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Subject: Do you think that Bungie cares about it's PC Fanbase?
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I believe that this thread should be the first thing people see when they look in th maw. It will show how little Bungie cres about PC/MAC gamers. Honestly....The votes are horrendous. I feall that this should be fixed. BTW I just realized that although bungie has split away from M$ , they still own the halo series.....is that -blam!- ing retarded or what?

-blam!- microsuck

[Edited on 12.21.2007 7:44 PM PST]

  • 12.21.2007 7:44 PM PDT

Please Bungie, redeem yourself w/ Reach.
Halo 2 and 3 both stink out loud.
In the immortal words of Mr Horse: Halo 2? No sir, didn't like it.

Posted by: antomicblitz
I believe that this thread should be the first thing people see when they look in th maw. It will show how little Bungie cres about PC/MAC gamers. Honestly....The votes are horrendous. I feall that this should be fixed. BTW I just realized that although bungie has split away from M$ , they still own the halo series.....is that -blam!- ing retarded or what?

-blam!- microsuck


Yes, people should know just how little goes into the Halo PC games they pay top dollar for. It's a total joke.

Bungie would have to go WAAAY out of their way to bring me back as a PC customer. My guess is that Halo 3 will be more of the same.

~telengard

  • 12.23.2007 8:40 PM PDT
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Or not at all

  • 12.24.2007 12:28 AM PDT
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So whose problem is it that we aren't getting Halo til years after it comes out for the consoles? Bungie? Micro-hard? I'd really like to know, because although I would love to buy Halo 2 Vista, I won't because I don't want them to think that I condone a hand-me-down game that the console has passed some time ago. I mean, c'mon, whoever is doing this, either way, I've lost respect for Bungie AND Microsoft.

  • 12.25.2007 9:16 PM PDT
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It's the day after Christmas, and Christmas is the time to forgive the retarded nature of others. So I forgive Master Kim, Desert Fox RWTF, Beowul7 for acting like "unconstructive" dumbasses about two weeks ago.

I think the problem with Bungie is not that they were just bought over by Microsoft, but that they felt that the true place to explore and expand is on the consoles. Like all small companies, they looked into the future of consoles, and in their doing so, completely ignored the PC and Mac. We recieved no holiday cheers or anything. However, Valve gave us this magnificent video http://www.aperturescience.com/. The last time I recieved anything from Bungie was about two months ago, and it read as follows:

"You have been sent a warning from BobBQ. This warning's text is below:
A Bungie.net Forum Moderator has warned you for violating the code of conduct and/or rules of the forum in the thread below. Further violations will likely result in a ban."

When Halo 2 Vista was released, Bungie made no mention of it on their forum. Yet when someone made a parody of the first Halo game "High Larity" they had a full segment, reading "Watch This Now" http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=news&cid=130 95. They give more mention to these satirical videos then their PC games. Tells you that it's not MICROSOFT(-Scam,-hard,-w/e)!!! It's BUNGIE!!! Would they get sued if they mentioned H2V on the front page of the website or even in the community tab? Or is it a fanbase they want to kick under the carpet?

  • 12.26.2007 7:20 AM PDT
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And I forgive you for being a stuck up little whiner. You share just as much blame for the "unconstructive dumbass" fiasco as they do.

So you think Bungie was wrong to get a leg up in the console market? A market that has served them well while other, more successful PC game companies fell by the wayside? The problem isn't Bungie, you're looking at the wrong angle smart guy. The problem is the consumer, who want a system that's easy to use, fun, and cost effective. The console delivers that while PC's do not. How many 12 year olds do you know that can install, tweak, and run a modern video game? Inversely, how many 12 year olds know how to pop a disc into a CD drive and grab a controller? Capitalism at work dude.

Why do you keep bringing Valve into this discussion? As a comparison to Bungie? Sorry to point out the obvious, but Valve isn't Bungie. Valve makes most of their money in the PC market, while Bungie makes most of it's money in the console market. You see what I'm getting at here?

Bungie has absolutely NO obligation to support, or even acknowledge H2V, why? Because it's not their product. They had very little to do with H2V, while Halo PC was a different story. Bungie had quite a hand in Halo PC, maybe it was good, maybe it wasn't, that's not the issue. So what if Frankie posted a link to a funny video? You're reading too much into this.

To summarize: Bungie = Xbox company. Halo 2 Vista =/= Bungie property. Bungie =/= Valve. You = served.

  • 12.26.2007 10:21 AM PDT
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Recoton, stop your pissing and moaning and crying and leave this forum.

