive force of death every time mr. J.T. /Fox News attacks our hobby. Our ignorant brothers provide a good first line of attack.

  • 05.19.2008 4:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: Ryanman7

But Obi, surely just by our arrogant attitude and flaming ability (along with typing speed) we are superior to our console brethren!

Of course we're superior. We're PC gamers!

Posted by: Ryanman7
Although you guys have to admit how cool it is how gamers combine into a super destructive force of death every time mr. J.T. /Fox News attacks our hobby. Our ignorant brothers provide a good first line of attack.


Like Voltron!

  • 05.19.2008 9:01 PM PDT
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meh fact still stands, Bungie is now what we call a capitalist company, just like M$. Of course i think a bit like a commie, but thats only because communism actually MAKES SENSE. It just greedy jerks makes that screw over most countries, AHEM *Bush on Iraq? AHEM
Also Ryan you call Xbox players our brothers?
I tend to think of them more like our idiot brothers who put another idiot box on top of their idiot boxes, then connect that idiot box to IDIOTLIVE.

  • 05.19.2008 11:00 PM PDT
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Unfortunately communism in all it's forms (marxism, leninism, trotskyism, maoism, etc) is only viable on paper. Communism depends on everybody working together for the good of the state. But as we all know, greed is a powerful incentive and there will always be people willing to subvert the ideals of communism to their own ends.

Hey, quit makin fun of my idiot box!

  • 05.20.2008 6:35 AM PDT
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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
Unfortunately communism in all it's forms (marxism, leninism, trotskyism, maoism, etc) is only viable on paper. Communism depends on everybody working together for the good of the state. But as we all know, greed is a powerful incentive and there will always be people willing to subvert the ideals of communism to their own ends.

Hey, quit makin fun of my idiot box!


I always wondered why the most populated countries in the world gave into communism. I always assumed that it would work in a smaller country. You could easily get a village to give into the idea (read: hippies) so why not a tightly knit country with a history of un-corrupt government and leftist ideas like Switzerland? Instead you have Russia and east Asia both of which are the exact opposites of what communism seems to be made for.

I tend to think of them more like our idiot brothers who put another idiot box on top of their idiot boxes, then connect that idiot box to IDIOTLIVE. Pretty funny line right there bro.
And they aren't so much our brothers. I always considered brethren to imply that YES we do have the same sort of lineage, but some very dramatic differences. We're shackled to our bloodline in most cases but when trouble arises the whole family gets in on the gang bang. I meant it in THAT context ; )

  • 05.20.2008 11:32 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ryanman7
I always wondered why the most populated countries in the world gave into communism. I always assumed that it would work in a smaller country. You could easily get a village to give into the idea (read: hippies) so why not a tightly knit country with a history of un-corrupt government and leftist ideas like Switzerland? Instead you have Russia and east Asia both of which are the exact opposites of what communism seems to be made for.


Communism isn't working for Cuba now is it? Communism only makes sense until you try to apply it to reality. I agree that there are a lot of good points about it, but it just isn't practical. I believe it was tried in a much smaller setting in a town in Britain some years ago, but even in that small a community it didn't work.

  • 05.20.2008 11:38 AM PDT
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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
Posted by: Ryanman7
I always wondered why the most populated countries in the world gave into communism. I always assumed that it would work in a smaller country. You could easily get a village to give into the idea (read: hippies) so why not a tightly knit country with a history of un-corrupt government and leftist ideas like Switzerland? Instead you have Russia and east Asia both of which are the exact opposites of what communism seems to be made for.


Communism isn't working for Cuba now is it? Communism only makes sense until you try to apply it to reality. I agree that there are a lot of good points about it, but it just isn't practical. I believe it was tried in a much smaller setting in a town in Britain some years ago, but even in that small a community it didn't work.


Rutting capitalists...
Can't keep their greedy mitts on their own property... so sad
As a rule, i say America needs to listen to people with brains. No offense, but still, who the hell put Bush in charge in the first place?
Also stop the crap with not letting Cuban cigars into the country jackass, your just putting another product for the black market to sell, idiots. Rutting racists....Rutting rednecks, Rutting idiots who play in traffic (jk)

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  • 05.21.2008 2:11 AM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

Wow...

Does Bungie have a PC development team at all?

  • 06.25.2008 11:08 AM PDT
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Why would they need one?

If they didn't care why would they release the HEK?, unless someone else released it?

they have done their part, now they are giving us the tools to run with it using our imiginations.


although from an economic standpoint, probably not. Why would they spend money working on a game that is outdated, and a very small target group now?


they are looking forwards, not back. Although they still undoubtedly get idead from the past.

  • 06.25.2008 11:45 AM PDT
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For Halo PC, I don't think Bungie ever really cared, because Gearbox handled the entire thing. A while ago they stopped caring too, so Halo PC is as is and not going to improved.

As for if Bungie cares for the PC community, they haven't shown it very well if they do. But they might now, with the recent split from Microsoft.

  • 06.25.2008 11:51 AM PDT
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I wouldn't say that's recent anymore.

  • 06.25.2008 12:15 PM PDT
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Well Enough Alone...

~"The people who play Bungie games tend to sense that there's something behind the games that's attractive to them. Then they become fans of the games. And then they become rabid fans. And then they become employees of Bungie."(Life story) -Marty

I'm sure they care about the Halo 1 and 2 pc modding community, because they are Bungie and microsoft future employees.

  • 06.25.2008 4:04 PM PDT
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Hasn't this thread died yet?

  • 06.25.2008 11:09 PM PDT