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the fatal flaw is smart AI like cortana have a 5-16 year life span and around that time rampacy occers thenthey are internally terminated from a computer program to disallow rampancy.

  • 07.03.2008 9:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: phearmaker
Look at the legendary cut scene, Look where the light originates from, Then look at that picture.
You are looking at an early mars, From the game marathon, With the sun eclipsing Luna, Which creates the big flash of light.


I know someone will read your post and state for the thousandth time that Bungie has stated that Halo and Marathon are in no way related blah blah blah... BUT, how is this Mars? From what I know, Marathon was like, a couple hundred years later than Halo's timeline... Also, how could this planet be Mars when the Ark is so close by, and not to mention Earth being right down the road...I don't think humans ignored something like the Ark if it was so close by ya know? Also, if that flash is indeed a sun, it is blue, and much hotter than our sun...

I think though that I may have misunderstood what you were trying to get across so...I will wait for your response hehe :-)
hmmmmmm i agree with hydrilus when the arbiter made it through the portal, the chief and cortana were left behind, correct? so which leads me to say master chief and cortana were simply, left to drift in space seeing as they never made it through the portal...so!.....hydrilus is right about the ark and mars being so close together on the account that you clearly hear MC say on the level "the ark" when he is talking to guilty spark "thats.....our universe" so long story short the portal that the arbiter goes through happens just above the ark and the chief dosent make it through so he is left to drift aimlessly in the same universe as that the ark is in so when cortana puts him in cryosleep they just so happen to drift to some random planet..........thats it

  • 07.04.2008 4:43 AM PDT

After three fateful years, TheSodaFreaK has returned upon a mighty Warthog.
I shall strike fear into the hearts of my low ranked enemies, and remind them of the well-known fact: I am a Soda.

so there might be a chance MC will be pwning p'hfors?
^ how do you spell it?

  • 07.04.2008 4:48 AM PDT
Subject: Where in the world in Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.
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your argument makes complete sense

  • 07.04.2008 8:13 PM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

Step One: Turn on your 360
Step Two: Put 5-6 heavy blankets on the xbox while it is on
Step Three: Wait 4-5 hours
Step Four: Leave house for that time
Step Five: And when you come back (insert somthing here)!!

nice

  • 07.04.2008 8:20 PM PDT
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4 Things

The Arbiter was sent through the Portal on the Forward Unto Dawn's Fore section which means the ship was sent hurdling into Earth's atmosphere above Africa, where he crashed into the ocean. Master Chief was sent hurdling on a random vector in space, most likely to Onyx

Oynx DID NOT EXPLODE Only the top layer was blown off, the below part made of sentinels is still there, With Dr. Halsey, Chief Mendez and the SPARTAN II's and SPARTAN III's trapped in the core.

Cortana would have died after a few year. She has the life spam of 7 Years. Not 207 Years.

The Chief could not have simply let near the exploding Instillation 04, it would have killed him because he would have drifted into the ring's explosion range. Instillation 04 was about in the middle of the Portal and the Ark, If the Ark 'had a number done on it' then I'm sure that ring would have blasted a few meters of Titanium-A Battleplate? When 3 MAC Rounds and ALOT of Longsword Interceptor missiles did not even make a scratch on a Forerunner Dreadnought. The Forerunner would have made the Ark out of even better materials, meaning when that Ring blew, It Blew.

If anyone can De-bunk that, Please do so!

[Edited on 07.04.2008 8:39 PM PDT]

  • 07.04.2008 8:31 PM PDT
Subject: Where in the world in Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.
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Finally a nioce decent intelligent thread about this!
NO in my opinion the OP's theory does seem very plausible, it does have overwhlming evidence to support it and it is srgued pretty well!
BUT
Also in my opinion his evidence is ...flawed, Im not flaming him or anything ive already said that it seems pretty plausible.

