- Ogier
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- Exalted Legendary Member
I could use that excuse of yours, that she was simulating human emotion and was too busy worrying, hoping, and doing all she could.As an example, the Beta simulations of Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space. They can pass the Turing tests by emulating human emotion, but emotions do not effect the actual thought process of the AI. She is only following a set of "emotion emulation" instructions, and not too occupied with emotion to gather what she can on where they are. You say it yourself in this next quote. So...
You are assuming that Cortana resorted to human emotion in this situation. AI constructs are created to emulate human emotion for easier interaction with humans, not actually experience it. I believe I worded this wrong originally, even though the analogy is a little clearer on what I was trying to say. It would be as good as actively hiding to not launch the beacon. To actively hide would be illogical. So, given that launching the beacon increases the chances of being found, however small, the only choice is to launch the beacon. Durandal was thought to be in the theoretical fourth stage, if there is one, yet he was able to multitask flying a ship, ordering troops and the cyborg, transporting, opening doors, etc. That Cortana has gone rampant at all has yet to be established.
I was breaking down a radio transmission into what we perceive it as, Ogier, which entails the three of those, which is why I used "/" instead of commas. I suppose I should be very basic with my grammar from now on so you can pick things up a little more easily. I will admit that I was incorrect in my assumption, but the original point I was making still stands that you are claiming that Cortana is clinging to a human emotion of hope, so much as to lie both to the Chief as well as herself, despite the fact that it will take 200,000 years. That is absolutely ridiculous, and of course, I'm not surprised that you didn't address this specifically, but rather attacked my irrelevant mistake.You made it very clear you thought radio signals traveled slower than light, and you based the entire paragraph on it. I find it hard to believe the foundation of the argument was irrelevant, and not worthy of attack. And you were breaking down radio waves to the human perception of sound...in a vacuum. You need to start looking behind you when you backpedal, you're just digging yourself deeper. That you can show such blatant idiocy and insult my intelligence in the same breath is amazing.
It doesn't matter if it takes half a million years to reach Earth, it's still better chances than not launching the beacon at all. What matters is that the signal would not take years to reach Earth if they were near Sol, which disproves, again, that Cortana does not believe they made it through. Again, not dropping the beacon is as good as actively hiding, and again, claiming that she launched the beacon because she thought they made it through was the whole basis for your argument, so the speed at which a radio wave travels is far from irrelevant.
My "track record" has consisted of backed up statements and claims. Are you claiming that there are no astronomical inaccuracies in the Halo universe?Your track record of cop-out answers, like the one that quote responds to. I am not claiming there are not inaccuracies in the Halo universe. I am saying you should not assume one until it is implicilty shown. Such as assuming the SMC, or any blue cloud, has been moved near Sol simply because it's the only way the Mars theory could not be invalidated.
You really might want to brush up on your English, as you clearly have a problem with vocabulary.When every piece of evidence you present is meant to disprove that the planet is not Mars and yet do not believe it is Mars, expect to be misunderstood. Hurling insults is no substitute for learning how to clearly express yourself.
Skipping Onyx. It'd take an entire post length to respond, and I haven't got time for such a small victory (prove Onyx vs. < 1% chance Onyx). I've already said I wasn't a believer in the Onyx theories, but the construct of mobile machines can probably move, so the MC being outside the galaxy couldn't matter much. (edit: actually, as I get farther down, I realize how content-sparse your reply is, so I'll be skipping a lot more)
So you now admit that your "blue magellanic cloud in both locations" theory was completely false and based on no facts since we do not ever see such a thing near The Ark, yes?Yes, because the cutscene "camera" never turned to face the direction the Ark was facing, nothing in that direction exists. I was trying to illustrate for you that the cutscenes never show the direction that the Ark is facing, and that just because the cutscenes do not show something does not mean it does not exist. There is a sun, but the camera never pans in its direction. There is a blue cloud, but the cutscene cameras are never pointed at it and the sky is too obscured in all the levels. It could even be that the blue cloud is remnants of the collapsed portal. The portal itself is blue, even though the vapors surrounding it (different from the cloud behind the Ark) are a light shade of purple.
Also, I provided much more than just an argument about her voice acting, but you've already tried and failed to argue my other points (different cloud, context of speech and unchangeable mechanics of the English language, the beacon, Mendicant Bias' promise to atone (though this could be argued easily), and a slew of evident opposition to all of your claims), so I don't blaim you for mentioning just this one.You only brought the purple cloud up in this post, so how could I respond to it? Also, your perception of the context is way off, and so is your silly assumption of how the English language works. I've already proven your beacon theory false - twice, I think, since you keep bringing it up - and the MB message is too vague. You can't even prove whether he meant he would hold off the firing sequence to get the MC more time or try to send him somewhere or anything else.
The Forerunner have the ability to create artificial atmospheres and natural lighting, apparently without having a natural or artificial sun. Don't ask me how it works, since I have no clue, but Delta and Alpha Halos were both lit with no bright star nearby to do so. Before you say Threshold, that was a gaseous planet.Actually, atmosphere can be mined from comets (a la Ringworld) or a planet, Halo's gravity is created by centrifugal force, and both 04 and 05 were built next to planets, which form around stars. Try again.
I provided an adequate opposition to this crackpot theory as well.Which was even more crackpot than mine.
I'm sorry you gave up on considering both sides, but that means you're giving up on the science of investigation and turning to personal belief.I'm open to anything new that doesn't contradict the facts, isn't riddled with holes, and doesn't rely on "anything's possible" to work.
Actually, they are counterpoints to your assertion that Cortana would have realized being suddenly dropped out of slipspace too early.Arguing against your counterpoints to my points does not mean I'm arguing against myself.
Going by your logic that she could have somehow documented the whole of constellations on her way out, I could say that she took a single glance out into space and saw the explosion happen, which is actually much more credible as it would take significantly less time to analyze rather than the whole of space in order to stitch constellations together.I can stitch two photos together in less than a minute on this clumsy little trackpad, and superimposing one picture over another doesn't take much either. It shouldn't take a millisecond for an AI from 500 years in the future to do it.
The explosion happened as she was facing the Chief, out toward The Ark. Very easy to see and notice, hence her quote of how it "did a number on The Ark." Voila, I've invalidated it. Hurray for you and me.There is no damage to the Ark yet apparent from the cutscene. The light from the damage to the Ark that collapsed the portal would arrive at the portal at the same time (or after, if Slipspace was involved) the portal collapsed. They would have to be outside the portal to see it. Violá, revalidated.
Also, just in case I haven't mentioned this before (I remember writing it, but I don't think it made the final cuts of my posts), why would the MC be unconscious if they were in the portal? We've already seen from the books and games that Slipstream preserves momentum, cutting off one half of the ship - inside or outside the portal - wouldn't produce any jolt to knock anyone unconscious; sudden drops out of Slipspace haven't incapacitated anyone either. The only reason for the Master Chief to be unconscious is the sudo-shockwave from 04's partial fire / explosion.