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Posted by: gnome13
All of the mods are painfully stuffed with love, happiness, and snacks the moment they join. That is probably not true, but it sure conjures a great mental image.

If it is true, then the idiots sure must beat it outta them quickly...

It's like watching a new college graduate find out that now, they really aren't very important, after all...

I like to videotape the actual moment the soul-crushing horror dawns on them.

  • 10.10.2007 9:21 PM PDT

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I like to videotape the actual moment the soul-crushing horror dawns on them.


Pix or it didn't happen.

  • 10.10.2007 9:42 PM PDT

I don't blame them one bit for typing what they do. I would have all sorts of comments like that if I had to deal with people that just choose to ignore the rules, or think they can do whatever they want. When you signed up for this site you agreed to the ToU that state "You have no rights, play nice." Everyone is allowed to voice what they think, but you still have to follow the rules when you do it. If people would use the search button, or just read the stickies, there wouldn't be so many locked, or moved threads. Same goes for the blacklisted people, if you post the same thing over and over, or something that you know doesn't belong here, you have to be ready for the consequences that come along with it. If you don't like the way the site is being moderated, or run, you can always go somewhere else.

  • 10.10.2007 11:07 PM PDT
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Location: Outlaws' Summit.

Not to turn this into a thread about Recon, but he is without a doubt one of Bungie.net's most prominent and respectful figures.

He's kind, he moderates with sense, and is very fair (and I'm not trying to suck up, as I believe not all the moderators do it as well he does.)

Anyway, this isn't disrespect. It's a public board, we should all be mature here. We aren't going to be babied and treated like children, so if you fear your feelings are going to get "hurt," it's best to not post your opinions and such. Otherwise it's all fair game.

Recon's a great moderator; the staff (as a whole) equally as great.

  • 10.11.2007 3:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: Nothing Works
And as for the comments from recent posters that I have not "earned" respect, I didn't do anything prior to what you all haven't read in the other post to not earn respect.


And you don't get respect for doing nothing.

You don't start with 100% respect and lose it, you start with 0% and have to earn it.

Sorry no freebie here.

Well maybe if you had advanced to the next sentence before getting too excited knowing you were going to pwn me with your next post, you would realize I said this:

As a matter of fact, rather than complaining about Bungie's great game, I have created thread complimenting the game trying to gain support, and threads getting custom gamers together rather than complaining there is no custom game match.

I think I've earned a little respect. I haven't once complained about the game like others have because I see it as an unbelievable masterpiece, much better than Halo 1 and Halo 2. I'm not looking for him to wipe and powder my bottom and change my diaper, but even a simple "no" would have been fine. I got a nice "no" when I asked it in the right forum. Who cares though, quit quoting me to prove me wrong. Read the rest of my last post... I couldn't care less now. I realize this is a forum where people aren't given the benefit of the doubt, and disrespect is given before respect. I've adjusted.

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Posted by: Nothing Works
I could care less now. I realize this is a forum where people aren't given the benefit of the doubt, and disrespect is given before respect. I've adjusted.


The phrase you were looking for is "I couldn't care less" (sorry, not trying to "own your post" or anything like that, but that particular mistake really gets on my nerves).

Anyway, you're right. If new users here were given the benefit of the doubt, this would be a horrible place. A vast majority of users here come in ready to break the rules, either by sheer ignorance of the rules or on purpose. Therefore, at least at the level on which I believe most experienced members see, new users come here with 0% trust and 0% respect.

  • 10.11.2007 5:54 AM PDT
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"Mommy, Bungie's being mean to me!!" *cries*

This is what happens when children are allowed to play with adults.

  • 10.11.2007 6:07 AM PDT
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This is what happens when children are allowed to play with adults.

I bet you'd like to know what university I got my master's degree from... or what movie I just co-wrote...

No, really though, way to jump into the conversation on page 3.