  • 12.26.2007 10:22 AM PDT
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Haha, beat ya to it! :P

  • 12.26.2007 10:23 AM PDT
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Psh. :P

  • 12.26.2007 10:24 AM PDT
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Valve was once exclusively on the computer, just like Bungie, and has now been introduced to the consoles through the Orange Box. They are as much a console gaming competitor as Bungie, and they are able to help both their console and pc fanbases. Bungie is either unable or unwilling to do this. No doubt the problem is partially greed and capitalism, but when Bungie puts their name on H2V, you would expect that they are somehow involved in its production. The first thing you see when you start up H2V is the Bungie logo video. Where is the video for Hired Gun?(I know they are grouped in with MGS, but im saying that Bungie is recieving more credit for something that they hardly dealt with at all. Bungie has no financial obligation to their PC fanbase, but don't they have a moral one?

  • 12.26.2007 10:31 AM PDT
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Posted by: Agamemnon582bc
Recoton, stop your pissing and moaning and crying and leave this forum.

BTW, you guys are partially the reason why this forum sucks, and why Bungie couldn't care less about PC gamers.

  • 12.26.2007 10:33 AM PDT
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Wow, are you ever naive. Of course bungie doesn't have a moral obligation. Jesus H. Christ what world do you live in? Yes, I am aware of the orange box, The original HL2 was also released for the Xbox. Hence my statement that Valve makes MOST of it's money in the PC market.

And I would expect that you would have a little more common sense than this. But man, did you ever prove me wrong this time. Bungie made Halo 2, they didn't port it. Different product, different group, no obligation whatsoever. They only get credit for being the original content creators. The only cash they make off H2V is royalties as far as I know. This whole pile of -blam!- you call a thread is nothing more than speculation and conspiracy theories, that's gone on way longer than it should have.

Welcome to reality dude, sucks don't it?

[Edited on 12.26.2007 10:44 AM PST]

  • 12.26.2007 10:42 AM PDT
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Aren't you an ignorant douche? I KNOW Valve makes its money from Steam and the PC. I also know that the Orange Box is a huge hit and that they cash in from console gamers as well. They are making money from BOTH console gamers and PC gamers. BOTH...BOTH. Try to grasp that concept for a second.

Now try to comprehend my second point. Why can't Bungie do the same thing? You don't answer questions, you're just an ignorant a**hole. So shut your trap, and stay on topic. I know the facts, I know the myths, and I know that you are full of s***. Pretend you were an arrogant 12 year old (assuming that you aren't right now). If you bought H2V, you would think it was produced by MGS and developed by Bungie. Now tell me, where the hell is Hired Gun in all this? This isn't theory, this is an observation supporting that Bungie couldn't care less about what happens to their name on the PC.

  • 12.26.2007 10:58 AM PDT
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Wow, I just got totally owned there guys. There's just no defense against comments like "ignorant douche" and "ignorant a**hole". My debating skills just aren't up to snuff here. Reco has me beat, I would never have thought to look at the game like an "arrogant 12 year old" and believe that Bungie has something do do with H2V, even after Bungie stated otherwise.

Nothing left to do now but log off in shame and go install the new rearset I bought...

  • 12.26.2007 11:57 AM PDT
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Posted by: Recoton007
Posted by: Agamemnon582bc
Recoton, stop your pissing and moaning and crying and leave this forum.

BTW, you guys are partially the reason why this forum sucks, and why Bungie couldn't care less about PC gamers.

And you are partially the reason why this forum has gone to pot.

You waltzed in here with your ignorance, called anyone out that didn't agree with your opinion, and proved yourself to be a bigot. You're a troll, and you equally have the intelligence of one as well.

I said leave.

  • 12.26.2007 12:05 PM PDT
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I've realized that you have never written one constructive posting on this thread. If you don't intend to, why don't you just leave? You have no reason to be posting on this thread, so why don't you act like a belligerent idiot somewhere else? Is it for attention?

Back on topic (kinda), I believe that I appreciate Halo2Vista more than Bungie. To show my appreciation, I present you all with this compilation taken from 10 minutes of online gameplay. Enjoy.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/145021.html

I would have embedded the video, but I don't think this forum supports it.

  • 12.26.2007 2:43 PM PDT
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I've known for a long time that every one of your posts you have written here is you complaining and being a hypocrite, like the one above me. You revived this topic from the dead to cry and then insult others.

Honestly, do you even think before you bang the keys on the keyboard?

