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Subject: coz of dual wielding,can Master Chief now hold JACKAL SHIELDS????
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By the way, it's not that I don't like the idea, those are just the reasons that I don't think that Bungie would put that in. I wouldn't mind using a shield, considering a lot of people will most likey be using dual smg's.

  • 06.06.2004 6:20 AM PDT
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I don't like the idea at all. You pick up the shield, you sacrifice the use of grenades, melee, all of the two handed weapons, you gain an impenitrible shield against all but the raw plasma projectile weapons, because as far as we know everything else bounces right off it, and because MuliPlayer characters don't react or have the same stun animations as AI in campaigne mode you can't be thrown off balance by melee attacks, or buckshot from the shotgun. Sounds particularly broken to me.

It's kinda like god mode, all you have to do is look at your enemy and 90% of the time he can't hurt you. If you had a plasma sword to back it, no one would come near you to try to duke it out. infact the only way you're gonna lose a fight is if someone hits you with two fully charged plasma shots and that's not an easy task unless you're close range. And a rocket splash damage won't even make a mark on your health bar with 200% shields in halo:CE. so if you have the bare ammount of reaction it takes to jump or side step a rocket you'd be pretty over powered defensively.

Heyy i got an idea... Why not just make a power up that tripples the strength of your shield and degrades over time... They could put that in the game! that would rock!.

[Edited on 6/6/2004 6:28:23 AM]

  • 06.06.2004 6:25 AM PDT
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and since i'm bring overshields into the mix, then what happens when you have a guy with an overshield + energy sheild + weapon. We're talking about the proverbial walking tank right there.

  • 06.06.2004 6:29 AM PDT
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I think that they should have the sheild, like when you press R you duck down in a position where its easy to defend yourself(like hold R). but with the sheild you can still melee with it and chuck grenades, and possibly dual weild with a needler or smg(or what else) is your other hand. it would be sweet against snipers, or anybody whos using human weapons from a ways away(it happens alot). covenant weapons would destroy it after awhile but its still a limited defense, well whatever that woud be cool.

  • 06.06.2004 6:55 AM PDT
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Posted by: Abrams_Tank
i dont think so about the sheild of the jackals part but i think it would be sweet if u could use som1's dead body or even a living person as a sheild from enemy fire
Ur iguines!!! thats a freikin awsome idea!!! I NEVER thought about that... that an asome idea, i hope bungie see's this...

  • 06.06.2004 7:07 AM PDT
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They should put in covenant's portable shields.

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And have you seen the size of the jackal shield!!! LOL thats like MC hiding behind a pebble Lol. And they cant make it bigger because it whould take to much energy to make it bigger, thats why elites dont have them but the hunter has a good shield to use its just not a practical idea for multiplayer bungie still wants the origanal fast past action not hiding behind a sheild the size of your face! I think Abrams Tank was right on with hiding behind bodies and taking living people just think you sneek up behind someone grab him by pushing X holding him with ur left hand and using ur right to fire your other weapon.

  • 06.06.2004 7:15 AM PDT
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swainy everyone knows it was first made for the pc... then they saw that xbox came out so they made halo for it then finsihed halo for PC...

  • 06.06.2004 7:17 AM PDT
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U can hold the jakal shield i saw it in an interview with Peter Parsons on xbox.com here is the link: http://www.xbox.com/en-us/xboxtv/default.htm?t=3856&v=847 43&bw=hi

  • 06.06.2004 7:18 AM PDT
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Since the Fall of Reach, the Covies could of put fail safes into the shields. Also does anyone remember 2003 E3? The Battle Rifle takes down the shield in 2 hits, or they arn't being hit on the shield, I can't tell all the videos I've seen of it are all bad resolution.

Also I listened to the interview...you misheard...he says duel wielding SMG with plasma pistol to take out the Jackal shield with pistol then finnish the Jackal off with the SMG.

[Edited on 6/6/2004 7:41:29 AM]

  • 06.06.2004 7:20 AM PDT
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Any way it would be cool as people say it would be useless against plasma weapons that is what makes it a balanced weapon. Don't use the E3 video to judge weapon power they increased the power so the guy wouldn't get his ass handed to him.

  • 06.06.2004 8:15 AM PDT
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link dont work

  • 06.06.2004 8:28 AM PDT
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Ok, we WILL NOT be able to pick up Jackal sheilds for a couple of simple reasons. Firstly we already have one, and one which was modified and made to encircle your body instead of the buggy Jackal one. Dr Halsey when the Spartans "acquired" some Jackal shields added sheilding to the MJOLNIR armour from it, a Spartans shields is a Jackals shield, just better. Secondly its not hand held, its generated from a mid arm mounted band thingy along with a hand device....these have been placed throughout a Spartans armour. And on the major point, you can't power the thing even if you could pick one up off the Jackal. The one you have is modified to work off a suits power, not some wierd wonky Covinent powersource.
So in brief, WE WILL NOT be picking up Jackal shields.

  • 06.06.2004 9:28 AM PDT
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Posted by: JAY132
What are you on about??? You could either have 2 guns, or a gun and a shield, which is great if your getting plasma grenades chucked at you, cause they bounce off!!!! It makes sense and would be cool!!!!


jay i think you cant stand it when people say something you dont want to hear!
but just like the other fellow said it will be most unlikely to have a jackal's shield as secondary weapon!

