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Subject: Do you think that Bungie cares about it's PC Fanbase?
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Sorry, what was that? All I could hear was the crying of a child.

Cry some more, your tears feed the other trolls.

  • 12.27.2007 9:16 AM PDT

Hello! Star Wars FTW. Also, join the MAW group. Please?

Posted by: Recoton007
I wondered how the guys at Hired Gun messed this up, and guess what, I FOUND WHY!!! If you look at the texturing from far away, it looks like crap. But as you get closer, it looks better and better, and you even see an intricate weave design on the characters like SGT. Johnson's green armor. That's why this game is messed up. It looks better as you get closer. IT SHOULD BE THE OPPOSITE!!! This is just an observation, if you disagree, go ahead by all means.


Having it work that way actually makes it easier to run for systems. It's called swapping out textures. If they had on hi-res textures all the time, even if you were to far away to notice the difference, you'd need a -blam!-load of ram and video card memory to be able to show all that at once. However as is textures change to higher resolution only when you're close engough for it to be worth it.

  • 12.27.2007 9:25 AM PDT
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I understand what you mean. Yes the textures become progressively sharper the closer you get to them, however. This is only true for a certain distance. What I mean is that yes the resolution of textures is low when you are far away. This is to simulate texture gradient and also to save memory. The human eye will not notice this. However, there comes a point when no matter how close you get to the texture, it no longer becomes sharp. In essence, it sharpens textures like this:

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One you are as close as you can get, the texture appears blurry or muddy.

However, in H2V while this occurs it occurs more like this.

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It is not as efficient as the standard technique, and though it looks really good upclose, it does not look at all good from mid-range or from far away. So it looks bad, and takes up a lot of memory. The 512x512 pixeled textures are being wasted which is why the game does not look very improved.

  • 12.27.2007 9:48 AM PDT

Long live the Last Refuge!

hosnlty i don't, for Halo 2 vista we didn't get half of the crap that the xbox verison did and we came out later then them. And Halo 1 had online and didn't get anything for the site. I think Bungie should make a patch for the PC verison so we all have to have different names and so that our matchs can be tracked over bungie. net, Same for halo 2 vista.

  • 12.27.2007 12:59 PM PDT
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I would have to disagree with your statement on H2V. We actually recieved not only the original Halo2 Xbox Port, but also the Map Pack in addition to two free new maps. Technically we recieved more, but I don't feel we recieved enough to make up for our waiting for 3 years. It would be cool if GFWL is integrated into HaloPC, through a small patch, but I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon. If it does end up happening, it will be through Microsoft, so it would probably be done in a half-assed way. I'm not expecting anything from Bungie anytime soon, however I have noticed that the moderators come along once in a while threatening to ban us for some of the content in our postings.

  • 12.27.2007 1:13 PM PDT

Long live the Last Refuge!

yes i know I love the maps on vista I just want my bloody stats tracked so it would be like consle verson.

  • 12.27.2007 1:15 PM PDT
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I was watching the Shawshank Redemption earlier today, and I just got a great idea. Why don't we start bombarding the webmaster with emails. What I mean is that if we consistantly plead for a link to this forum on the community tab of the website, maybe we will recieve some sort of aid or response. I've already sent my first letter, so I hope if we work together, we might be able to make a difference. One person's actions are meaningless, but the unity of those people can be powerful and dangerous.

  • 12.28.2007 6:47 PM PDT

Just message me on live.

No they don't H2 Vista crashed and Halo PC is GearBox.

  • 12.28.2007 7:15 PM PDT

Long live the Last Refuge!

Posted by: Recoton007
I was watching the Shawshank Redemption earlier today, and I just got a great idea. Why don't we start bombarding the webmaster with emails. What I mean is that if we consistantly plead for a link to this forum on the community tab of the website, maybe we will recieve some sort of aid or response. I've already sent my first letter, so I hope if we work together, we might be able to make a difference. One person's actions are meaningless, but the unity of those people can be powerful and dangerous.


rally the spartans the upriseing of late 07-early 08 has begun. Fight for your right to kill people that play halo 2 on the consle.

  • 12.28.2007 7:21 PM PDT
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Now for something completely irrelevant..

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=kdmo_KCsutI

  • 12.28.2007 7:35 PM PDT

Long live the Last Refuge!

I say this becuase i care WTF

  • 12.28.2007 8:27 PM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Posted by: Recoton007
I was watching the Shawshank Redemption earlier today, and I just got a great idea. Why don't we start bombarding the webmaster with emails. What I mean is that if we consistantly plead for a link to this forum on the community tab of the website, maybe we will recieve some sort of aid or response. I've already sent my first letter, so I hope if we work together, we might be able to make a difference. One person's actions are meaningless, but the unity of those people can be powerful and dangerous.

Email sent!

  • 12.28.2007 10:54 PM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

One more post before sleepy time...

Don't talk about spamming the webmaster or any of that crap. It would just give them an excuse to lock this thread. Having this thread on page 1 indefinitely is exactly what we want.

  • 12.29.2007 12:13 AM PDT

Long live the Last Refuge!