To begin with lets start with the "construct" we see at the end of the legendary ending. Now there is mixed opinions on what this consturct is ( we can se that from this thread), but to be totally frank with you all i am totally drawn towards the theory of it being the Forrunners "Shield World" Onyx. There just seems to be an overwhelming amount of evidence to this. Taking "Ascendant justice" as the best source for information, we can see that the symbol that is outlined by the blinding flash of light that appears on the edge of the construct in the video is the forerunner glyph for "Shield World" Hmmm Pretty strong evidence? I think so! And as ascendant justice also points out we have seen this symbol replicated throughout every Halo game it is on the walls in all rings we have been on. Maybe it is there to tell thee forrunners to go to the shiled world? The symbol is also seen on the front of the book " Ghosts of Onyx".

http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/halo-3/shield-world/
Theres the back up evidence that the OP requested They explain it a lot better than me :)

Now, Th OP said that we can see a certain communication device, from marathon on the back of a multiplay armou permutation. In my opinon this was put there on purpose. The security helmet permutation with which the communication pack appears on your back, along with the security shoulders perm where created to be " The same" as the armour that the protagonist in marathon wears. Also the fact that it is a multiplayer feature would disprove the Op's theory as it is not part of the campaign.
Carrying on talking about the armour we know that John 117 is still wearing his mark VI armour when cortana puts him in the "freezer" (Cryo pod). And we know that the armour used by the protagonist of marathon is not the mark Vi: Whih means taking the Op's theory that the chief would need the marathon armour, but if he is floating toward marathon when or where is he going to get it from?

Marathon events happen 200 years after HALO correct? But Op seems to think that chief has merely moved universe but is still in the same time band? This would mean that he ither remains floating in the half of his ship for 200 years or goes and live on marathon for 200 years....-Spartans are tough..but 200 years? And an Ai's "life span" is only 7 years. Now i know cortana has survived a lot longr than that but again 200 years? :O

Im not flaming anyone i just wanted to put accross my point of view here.
In my opinion the evidence is just to strong for the Onyx theory that i do not believe that it could go any other way.
Thanks for listening to my very poorly argued arguement!

Oynx DID NOT EXPLODE Only the top layer was blown off, the below part made of sentinels is still there, With Dr. Halsey, Chief Mendez and the SPARTAN II's and SPARTAN III's trapped in the core.

Cortana would have died after a few year. She has the life spam of 7 Years. Not 207 Years.

The Chief could not have simply let near the exploding Instillation 04, it would have killed him because he would have drifted into the ring's explosion range. Instillation 04 was about in the middle of the Portal and the Ark, If the Ark 'had a number done on it' then I'm sure that ring would have blasted a few meters of Titanium-A Battleplate? When 3 MAC Rounds and ALOT of Longsword Interceptor missiles did not even make a scratch on a Forerunner Dreadnought. The Forerunner would have made the Ark out of even better materials, meaning when that Ring blew, It Blew.

If anyone can De-bunk that, Please do so!

I missed that part out of my argument! he is very right Onxy didnt "ASSPLODE"
Just cracked....

Oh and also if chief is floating near mars and we are presuming that he is still in the same timeline as arbiter blah blah blah then surely every human ship withn liek 10 million killometeers would have noticed half of a very important missing ship appear dad centre in the middle of human controlled space?

[Edited on 07.05.2008 6:22 AM PDT]

  • 07.05.2008 6:17 AM PDT

Posted by: FaJiTa TuEsDaY
only eat one small snack a week to save money on food and just have water toilet and lights to save money thats my plan

Though the Earth is dying we must enrich her body, for the ground we tread is hφly.

I'm a lion in a world where everybody's content with being cats.

Posted by: jimnix
Finally a nioce decent intelligent thread about this!
NO in my opinion the OP's theory does seem very plausible, it does have overwhlming evidence to support it and it is srgued pretty well!
BUT
Also in my opinion his evidence is ...flawed, Im not flaming him or anything ive already said that it seems pretty plausible.

To begin with lets start with the "construct" we see at the end of the legendary ending. Now there is mixed opinions on what this consturct is ( we can se that from this thread), but to be totally frank with you all i am totally drawn towards the theory of it being the Forrunners "Shield World" Onyx. There just seems to be an overwhelming amount of evidence to this. Taking "Ascendant justice" as the best source for information, we can see that the symbol that is outlined by the blinding flash of light that appears on the edge of the construct in the video is the forerunner glyph for "Shield World" Hmmm Pretty strong evidence? I think so! And as ascendant justice also points out we have seen this symbol replicated throughout every Halo game it is on the walls in all rings we have been on. Maybe it is there to tell thee forrunners to go to the shiled world? The symbol is also seen on the front of the book " Ghosts of Onyx".

http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/halo-3/shield-world/
Theres the back up evidence that the OP requested They explain it a lot better than me :)

Now, Th OP said that we can see a certain communication device, from marathon on the back of a multiplay armou permutation. In my opinon this was put there on purpose. The security helmet permutation with which the communication pack appears on your back, along with the security shoulders perm where created to be " The same" as the armour that the protagonist in marathon wears. Also the fact that it is a multiplayer feature would disprove the Op's theory as it is not part of the campaign.
Carrying on talking about the armour we know that John 117 is still wearing his mark VI armour when cortana puts him in the "freezer" (Cryo pod). And we know that the armour used by the protagonist of marathon is not the mark Vi: Whih means taking the Op's theory that the chief would need the marathon armour, but if he is floating toward marathon when or where is he going to get it from?

