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This is quite possible. Great job on all the evidence.

  • 08.03.2008 7:50 AM PDT
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all i dont understand is the fact that he is saying in the legendary ending cortana wakes MC from his sleep this doesnt happen.Or is he just saying thats wut might happen????

  • 08.03.2008 8:14 AM PDT
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rofl man that wuz sweet

  • 08.03.2008 8:16 AM PDT
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dude u have no life sitting there thinking about this all day

u probably spent like a month sitting on your computor reasearching every scene in every halo game to find this

NO LIFE

  • 08.03.2008 11:02 AM PDT
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does anyone find it funny that forward unto dawn and marathon sound the same, just as pimps at sea and halo 3 do, haha that is funny

  • 08.03.2008 5:14 PM PDT

Posted by: maverick14889
dude u have no life sitting there thinking about this all day

u probably spent like a month sitting on your computor reasearching every scene in every halo game to find this

NO LIFE


It probably took you four hours to finger tap that entire, Poorly written excuse for a sentence.

And, the theory took me 30 minutes of my spare time to put together.

Get the -blam!- out of my thread scrub.

Good day.

  • 08.03.2008 5:17 PM PDT
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Possibly

  • 08.03.2008 5:27 PM PDT
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Hey i would buy a game like that with masterchief in it

  • 08.03.2008 5:59 PM PDT

Sorry for not being concise, but here is what really happened and some plausible speculation backed up by the knowledge we have of our galaxy and the rest of our local group.

The Ark is 2 to the 18th light years from the Galactic Center, which would put it over 200,000 light years from the galactic center of the Milky Way. This is why our galaxy is completely visible in the sky while on the Ark. At the end of the game, we know that the portal collapsed while the Chief’s ship was passing through it, which cleaved it in two. The Arbiter was in the half that made it through, while the Chief and Cortana were left behind. Because Installation 04 was not complete when it fired, its effectiveness was severely limited. This is why the Halo Effect did not kill the Chief (plus he is not your everyday sentient life form). It only knocked him unconscious. Installation 04 shook itself to pieces while firing and apparently did significant damage to the Ark according to Cortana’s analysis. One thing that is interesting to note is that in both the Legendary ending and the credits ending, the same nebulae can be seen. This is puzzling considering how far away the Ark is from our galaxy. From the in-game view we get of the Milky Way, it is clear that the Ark is located either above or below the Galactic Axis. If it were on the axis, all we would see is a bright line with a bright bulge in the center. However, the spiral arms of the Milky Way are clearly visible. Now both the Small Magellanic Cloud and Large Magellanic Cloud (Satellite Galaxies of the Milky Way) are located around 200,000 light years from the Galactic Center of the Milky Way and both are below the Galactic axis. After seeing pictures, I am convinced that the nebulae that we see in the Legendary Ending is the Small Magellanic Cloud. The cutscene shows a blue gas cloud with several luminous blue stars. Pictures of the SMC also have these characteristic blue gas clouds with young blue stars. If the Forerunners were looking to escape the Milky Way, it would make sense that they would go to the nearest galaxy (so that they could watch the story of the Reclaimers unfold from a safe distance). This becomes even more plausible due to the nature of the stars in the SMC. There are several blue stars, which are the hottest and most energetic. An advanced civilization such as theirs would certainly need these vast energies to meet their needs.

Now shifting gears…

In his final message to Master Chief in Terminal 7, Mendicant Bias says that he ‘would have his masters know that he has changed’, and that the Chief shall be his example to them. First and foremost, this acknowledges that there are still Forerunners alive. Secondly, it seems to suggest that MB wants to send Chief to the Forerunners somehow to show them he has changed.

To me, this seems to be the reason why the portal collapsed on MC and Cortana. MB knew that if they made it through the portal, it would take many many years of technological advancement before the humans could reach the Ark without the use of a key ship. Mendicant Bias therefore closed the portal on Chief and Cortana (we already know from the terminals that he was tampering with the portal control system before), which left them floating in the intergalactic space near the Ark and the SMC. It seems likely that MB knew the gravitational pull of the stars within the SMC and the ‘Legendary Planet’ would eventually draw in the ship that the Chief and Cortana were stranded aboard. This would fulfill MB’s desire in the seventh terminal (if the planet we see in the Legendary ending is in fact inhabited by Forerunners). It is also possible that the planet we see is a planet sized mobile city (not to dissimilar from High Charity). If that were the case then the Legendary Ending would not have to take place too long after the end of Halo 3. If the Forerunners came to them a short time after their ship was left derelict and floating, then many key characters would remain alive for the next story to unfold, but who really knows what Bungie has in store next? I just know that they wouldn't set up for a remake of a game they have already done. They are too creative for that.





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So, does this mean that MC's armor and Cortana are like the base of Marathon technology? If it is then you should play through the marathon games and look in the writings for something that could maybe prove that.

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Posted by: SaMMus38
Sorry for not being concise, but here is what really happened and some plausible speculation backed up by the knowledge we have of our galaxy and the rest of our local group.