[Edited on 12.26.2007 3:28 PM PST]

  • 12.26.2007 3:28 PM PDT
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Actually I think you are mistaken. I did not revive this topic back from the dead. If you recall Wakeboy1337 revived this topic on November 29th, and I didnt come back to the forums from my break until the 3rd of December. You are wrong, and this is not the first time.

"So don't come here with your anger, trying to prove something to yourself. This is a world you'll never understand. And you always fear what you don't understand." - Carmine Falcone, Batman Begins (I love that movie, hope the dark knight lives up to expectations.)

Now please Agamemnon, either leave or lets have peace, and stay on topic. :)

[Edited on 12.26.2007 3:39 PM PST]

  • 12.26.2007 3:38 PM PDT
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And the flame fest starts all over again, why do people here feel so freaking bitter about every thing?
You know what? im probably going to get flamed for this, but the only probable reason Bungie doesn't care, is because of the bitterness emitting from this forum, bitterness coming from people who are un-witting fan boys of their own belief that they are right, and the new guy is always wrong.

Why cant anyone just get along? Yeah i know thats naive but alot of people here not naming names are acting more naive than a little school girl, albeit sounding like one too. So please take a breath and think your posts over, now im going to fine me a fire-resistant suit to weather the flames that will soon be pointed at me

  • 12.26.2007 4:55 PM PDT

I keep getting banned since the mods are unfunny and suck at their jobs!

Posted by: Recoton007
Aren't you an ignorant douche? I KNOW Valve makes its money from Steam and the PC. I also know that the Orange Box is a huge hit and that they cash in from console gamers as well. They are making money from BOTH console gamers and PC gamers. BOTH...BOTH. Try to grasp that concept for a second.

Now try to comprehend my second point. Why can't Bungie do the same thing? You don't answer questions, you're just an ignorant a**hole. So shut your trap, and stay on topic. I know the facts, I know the myths, and I know that you are full of s***. Pretend you were an arrogant 12 year old (assuming that you aren't right now). If you bought H2V, you would think it was produced by MGS and developed by Bungie. Now tell me, where the hell is Hired Gun in all this? This isn't theory, this is an observation supporting that Bungie couldn't care less about what happens to their name on the PC.


You're a moron, please leave Valve out of this, they are a great company. Same as Bungie, but saying that one is better than the other is obviously going to get you flamed, moron.

Bungie helped with Halo for the PC, they may of not helped for Halo 2 Vista, but Halo for the PC is better than the original version, so Bungie must had something to do with it.

The reason why you don't like to post on these forums, is because every time a insult comes out of your red-necked mouth, someone comebacks with a witty remark.

  • 12.26.2007 6:06 PM PDT
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Am I the only one who finds this to be funny?

You have the guy to the left saying "All you're doing is banging on your keyboard, look at me...blah, blah, blah."
You have the guy to the right saying "You're a moron, and I'm using witty remarks, look at me...blah, blah, blah."
Then you have the guy in the center saying "I'm putting on my flame coat, peace and love everyone, peace and love..."

Right after a posting that says lets all be peaceful, there is a crazy nut that comes out of the woodwork. It's like a scene from a zombie movie where one guy makes a sound, and all the freaks start moaning and crawling out (I would have a clip, but I'm too lazy to search.)

You people don't listen to the smart ones. THAT's the problem. I'm not saying me, I'm saying this:

"You know what? im probably going to get flamed for this, but the only probable reason Bungie doesn't care, is because of the bitterness emitting from this forum, bitterness coming from people who are un-witting fan boys of their own belief that they are right, and the new guy is always wrong. Why cant anyone just get along? Yeah i know thats naive but alot of people here not naming names are acting more naive than a little school girl, albeit sounding like one too. So please take a breath and think your posts over..."

Bottomline is that you DON'T have to post here!!!

If you don't like this thread, post somewhere else. This thread is for peace-loving people ONLY. Make love not war...yadayadayada. As much as this thread sounds like its against Microsoft, Bungie, and what have you, there is supposed to be order and harmony. Let's all get along and not turn into a bunch of flaming ghostriders(just saw the movie yesterday on Starz, and I'm glad I didn't watch it in the theaters, lol.)

Peace and Love to everyone :)

  • 12.26.2007 6:29 PM PDT
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Stop being such a damn drama queen hypocrite. You revived this with personal attacks, and now you're saying this is about peace?

Congratulations, you're the biggest joke since our last real troll on these boards.

Honestly. How old are you by the way? Quoting Batman and all? 14, 15 tops?