Marathon events happen 200 years after HALO correct? But Op seems to think that chief has merely moved universe but is still in the same time band? This would mean that he ither remains floating in the half of his ship for 200 years or goes and live on marathon for 200 years....-Spartans are tough..but 200 years? And an Ai's "life span" is only 7 years. Now i know cortana has survived a lot longr than that but again 200 years? :O

Im not flaming anyone i just wanted to put accross my point of view here.
In my opinion the evidence is just to strong for the Onyx theory that i do not believe that it could go any other way.
Thanks for listening to my very poorly argued arguement!

Oynx DID NOT EXPLODE Only the top layer was blown off, the below part made of sentinels is still there, With Dr. Halsey, Chief Mendez and the SPARTAN II's and SPARTAN III's trapped in the core.

Cortana would have died after a few year. She has the life spam of 7 Years. Not 207 Years.

The Chief could not have simply let near the exploding Instillation 04, it would have killed him because he would have drifted into the ring's explosion range. Instillation 04 was about in the middle of the Portal and the Ark, If the Ark 'had a number done on it' then I'm sure that ring would have blasted a few meters of Titanium-A Battleplate? When 3 MAC Rounds and ALOT of Longsword Interceptor missiles did not even make a scratch on a Forerunner Dreadnought. The Forerunner would have made the Ark out of even better materials, meaning when that Ring blew, It Blew.

If anyone can De-bunk that, Please do so!

I missed that part out of my argument! he is very right Onxy didnt "ASSPLODE"
Just cracked....

Oh and also if chief is floating near mars and we are presuming that he is still in the same timeline as arbiter blah blah blah then surely every human ship withn liek 10 million killometeers would have noticed half of a very important missing ship appear dad centre in the middle of human controlled space?
Nice writing, Spartan! I could see that wall from orbit!

  • 07.05.2008 9:53 AM PDT
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Nice writing, Spartan! I could see that wall from orbit!

Hhaha sorry got a bit carried away :L

  • 07.05.2008 10:06 AM PDT

Posted by: FaJiTa TuEsDaY
only eat one small snack a week to save money on food and just have water toilet and lights to save money thats my plan

Though the Earth is dying we must enrich her body, for the ground we tread is hφly.

I'm a lion in a world where everybody's content with being cats.

Posted by: jimnix
Nice writing, Spartan! I could see that wall from orbit!

Hhaha sorry got a bit carried away :L
No worries. I read it without much trouble.

But for real, I saw that wall engufling my entire screen from fifteen feet away.

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Yeah you do have a point there but then again they could be fooling us, you know like in Halo: CE most people thought that Halo was one big gun but it was meant to destroy the Flood's food source and to contain and study them. But either way nice work.

  • 07.05.2008 12:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: xXAmozonessXx
Posted by: jimnix
Nice writing, Spartan! I could see that wall from orbit!

Hhaha sorry got a bit carried away :L
No worries. I read it without much trouble.

But for real, I saw that wall engufling my entire screen from fifteen feet away.


Hhahah i just wanted to get my point accross!
T-o many threads all about this

  • 07.05.2008 3:57 PM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

I think the worst time to have a heart attack is during a game of charades...or a game of fake heart attackPosted by: octoarmtron
have fun i'll be outside ::walks outside:: "its dark out here"

::kryll eat me::

Posted by: cibinf
If you had 100% proof, it would be a Fact, not a theory.

The only real problem I have with your theory is that you seem to be proving that the Thermal image is mars, not that the planet in the final cutscene is mars. All your evidence rests on the thermal, not what we see in the cutscene.


Hes right. You seem to not prove that the planet in the final cutscene is Mars itself. Mars is already colonized by Humans in Halo. If you don't believe me check out one of the live action films. Its the first one that ever came out. It's also not proven that there is a nebula there it also could be whats left over from the big portal. It only makes sense for a massive amount of energy to be left over when a portal collapses.Also the little picture of the communication box floating around doesn't look anything like a com box to me. It looks like remnants of the ship that are floating around if you notice those are wires not antenna.