The Ark is 2 to the 18th light years from the Galactic Center, which would put it over 200,000 light years from the galactic center of the Milky Way. This is why our galaxy is completely visible in the sky while on the Ark. At the end of the game, we know that the portal collapsed while the Chief’s ship was passing through it, which cleaved it in two. The Arbiter was in the half that made it through, while the Chief and Cortana were left behind. Because Installation 04 was not complete when it fired, its effectiveness was severely limited. This is why the Halo Effect did not kill the Chief (plus he is not your everyday sentient life form). It only knocked him unconscious. Installation 04 shook itself to pieces while firing and apparently did significant damage to the Ark according to Cortana’s analysis. One thing that is interesting to note is that in both the Legendary ending and the credits ending, the same nebulae can be seen. This is puzzling considering how far away the Ark is from our galaxy. From the in-game view we get of the Milky Way, it is clear that the Ark is located either above or below the Galactic Axis. If it were on the axis, all we would see is a bright line with a bright bulge in the center. However, the spiral arms of the Milky Way are clearly visible. Now both the Small Magellanic Cloud and Large Magellanic Cloud (Satellite Galaxies of the Milky Way) are located around 200,000 light years from the Galactic Center of the Milky Way and both are below the Galactic axis. After seeing pictures, I am convinced that the nebulae that we see in the Legendary Ending is the Small Magellanic Cloud. The cutscene shows a blue gas cloud with several luminous blue stars. Pictures of the SMC also have these characteristic blue gas clouds with young blue stars. If the Forerunners were looking to escape the Milky Way, it would make sense that they would go to the nearest galaxy (so that they could watch the story of the Reclaimers unfold from a safe distance). This becomes even more plausible due to the nature of the stars in the SMC. There are several blue stars, which are the hottest and most energetic. An advanced civilization such as theirs would certainly need these vast energies to meet their needs.

Now shifting gears…

In his final message to Master Chief in Terminal 7, Mendicant Bias says that he ‘would have his masters know that he has changed’, and that the Chief shall be his example to them. First and foremost, this acknowledges that there are still Forerunners alive. Secondly, it seems to suggest that MB wants to send Chief to the Forerunners somehow to show them he has changed.

To me, this seems to be the reason why the portal collapsed on MC and Cortana. MB knew that if they made it through the portal, it would take many many years of technological advancement before the humans could reach the Ark without the use of a key ship. Mendicant Bias therefore closed the portal on Chief and Cortana (we already know from the terminals that he was tampering with the portal control system before), which left them floating in the intergalactic space near the Ark and the SMC. It seems likely that MB knew the gravitational pull of the stars within the SMC and the ‘Legendary Planet’ would eventually draw in the ship that the Chief and Cortana were stranded aboard. This would fulfill MB’s desire in the seventh terminal (if the planet we see in the Legendary ending is in fact inhabited by Forerunners). It is also possible that the planet we see is a planet sized mobile city (not to dissimilar from High Charity). If that were the case then the Legendary Ending would not have to take place too long after the end of Halo 3. If the Forerunners came to them a short time after their ship was left derelict and floating, then many key characters would remain alive for the next story to unfold, but who really knows what Bungie has in store next? I just know that they wouldn't set up for a remake of a game they have already done. They are too creative for that.





wow that got me thinking some things from my earlier post are possible.

  • 08.04.2008 4:40 AM PDT

Finished the Fight!

Y'all do realize that -- this being Sci-fi and all, involving incomprehensible technologies -- the MC could actually be anywhere in the Universe(s)? Bungie may have no idea where the story goes now (possibly even less now since they're no longer with Microsoft and who knows that MS will do with the franchise that --in a fair universe -- should rightfully be theirs now). I see the final Legendary cutscene as just a promise that the Chief will possibly live to fight another day somewhere else in the Universe, when and if Bungie and MS decide what to do next.

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Lol, this reminds me of the explosion in RvB when one of the guys (cant remember his name) gets blasted into a 2D-ish enviroment (i guess that was marathon?). Kinda the same setting.

  • 08.04.2008 12:13 PM PDT
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I believe since one of eric nylunds books is titled The Ghosts Of Onyx the planet in the background is Onyx and the next game may have something to do with that planet or it might be Reach the planet in which John-117, the master cheif went to the SPARTAN training program a.k.a spartan school

  • 08.04.2008 12:14 PM PDT
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it sound soild but i think that planet is onyx not some marathon game.

  • 08.04.2008 12:15 PM PDT
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Hey whats up everybody!! This is ice dodo and welcome to my profile!! If you ever need to contact me just send a friend request or message me on bungie.net! Thanks!

Well it all make sense any way!! Bungie wanted it all to connect!! Other wise they would have made a game about pirates and stuff Besides with all the so called theories around about Halo and such, Bungie is probably having fun watching us try to make sense of halo when its just a game they made!! Also, another point don't other companies show something from past game sthey made into newer games!!?? Even comicbooks, movies, and tv does this so i dont think its much of a theory!!

ice dodo

  • 08.04.2008 12:20 PM PDT
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=)

Kudos to you my friend, unlike others, you can SCIENTIFICALLY proove your theory. I wonder what Bungie will call John's next adventure...

  • 08.04.2008 12:23 PM PDT

When you say mars do you mean the mars next to earth or some other mars because i thought chief was in another universe so how could it be our mars????

  • 08.04.2008 12:26 PM PDT
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nice, you must be smart and have a lot of time on your hands
but bear in mind no matter what happens, halo is just a game
get some air

  • 08.04.2008 12:35 PM PDT

A lone wolf, and a mighty bear, I am.

A shadow, outcasted from society, left to die.

Risen I have, and with vengance I do.

you are the only halo nerd I like.

  • 08.04.2008 5:07 PM PDT
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O M Jesus!

  • 08.05.2008 1:57 AM PDT
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-blam!- Bungie



do not click his link it is very vulgar

  • 08.05.2008 3:50 AM PDT
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I never played marathon but is it good..and your theory is awesome your head must have been about to explode when you were done (0) (0)
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  • 08.05.2008 5:53 PM PDT
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What is the Halo marathon theory?
Don't flame please, I just joined the forums.

During the credits, Bungie had a mountain in the background that was modeled off Mount Rainier. So, Bungie could've modeled the Planet in the Legendary Cut Scene off of Mars, not intending to make it the same Universe as the Milky Way.


  • 08.06.2008 1:19 AM PDT