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Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

oh ok so what do you think you? huh?

  • 09.01.2008 8:00 AM PDT
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That is my gripe, because you needn't. I am opposing your reasoning, not your conclusion. For future reference: I am arguing the possibility of the theory, not the factuality.There're only two facts in my "against Mars" argument we've started: they don't think they've gone through the portal, and there's no blue cloud/SMC near Sol. The rest has been "soft evidence" that can't be directly, concretely supported that I've used for visualization, possible reasons, or counter arguments to other "soft evidence" that you've presented (such as inter-universal travel or "Cortana was too busy to look at the sky that she was flying in"). I also believe that the facts negate the possibility, and introducing "anything's possible" is not only bad form, it is bad logic - especially when if they ever made it into the portal at all is disputed.

You responded to me, adding in the second part of the quote which I originally deemed unnecessary. When you made your observations on it, I responded a second time, addressing both quotes directly, as I said I did, which you can re-read here.You deliberately dropped the sentence to better suit your argument, and have been backpedaling ever since. Mentioning it after I called you on it is no excuse.

Contrarily, you ignored that my "anything's possible" statements regarding the blue clouds are backed upNot that you have not addressed my conjectures, but that every time they are mentioned you add "unfounded" or "baseless" or such, despite my having provided backup as to why I believe it. You're throwing words around.
I did not. The purple cloud is in the opposite direction the ship was heading. I don't know why you use it as basis for insulting me so many times during your post, when it so obviously has nothing to do with the argument. It's like I've asked you about the color of my kitchen walls, and you're at the neighbors', badmouthing the color of their living room.

In cutting down your responses and my quotations, you neglected to address some very important details, some of which were the whole basis behind some of my counter-arguments.No I did not. I've said already - something you repeatedly ignore - I quoted small bits only to get an indication of where I was in the post. If I quoted A and B, I addressed everything between A and B between quote A and quote B.
I did not miss the point. You purport they saw the pattern before magnification, I addressed that. I did not even make mention of "back it off" in my last post. I would hardly count that as pouncing. We are arguing this to prove that the horizon of a spherical construct of Sentinels is or is not indistinguishable from a natural planet.

A second example could be your purposeful ignorance toward the point of discussion that you originally brought up about the blue magellanic cloud at The Ark being the same as the blue magellanic cloud at the Legendary Ending. As you now should have read above, there is no blue magellanic cloud near The Ark, whatsoever.As I've already said, I already addressed this. I never said the purple cloud was the blue one. The purple cloud is in the other direction, and didn't even cross my mind until you brought to up.

I made a clear mistake with radio wave speed, and you made a clear mistake here. The difference is that I'm man enough to admit it.Stop. I never mentioned the purple cloud. I'll not recant what I have not said. If you're man enough, why are you still backpedaling on Cortana's quote and claiming your stupid radio wave mistake, that you based an entire argument on, is irrelevant?

You've been parading your forerunner portal mechanics around in this thread as if it were common sense and obviously factual.Proposing something once is not parading it. I have made it clear that they are possible explainations for why the facts happened. If we know that the portal was instantanious, here's my explaination as to why. Anyone else can come up with any other reason as they please. Whether or not the portal is instantanious is because the "in-between" doesn't exist or because the "in-between" is tiny volume stretched out to fit between the two ends doesn't matter, and it does not invalidate the fact it attempts to explain because the portal's instantaniousness has already been proven elsewhere and by different evidence.

Lastly, yet another example would be your purposeful negligence of how you, rather than acknowledging the clear mechanics and definition of a single English word which in and of itself was enough to discredit your "They're still near The Ark" theoryIt is your turn to be lectured on the English language, because I'm getting sick of your crap. Us is the objective case we. We is indiscriminate to where the subject is; obviously, we are arguing despite not being in the same place. Since us is the objective case we, us is also location-agnostic: I am part of Group A, and we (all of us) are on the sidewalk. Half of Group A moves to the sidewalk across the street. Now some of us are over here, and some of us are over there. Some is defined as "at least one," so even if Group A is only two people, some of us are one one side of the street and some of us are on the other. Therefore, if one of a group of three makes it through a portal, the party of two may say, "some of us made it." That is mechanics and clear use of the phrase, and it is why you are flat-out wrong.

Given the context of the statement (note the camera shot of the torn hull), the correct interpretation of the voice acting (distress), and the fact that the ship would have to be flying backwards (the bridge of a ship does not propel the engines, FYI) for them to think they had made it and the Arbiter had not, Cortana and the Chief are not that "some." There is proof they do not believe they entered the portal.