  • 10.11.2007 6:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: Nothing Works

Well maybe if you had advanced to the next sentence before getting too excited knowing you were going to pwn me with your next post, you would realize I said this:

As a matter of fact, rather than complaining about Bungie's great game, I have created thread complimenting the game trying to gain support, and threads getting custom gamers together rather than complaining there is no custom game match.

I think I've earned a little respect. I haven't once complained about the game like others have because I see it as an unbelievable masterpiece, much better than Halo 1 and Halo 2. I'm not looking for him to wipe and powder my bottom and change my diaper, but even a simple "no" would have been fine. I got a nice "no" when I asked it in the right forum. Who cares though, quit quoting me to prove me wrong. Read the rest of my last post... I couldn't care less now. I realize this is a forum where people aren't given the benefit of the doubt, and disrespect is given before respect. I've adjusted.

I think it's ironic that you you think Bungie is being disrespectful, yet you are doing the same thing here.

I feel as though you've earned no respect. You've been a member of this website for about 2 weeks now. What have you done to show any of us that you deserve any respect? You don't complain? You talk about Custom games rather than talk about how there isn't a search for it? Please. I've been a part of this community for over 3 years now, and I feel as though I've barely gained any respect. Hardly anyone knows me here, yet I've been active for those 3 years here. Do I think I deserve respect? No. What have I done to prove that I should receive respect? Nothing. Sure, i've been a loyal fan, but that doesn't mean I should receive special treatment or whatever simply because I have been.

Just because you think you deserve respect, doesn't mean you should receive it.

  • 10.11.2007 6:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: Nothing Works
This is what happens when children are allowed to play with adults.

I bet you'd like to know what university I got my master's degree from... or what movie I just co-wrote...

No, really though, way to jump into the conversation on page 3.


Big movie or indy-film? :-P

I just think complaining about a moderator being a bit of a smartass is a little petty.

  • 10.11.2007 6:20 AM PDT
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Posted by: Nothing Works

Well maybe if you had advanced to the next sentence before getting too excited knowing you were going to pwn me with your next post, you would realize I said this:

As a matter of fact, rather than complaining about Bungie's great game, I have created thread complimenting the game trying to gain support, and threads getting custom gamers together rather than complaining there is no custom game match.

I think I've earned a little respect. I haven't once complained about the game like others have because I see it as an unbelievable masterpiece, much better than Halo 1 and Halo 2. I'm not looking for him to wipe and powder my bottom and change my diaper, but even a simple "no" would have been fine. I got a nice "no" when I asked it in the right forum. Who cares though, quit quoting me to prove me wrong. Read the rest of my last post... I couldn't care less now. I realize this is a forum where people aren't given the benefit of the doubt, and disrespect is given before respect. I've adjusted.

I think it's ironic that you you think Bungie is being disrespectful, yet you are doing the same thing here.

I feel as though you've earned no respect. You've been a member of this website for about 2 weeks now. What have you done to show any of us that you deserve any respect? You don't complain? You talk about Custom games rather than talk about how there isn't a search for it? Please. I've been a part of this community for over 3 years now, and I feel as though I've barely gained any respect. Hardly anyone knows me here, yet I've been active for those 3 years here. Do I think I deserve respect? No. What have I done to prove that I should receive respect? Nothing. Sure, i've been a loyal fan, but that doesn't mean I should receive special treatment or whatever simply because I have been.

Just because you think you deserve respect, doesn't mean you should receive it.


Congratulations... you are the 1000th person who has tried to make me look like an idiot and fail. If you ask me, you do deserve respect. I'm a believer that everyone does until they prove otherwise. I give people respect when I answer their questions, so I expect the same. And by the way, you quoted my entire post and tell me I think I deserve respect, but you clearly didn't read the last line of my post, where I said "I couldn't care less now" and "I've adjusted". Keep quoting me and coming back with nonsense. As for me being disrespectful to people now... that's what this forum is all about, isn't it? Atleast I only do it to people who are trying to call me out on my opinions.

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Posted by: Nothing Works
Congratulations... you are the 1000th person who has tried to make me look like an idiot and fail.

you don't need help with that.