  • 06.06.2004 9:31 AM PDT
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ok im just going to jump right in cause i did not read most of this.

the jackle shield probably has a fail safe, but, it probably also can be reactivated, i mean jackles dont just live there lives with a shield around there arm. now jackles shields as secoundary weapons make perfect sence (or somthing in the same catigory as a jackle shield) the jackles shield has two small slits on either side of it, and is clear, allowing you to shoot at an apponent wile still being protected. getting this to work would be easy, you equip the shield as a secoundary wapon and when you wish to bring it up infront of you, you press the left trigger. the shield would be benaficial expecialy when used in conjunction with a full over shield (no not the powerup).

  • 06.06.2004 9:38 AM PDT
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Posted by: nyadach
Ok, we WILL NOT be able to pick up Jackal sheilds for a couple of simple reasons. Firstly we already have one, and one which was modified and made to encircle your body instead of the buggy Jackal one. Dr Halsey when the Spartans "acquired" some Jackal shields added sheilding to the MJOLNIR armour from it, a Spartans shields is a Jackals shield, just better. Secondly its not hand held, its generated from a mid arm mounted band thingy along with a hand device....these have been placed throughout a Spartans armour. And on the major point, you can't power the thing even if you could pick one up off the Jackal. The one you have is modified to work off a suits power, not some wierd wonky Covinent powersource.
So in brief, WE WILL NOT be picking up Jackal shields.


your whole point can be shot down in these 7 words.

you get more defence with more shields.

  • 06.06.2004 9:40 AM PDT
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i agree, theres no point turning down extra defense in addition to your own energy sheilding

  • 06.06.2004 9:44 AM PDT
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Ive seen people bring up the point that plasma weapons could bring the shield down quikly making it useless. In Halo1 the plasma weapons such as the plasma rifle and pistol werent used as much as other guns (by me anyway). With a sheild the plasma weapons could come into play more. And i wouldnt mind if i could force the enemy to carry the plasma pistol as one of their guns to take down my jackal sheild because it takes away a gun from my enemy.
Plus I liked the idea that u could move the sheild vertically using the L trigger to get cover where u need it and u could also duck to make the sheild cover more of ur body. And in some battles one shot could mean the difference between losing the battle and winning it, this would make the sheild worth picking up.
Basically i think that the sheild would add alot of strategy to multiplayer battles and make the games more interesting.

[Edited on 6/6/2004 10:08:06 AM]

  • 06.06.2004 10:05 AM PDT
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Posted by: TheGreatGobi
Plus I liked the idea that u could move the sheild vertically using the L trigger to get cover where u need it and u could also duck to make the sheild cover more of ur body..


whos idea was that? if it was mine, i meant to bring in infront of your body with the L trigger, not over your head :P.

any way a plasma shield is actualy a good thing to have, you could line up a whole group of guys so there in a line of shields (like on the E3 03 vid) to allow for a wall of fire and defence for the guys behind you.

  • 06.06.2004 10:14 AM PDT
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IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER, IN THE E3 2003 DEMO, THE MC DESTROYS A JACKALS SHEILD WITH HIS BATTLE RIFLE, SO THEY DONT DEFLECT ANYTHING ANY MORE, THERE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA DEFENSE

  • 06.06.2004 10:17 AM PDT
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Posted by: crimtonic

any way a plasma shield is actualy a good thing to have, you could line up a whole group of guys so there in a line of shields (like on the E3 03 vid) to allow for a wall of fire and defence for the guys behind you.


That would be hilarious to see, I hope bungie at least trys it out and considers it

  • 06.06.2004 10:17 AM PDT
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Posted by: oompaloompa
IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER, IN THE E3 2003 DEMO, THE MC DESTROYS A JACKALS SHEILD WITH HIS BATTLE RIFLE, SO THEY DONT DEFLECT ANYTHING ANY MORE, THERE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA DEFENSE


That was a while ago though. I'm sure bungie doesnt have everything exactly the way it will be in the game the first time they try it, or show it in a demo.

[Edited on 6/6/2004 10:22:58 AM]

  • 06.06.2004 10:20 AM PDT
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XBL: FTG Spartan
But you were dead a thousand times. Hopeless encounters successfully won. A man long dead, grafted to machines your builders did not understand. You follow the path, fitting in to an infinite pattern.
Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.
Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.
I know who you are.
You are Destiny.

Oompa, have you ever hit a Jackal in Halo and killed him by hitting that one spot on his shield were his hand goes, on the outside edge? The 2 shots MC fired in the E3 Video were just lucky shots that hit there. Trust me, two shots from a battle rifle isn't gonna bring down a jackal's shield.

  • 06.06.2004 10:28 AM PDT
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it was three shots, and in zoom the bullets are stronger, and you can hit a jackal sheild any were and it will take it out.

[Edited on 6/6/2004 10:30:23 AM]

  • 06.06.2004 10:29 AM PDT

XBL: FTG Spartan
But you were dead a thousand times. Hopeless encounters successfully won. A man long dead, grafted to machines your builders did not understand. You follow the path, fitting in to an infinite pattern.
Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.
Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.
I know who you are.
You are Destiny.

srry, three shots. and in zoom the bullets aren't stronger you idiot. Just more accurate

  • 06.06.2004 10:30 AM PDT