All spam must be call off, but we must make ourselfs heared. We need to make something like the Declaration of independence, we must have alot of people sign it and threat to boycott both of the Halo's for PC. Then tell everyone who plays the games to stop so we can get more features. Also we need to tell everyone we know not to buy it either.

  • 12.29.2007 1:25 AM PDT
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Heh if this thread is right neither Bungie OR M$ will give jack about it, but still, ima gunna uninstall H2V right now cause its just a waste of space...

[Edited on 12.29.2007 3:56 AM PST]

  • 12.29.2007 3:56 AM PDT
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All my opinion.

Not really, or some bugs should've been fixed.. A lot of bugs.

  • 12.29.2007 7:43 AM PDT

Long live the Last Refuge!

unstalled H2V so I could install quake wars and Halo PC

  • 12.29.2007 3:14 PM PDT

I keep getting banned since the mods are unfunny and suck at their jobs!

Posted by: halo3leader
unstalled H2V so I could install quake wars and Halo PC


Well at least you still have some Halo on there....

  • 12.29.2007 6:40 PM PDT

Gaming Systems:
Intel Core i7 720QM (4 cores, 8 threads)
4Gb DDR3-1333mhz
1Gb AMD Radeon HD 4650
Windows 7 64bit

Xbox 360 w/ 20Gb HDD (2008 edition) & XBL Gold.

I agree with Recoton's previous post, far too many people flame Vista based on superstition and rumour, rather than first hand use. It certainly is in a lot better state than Windows XP was on release, at least i can use it on a day to day basis without fear of constant crashing. Yes Windows XP is on SP2 now and very stable, but it took a few years to get there. Once Vista is on SP1, i think it'll be just as stable as XP is on SP2. Vista has a lot of things people confuse with "Resource hogging", such as it's memory management. Despite of the seemingly increased use of people's system's RAM, it's actually just loading up the most used programs for quicker launch should they be selected. Programs i use frequently such as IE7, Windows Media Player and Word, all run extremely fast and start up all of them in less than a second. That's on a 3 year old mid-range laptop as well, just after a RAM upgrade.

H2V is not that buggy if you run it with decent drivers. I am yet to have a crash on H2V, which is certainly an improvement on Halo PC with Gearbox's job there. Yes, it is a little bit more demanding than perhaps necessary, due to this texturing issue you guys are talking about. However, with my modest PC Gaming rig: Intel Celeron 2.8Ghz CPU, 1Gb DDR RAM, AGP 8X Geforce 7600GT, i get stable and decent framerates at maxed settings, so i don't really have anything to complain about. The optimisation job is reasonable and certainly a lot better than some recent half-assed jobs such as Need For Speed: Prostreet by EA, which barely runs at 10fps on the same system, at lowest settings...

But anyway, i do think Bungie "cares" in the sense of the word, but i think their focus is not on PCGaming. It never has been with the Halo series. Had MS not bought Bungie, we'd all have to go buy Mac computers to play the games and the series would have inevitably flopped. MS saved a stunning series from that harsh treatment, think of it that way, PC gamers got the games in the end as well, rather than not at all.

  • 12.30.2007 4:03 AM PDT

Long live the Last Refuge!

I honoslty love vista and can't wait to free up my hard drive some so i can get back to H2V, but I'll still play Halo PC more. I am below the mimmum require ments for Halo 2 vista, and it runs no problem, but the single player is super laggy along with lockout and warlock.

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  • 12.30.2007 4:24 AM PDT

Gaming Systems:
Intel Core i7 720QM (4 cores, 8 threads)
4Gb DDR3-1333mhz
1Gb AMD Radeon HD 4650
Windows 7 64bit

Xbox 360 w/ 20Gb HDD (2008 edition) & XBL Gold.

Which is fair enough i'm sure you'll agree, if you're below what they stated is required, which in all fairness isn't all that high. Compared to other modern shooters, it's certainly lower, which is due and expected. I'm glad i've found someone also sensible enough to appriciate Vista :D Which version do you have?

  • 12.30.2007 4:50 AM PDT

Long live the Last Refuge!

i got good old home permium

2.0Ghz prossers

958 MB RAM

32-bit operating system

60GB hard drive

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  • 12.30.2007 4:57 AM PDT
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Strangely enough, I cannot run Halo 2 Vista on max graphics 1280x1024. There is significant lag which dips to 14 fps.

Instead, I run the game on 1024x768 max graphics, and the fps is about 25. Max AA makes it look really sharp.

My specs are:

Dual Core 2.13 ghz processors

2048 MB RAM

Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit

280 GB Hard Drive

ATI Radeon x1650 pro 512MB


Nothing spectacular, but it gets the job done for every game but Crysis. Damn you Crysis.

  • 12.31.2007 6:59 AM PDT

Long live the Last Refuge!

See i don't have a gaming PC im stuck with the one my mom bought, so i need around 4k to buy all of the top of the line equipment to run crysis on max setings.

  • 12.31.2007 8:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: halo3leader
See i don't have a gaming PC im stuck with the one my mom bought, so i need around 4k to buy all of the top of the line equipment to run crysis on max setings.

Not entirely true. If you know what you're doing, you can build a comp that can run Crysis on full at 1280x1024 very smoothly for around $1,500.

  • 12.31.2007 11:40 PM PDT