  • 10.11.2007 6:29 AM PDT
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Have you seen the thread about the service record not updating? Its not like there's a great deal of intelligence among the majority of users on this forum...

  • 10.11.2007 6:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: Nothing Works
Congratulations... you are the 1000th person who has tried to make me look like an idiot and fail. If you ask me, you do deserve respect. I'm a believer that everyone does until they prove otherwise. I give people respect when I answer their questions, so I expect the same. And by the way, you quoted my entire post and tell me I think I deserve respect, but you clearly didn't read the last line of my post, where I said "I couldn't care less now" and "I've adjusted". Keep quoting me and coming back with nonsense. As for me being disrespectful to people now... that's what this forum is all about, isn't it? Atleast I only do it to people who are trying to call me out on my opinions.

I wasn't trying to make you look like an idiot. If you think I did, I apologize. My intention was merely to show you that, if you truely want respect, don't be disrespectful to others who disagree with you. That was my point.

  • 10.11.2007 6:38 AM PDT
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Posted by: spartakus14
Posted by: Nothing Works
Congratulations... you are the 1000th person who has tried to make me look like an idiot and fail.

you don't need help with that.


Help with what? Did I say I was trying to do anything? Did I say I needed help with anything? I think you're trying to say I'm an idiot. Good one. Learn to read, or come up with an insult that makes sense.


And by the way... I've been a member of Bungie for 3 years, but I recently changed my gamertag. Aren't we all just Halo fans? Why all the resentment towards eachother?

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  • 10.11.2007 6:42 AM PDT

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Posted by: Nothing Works
Posted by: spartakus14
Posted by: Nothing Works
Congratulations... you are the 1000th person who has tried to make me look like an idiot and fail.

you don't need help with that.


Help with what? Did I say I was trying to do anything? Did I say I needed help with anything? I think you're trying to say I'm an idiot. Good one. Learn to read, or come up with an insult that makes sense.


And by the way... I've been a member of Bungie for 3 years, but I recently changed my gamertag. Aren't we all just Halo fans? Why all the resentment towards eachother?

It makes sense if you think about it. also not an insult, more of a joke.

And if you've been a member of bungie for 3 years then you should know how things work here.
1. Moderators are not bungie, they are not employed by bungie at all. They are members who get asked to volunteer there time here.
2. Bungie controls everything, you have no rights. Play nice.

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Posted by: MrVegeta2323
Big movie or indy-film? :-P


And by the way, I've written two indies and co-wrote 1 full length feature film. " :-P "

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I don't have any resent towards anyone. Well, maybe towards the half-wits in the service record thread...but they don't count.

If Recon were calling people dick-faced, -blam!- eating mother-blam!-s...maybe you'd have a point. But sarcasm doesn't equate to disrespect. At least not when you're talking about the kind of people who play video games as much as we all do. Sarcasm is life blood to most of us.

  • 10.11.2007 6:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: Nothing Works

I think I've earned a little respect.


The last four posts from you has certainly made me disrespect you. You talk as if you're trying to get in a fight, almost like the annoying kid who's always teasing the big brutes in the playground, and knows they'll eventually beat him up. Then run to someone else and get them punished for it. You're picking fights, complaining about other people (and at the same time, admitting you do the same now that you "changed") without actually bringing anything constructive into this. It's like watching a flame war, with proper grammar.

My constructive helpful tip of the day: Learn to respect others, or you won't be respected yourself. Fake-respect doesn't count, and is easy to spot.

  • 10.11.2007 7:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: Nothing Works
If you ask me, you do deserve respect. I'm a believer that everyone does until they prove otherwise. I give people respect when I answer their questions, so I expect the same.

This, I think, is part of your problem. When dealing with a 3-million user internet forum (assuming about 600,000 or so being currently active), with around 70% of those users being morons, trolls, flamers, screamers, or otherwise rule breakers, your philosophy does not work. Giving polite, respectful explanations for every locked thread and moving every misplaced thread is simply not feasible given the incredibly high volume of new threads created here. Say what you want about the ways to fix that problem elsewhere, but that's not what this current thread is about. The way things are right now, "giving respect" to every single member "until they prove otherwise" is not only impractical, but pretty much impossible.