Apply Occam's Razor to this: either they missed entering the portal, missed dropping out of Slipspace, missed the change in constellations and scenery, dropped out nowhere near Sol despite being severed at the exit to earth or traveled to another universe where the laws of physics and astronomical landmarks don't apply … or they just didn't go through. But I know how you love that itty-bitty chance.

I challenge you to cite me a single source or literary work with the usage you are implying.
Here's 301 examples.
Here's 794 more.
And a few more: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

The only "Horizon Theory" I came upon during my searches has been a scientific paper on the ancient Egyptian pyramids.I can't find it either. However, take a poll asking whether people expect a sunrise from space to come from the right or the left.

To start with, Cortana is never inside of John's head while they are in space until he secures himself behind Cortana's "terminal" and faces away from the opening as Halo detonates.She does fly the Pelican, and she isn't blind while doing so. Funny how this screen shows Halo did not blot out the sky, and somehow you missed it despite it being in the same cutscene as the screen you just linked. Let me guess. You deemed it irrelevant, just like Cortana's quote and the speed of light?

My point is that Cortana had no reason to either glance or set a camera feed at the trillions of stars in space (which, by the way, are blocked off both by The Ark as well as the Frigate's walls or hull) and start documenting them when they have only seconds until they either died or made it into the portal.The number of stars does not matter, one photo captures many. The stars do not need to be individually documented, only the view from the ship. Ship hull does not block the view when a ship AI's eyes are the cameras on the hull. The Ark does not block all of the view. She has every reason to assess where she is.

However, Nylund's "The Fall of Reach", specifically during Blue Team's mission in Cote d'Azur during the Battle of Sigma Octanus IV, explains that not only are you are wrong in saying that they are automatic, as the helmet recorders need to be manually activated, but the M4 Field Disks also have a capacity limit, hence the reason they need to be turned off and on.Since Fall of Reach is not very fresh in my mind, until you come up with a page number I'm going to assume that 500 years of on-the-fly compression and storage density development make that an incredibly high limit; we've already seen an AI in excess of exabytes being stored on a thumb drive. There's nothing stopping her from storing the feed from the cameras in her own, internal memory either.

  • 09.01.2008 2:23 PM PDT
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I could use that excuse of yours, that she was simulating human emotion and was too busy worrying, hoping, and doing all she could.As an example, the Beta simulations of Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space. They can pass the Turing tests by emulating human emotion, but emotions do not effect the actual thought process of the AI. She is only following a set of "emotion emulation" instructions, and not too occupied with emotion to gather what she can on where they are. You say it yourself in this next quote. So...

You are assuming that Cortana resorted to human emotion in this situation. AI constructs are created to emulate human emotion for easier interaction with humans, not actually experience it. I believe I worded this wrong originally, even though the analogy is a little clearer on what I was trying to say. It would be as good as actively hiding to not launch the beacon. To actively hide would be illogical. So, given that launching the beacon increases the chances of being found, however small, the only choice is to launch the beacon. Durandal was thought to be in the theoretical fourth stage, if there is one, yet he was able to multitask flying a ship, ordering troops and the cyborg, transporting, opening doors, etc. That Cortana has gone rampant at all has yet to be established.

I was breaking down a radio transmission into what we perceive it as, Ogier, which entails the three of those, which is why I used "/" instead of commas. I suppose I should be very basic with my grammar from now on so you can pick things up a little more easily. I will admit that I was incorrect in my assumption, but the original point I was making still stands that you are claiming that Cortana is clinging to a human emotion of hope, so much as to lie both to the Chief as well as herself, despite the fact that it will take 200,000 years. That is absolutely ridiculous, and of course, I'm not surprised that you didn't address this specifically, but rather attacked my irrelevant mistake.You made it very clear you thought radio signals traveled slower than light, and you based the entire paragraph on it. I find it hard to believe the foundation of the argument was irrelevant, and not worthy of attack. And you were breaking down radio waves to the human perception of sound...in a vacuum. You need to start looking behind you when you backpedal, you're just digging yourself deeper. That you can show such blatant idiocy and insult my intelligence in the same breath is amazing.

It doesn't matter if it takes half a million years to reach Earth, it's still better chances than not launching the beacon at all. What matters is that the signal would not take years to reach Earth if they were near Sol, which disproves, again, that Cortana does not believe they made it through. Again, not dropping the beacon is as good as actively hiding, and again, claiming that she launched the beacon because she thought they made it through was the whole basis for your argument, so the speed at which a radio wave travels is far from irrelevant.