  • 12.26.2007 7:42 PM PDT
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Hm....and the Mods don't give a flying -blam!- when flaming starts on these forums, hence why they suck even more. I could blame it on the sea of retards that took this forum and turned it over to the era of stupidity and the joke that's H2V since it's one of the reasons, but it's no use. We all see what's obvious and what's not....hopefully.

Ayways, to stay on topic, ask yourself some questions. How has Bungie and Microsoft been on the last games?

Halo PC, MS/Bungie hired Gearbox to do their netcode. From what I've read, Gearbox did a pretty well job, but our good friend Microdick decided to -blam!- it all up by getting involved, like they always do. Supposedly, MS/Bungie told Gearbox to add in 56k support, so Gearbox worked on it. What MS/Bungie didn't do was give them a good amount of time to do it. It's not just going to the .txt file and changing codes, it takes considerable amount of time to make a change like that. MS/Bungie was cutting the time because they lack brains and testicles and wanted their money for the game right then, so what we got was a half-finished port, with missing details (Compare the Teleporters, the floor on the upstairs of the Sidewinder bases etc. from the PC and Xbox version) and a -blam!- ass netcode where I can and double melee a person in the face and melee them again only to watch them walk away and kill me by their grenade that was sitting 10 miles away from me.

Halo 2 Vista, what can I say? The MOST random ass game I've EVER seen. There are people out there that run H2V smoothly with what I consider outdated GPU's, like TPE and his 6200. Yet, my friend who has a 7900GT and a E4500 who really can't run it too well? Really, other games that have come out for PC don't give much problems performance wise, if I'm wrong then go ahead and prove it. But really, H2V isn't much of a port, it's basically what they did with Halo 1 PC, just this time they were kind enough to have a decent netcode.

That's two times where Bungie has -blam!- up over really dumb -blam!-. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't lay my hopes on a person who keeps doing a half assed job. Hell, Halo 3 isn't that big of a release in my opinion, what better is it going to be for PC? Just going ot be people throwing money away to try and run that stupid game. not to mention they'll probably do the same thing and release it for a -blam!-, half-finished OS.

[Edited on 12.27.2007 1:17 AM PST]

  • 12.27.2007 1:16 AM PDT
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I agree bungie hasn't given up on the halo PC and halo CE fanbase. Though i am wondering why isn't there any leagues for halo PC o halo CE because the clan wars website is down STILL! and i have not found a league to play with yet because I'm trying to get my new up coming clan recognized and known on halo

  • 12.27.2007 5:06 AM PDT
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Agamemnon582bc,

You're a 12 year old dip-blam!-. Post somewhere else, get off this thread. Now back on topic...

WsLp137,

There is no doubt in my mind that Microsoft is using Halo in order to sell there other wares such as the 360 and the Vista. But don't go so far as saying that the Vista OS is half-finished without having SOME support. I happen to think that the Vista OS is under-rated, because everyone hates Microsoft because they screwed up on every OS from Windows98 to WindowsXP (before the Service Packs). Give Vista a break man, its fine. Compatibility wise its still pretty damn good. And the looks are hot!!! :)

What I see wrong with H2V is not that its buggy, but that it requires a computer that can run UT3, but you end up getting xbox180 graphics. I wondered how the guys at Hired Gun messed this up, and guess what, I FOUND WHY!!! If you look at the texturing from far away, it looks like crap. But as you get closer, it looks better and better, and you even see an intricate weave design on the characters like SGT. Johnson's green armor. That's why this game is messed up. It looks better as you get closer. IT SHOULD BE THE OPPOSITE!!! This is just an observation, if you disagree, go ahead by all means.

There is nothing wrong with Halo...Now I say that on very loose ground. If you remove the fact that the game released was exactly the same as the one from 3 years prior, AND you remove the fact that the lowest ping you can get on the servers is something like 67 so that you are guaranteed to lag even on a 10mbps connection (my connection...joy :)), AND you finally remove the fact that the HEK was largely disappointing...well then at the end of the day, you will find that Halo PC is the same game that came out on the xbox. EXACTLY the same. So technically its an awesome game, that just came out 3 years later than it should have.(4 years for Mac) This is what I'm expecting for Halo 3. The same game. The only difference is that Halo 3 is going to be up against Elder Scrolls 5 and GTA New Orleanos and Halo Wars: Rogue Squadron. It will still be the same game though, and that's good enough for me, even in 2010.

  • 12.27.2007 7:29 AM PDT