Perhaps, despite your claimed three-year tenure on this site, you are unfamiliar with moderating tools. To do anything except lock a thread is tedious and takes time -- time in which ten new bad threads will have been created. The simple fact is that the moderators here are ridiculously fair and never outright insulting. For you to take offense at anything said by Recon implies a level of sensitivity that probably means you shouldn't be here. I also don't want to turn this into a thread about Recon, but I want you to know that the other day, he MSN'd me just to tell me that he had disagreed with me in a thread in the Halo 3 Forum, and to give me a chance to respond to his arguments. For you to now say that he is generally disrespectful is kind of shocking to me. He, like pretty much everyone else who spends a lot of time on these forums, is playful, sarcastic, and sometimes curt out of necessity. But I have never seen any disrespect by him towards anybody who didn't already lose any respect they might have had.

I know that you want a better answer than "suck it up" or "deal with it," but unfortunately, that IS the answer. Bungie culture, and thus its community's culture, has always been more along the lines of the playful, sarcastic, friendly jabbing insults that you now complain of. For goodness' sakes, Bungie's corporate motto is "Non facete nobis calcitrare vestrum perinæum" which is Latin for "Don't make us kick your ass." Think of it as being treated the same as you would be if you were hanging out with a bunch of guys drinking beers in a bar somewhere -- not at a wine-and-cheese tasting with a bunch of stuck-up yuppies.

I know that you've said previously that you don't really care anymore, but I have to wonder why you keep responding in this thread. Are you trolling to keep it alive, or do you still care? If you do, then let me give you a piece of friendly advice: if you expect a Nordstrom-like culture where employees (and, as you call them, "affiliates") bow and scrape to petulant customers, then perhaps the Bungie.net website is not the place for you.

  • 10.11.2007 7:06 AM PDT

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We're barely, we're just a collection of cells
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I've been a part of this community for over 3 years now, and I feel as though I've barely gained any respect. Hardly anyone knows me here, yet I've been active for those 3 years here. Do I think I deserve respect? No. What have I done to prove that I should receive respect? Nothing. Sure, i've been a loyal fan, but that doesn't mean I should receive special treatment or whatever simply because I have been.

Just because you think you deserve respect, doesn't mean you should receive it.

Who in the hell are you and what kind of name is dwardo? Sounds like Greedo's long lost brother.

In case you were wondering, Han shot first!

=)

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Posted by: MrVegeta2323
If Recon were calling people dick-faced, -blam!- eating mother-blam!-s...maybe you'd have a point.

Wait. Is that an option?

*rubs hands together gleefully*

Not very subtle though. Is it?

Damnit people, what have I told you about giving him ideas??

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1. I've already said I respect Recon and the rest of the moderators. I said without them, this site would be a mess.
2. I'm not picking fights, I'm responding to sarcastic comments with other sarcastic comments. Saying I'm picking fights is like saying everyone else is picking fights. I'm doing nothing that everyone else in here isn't doing.
3. I think this entire thread has moved away from the original point of the thread, and has turned into a bashing thread, more than anything else. The original issue was resolved, and I admitted my inexperience and "n00bness", if you will. People coming in here reading only my first posts, skipping three pages of responses, and then saying I don't know how the forum works, clearly don't know the forum concepts behind reading through forums before they post crap. Because on page 2, the issue was resolved.
4. As long as general members can poke back at moderators without fear of being banned, the forum rules are equal. Too many of you suck up to big brother. "lolz". "teehee". "You're the funniest thing since Whoopie Goldberg". All the stuff I've seen. The teet is about dry. Fine, I made the last one up, but still. I laughed when I just read Recon's post because I understand the forum now. But here comes someone else to say I dont...

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4. As long as general members can poke back at moderators without fear of being banned, the forum rules are equal.

Does pokin' Recon's mom count?

  • 10.11.2007 7:27 AM PDT

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