I also don't remember Onyx ASSPLODING, I read the crust was destroyed revealing all the little robot guys(forgot their names). I'm not sure about this so correct me if so. I was right.
The city had been buried under onyx stone during the 100,000 years of dormancy after the Forerunners fired the Array, only to begin to be excavated by human (and eventually Forerunner) machines just prior to the weapon network’s rearmament on Delta Halo. Interestingly noted, when Onyx’s surface began to come under attack, it started to splinter apart revealing that it was composed almost entirely of Forerunner AI constructs known as Sentinels. [Ghosts, pgs. 377-78] And much like the Halo installations, the key holders for the shield worlds would have to be the Forerunner’s surrogate heirs: the Reclaimers - humanity. [Ghosts, pg. 279]
“We are inside a Micro Dyson sphere…

The Forerunners’ grasp of slipspace technology was far more advanced than ours or the Covenant’s… I believe this sphere resides in the center of the planet, encapsulated and protected by a slipspace bubble of compressed dimensionality.” [Halo: Ghosts of Onyx, pg. 381]


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  • 07.05.2008 4:22 PM PDT
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wow thats awesome

  • 07.05.2008 7:06 PM PDT
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I am reularg.

I totaly agree.

  • 07.05.2008 7:31 PM PDT
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I think Chief and Cortana went to some Forerunners backup place if something goes wrong with slipspace. You know, you always have to be a plan B. Something that cover your ass...

[Edited on 07.06.2008 6:46 AM PDT]

  • 07.06.2008 6:45 AM PDT

I'M GONNA HEADBUT YA!!
I'M GONNA HEADBUT YA!!
I'M GONNA HEADBUT YA!!

[quote]Posted by: phearmaker

btw,
ONYX ASPLODED.

Actulalllllly
Onyx didnt fully explode, [Edit] actulallllly onyx didnt explode at all, it IMPLODED so now (over a vast wall of text of legendary proportions) Dr.Halsey, Chief mendez, kelly, fred, linda, ash, and others are trapped in a hollow sort of planet thingie. why did it blow up? well i blame stosh

  • 07.06.2008 12:40 PM PDT
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an error: how is possible that mars is in an other universe too?

  • 07.06.2008 12:50 PM PDT
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“To say more would spoil be it’s overall its a game that needs to be played.” - Aristotle

*slow-claps*

I have to say, this theory has more than occured to me previously. But I'm afraid to come into the Halo 3 forums anymore because all the idiots floating around flame my theories whenever I posted them. You, sir, are brave. Best conceptual theory with little proof next to the Rainbow Theory.

Although I do have to say, I don't think Chief would've been able to stop the Flood if he time-traveled. Forerunners were exactly alike to him, and they even had better tech. It's still possible that he could've, although I also tend to doubt that.

My theory remains that chief launched out at Onyx. But yours is my second-best now.

  • 07.06.2008 1:02 PM PDT
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My brain hurts. Very well done though. Makes you wonder what Bungie's next project is....

  • 07.06.2008 1:18 PM PDT
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Maybe it's just Mars in the Halo Universe.

  • 07.06.2008 8:52 PM PDT
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FU.CK D1CK FU.CK D1CK FU.CK D1CK T1TTY-blam!-

  • 07.06.2008 9:36 PM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

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me and zeronos' awesome upcoming movie:
halo 3 THE NEXT teaser trailer
File Share
blooper reel for THE NEXT teaser trailer:
bloopers

1. not 100%
2. the planet he's floating near is ONYX because it was described in the book and looked just like the description (but in book planet was only half-uncovered/dug out)
3. master chief is a human being (although an augmented one) and cannot live for 200 years without food and water... not possible
4. maybe The Dawn had a security recorder on it because they were testing it and asked master chief to use it but he went old-skool in his Mark VI.
5. thermal signatures can be similar...
6. it's a game... not real... you don't need to waste effort and time to make random guesses hoping bungie will say YOU ARE AWESOME AND NOW YOU KNOW ALL OUR SECRETS


a good theory nontheless except for the points highlighted above.

Now lets all play nice and enjoy cold storage and bungie day with no more grievances

EDIT: Mendicant Bias wanted to protect MC so he teleported him to Onyx (the SHIELD installation and hoped he would find the slipspace rift where the SPARTAN III's, Kelly, Fred and Dr.Halsey are waiting

[Edited on 07.07.2008 8:17 AM PDT]

  • 07.07.2008 8:12 AM PDT