My "track record" has consisted of backed up statements and claims. Are you claiming that there are no astronomical inaccuracies in the Halo universe?Your track record of cop-out answers, like the one that quote responds to. I am not claiming there are not inaccuracies in the Halo universe. I am saying you should not assume one until it is implicilty shown. Such as assuming the SMC, or any blue cloud, has been moved near Sol simply because it's the only way the Mars theory could not be invalidated.

You really might want to brush up on your English, as you clearly have a problem with vocabulary.When every piece of evidence you present is meant to disprove that the planet is not Mars and yet do not believe it is Mars, expect to be misunderstood. Hurling insults is no substitute for learning how to clearly express yourself.

Skipping Onyx. It'd take an entire post length to respond, and I haven't got time for such a small victory (prove Onyx vs. < 1% chance Onyx). I've already said I wasn't a believer in the Onyx theories, but the construct of mobile machines can probably move, so the MC being outside the galaxy couldn't matter much. (edit: actually, as I get farther down, I realize how content-sparse your reply is, so I'll be skipping a lot more)

So you now admit that your "blue magellanic cloud in both locations" theory was completely false and based on no facts since we do not ever see such a thing near The Ark, yes?Yes, because the cutscene "camera" never turned to face the direction the Ark was facing, nothing in that direction exists. I was trying to illustrate for you that the cutscenes never show the direction that the Ark is facing, and that just because the cutscenes do not show something does not mean it does not exist. There is a sun, but the camera never pans in its direction. There is a blue cloud, but the cutscene cameras are never pointed at it and the sky is too obscured in all the levels. It could even be that the blue cloud is remnants of the collapsed portal. The portal itself is blue, even though the vapors surrounding it (different from the cloud behind the Ark) are a light shade of purple.

Also, I provided much more than just an argument about her voice acting, but you've already tried and failed to argue my other points (different cloud, context of speech and unchangeable mechanics of the English language, the beacon, Mendicant Bias' promise to atone (though this could be argued easily), and a slew of evident opposition to all of your claims), so I don't blaim you for mentioning just this one.You only brought the purple cloud up in this post, so how could I respond to it? Also, your perception of the context is way off, and so is your silly assumption of how the English language works. I've already proven your beacon theory false - twice, I think, since you keep bringing it up - and the MB message is too vague. You can't even prove whether he meant he would hold off the firing sequence to get the MC more time or try to send him somewhere or anything else.

The Forerunner have the ability to create artificial atmospheres and natural lighting, apparently without having a natural or artificial sun. Don't ask me how it works, since I have no clue, but Delta and Alpha Halos were both lit with no bright star nearby to do so. Before you say Threshold, that was a gaseous planet.Actually, atmosphere can be mined from comets (a la Ringworld) or a planet, Halo's gravity is created by centrifugal force, and both 04 and 05 were built next to planets, which form around stars. Try again.

I provided an adequate opposition to this crackpot theory as well.Which was even more crackpot than mine.

I'm sorry you gave up on considering both sides, but that means you're giving up on the science of investigation and turning to personal belief.I'm open to anything new that doesn't contradict the facts, isn't riddled with holes, and doesn't rely on "anything's possible" to work.

Actually, they are counterpoints to your assertion that Cortana would have realized being suddenly dropped out of slipspace too early.Arguing against your counterpoints to my points does not mean I'm arguing against myself.

Going by your logic that she could have somehow documented the whole of constellations on her way out, I could say that she took a single glance out into space and saw the explosion happen, which is actually much more credible as it would take significantly less time to analyze rather than the whole of space in order to stitch constellations together.I can stitch two photos together in less than a minute on this clumsy little trackpad, and superimposing one picture over another doesn't take much either. It shouldn't take a millisecond for an AI from 500 years in the future to do it.

The explosion happened as she was facing the Chief, out toward The Ark. Very easy to see and notice, hence her quote of how it "did a number on The Ark." Voila, I've invalidated it. Hurray for you and me.There is no damage to the Ark yet apparent from the cutscene. The light from the damage to the Ark that collapsed the portal would arrive at the portal at the same time (or after, if Slipspace was involved) the portal collapsed. They would have to be outside the portal to see it. Violá, revalidated.

Also, just in case I haven't mentioned this before (I remember writing it, but I don't think it made the final cuts of my posts), why would the MC be unconscious if they were in the portal? We've already seen from the books and games that Slipstream preserves momentum, cutting off one half of the ship - inside or outside the portal - wouldn't produce any jolt to knock anyone unconscious; sudden drops out of Slipspace haven't incapacitated anyone either. The only reason for the Master Chief to be unconscious is the sudo-shockwave from 04's partial fire / explosion.

  • 09.01.2008 2:24 PM PDT
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Saying that a separate universe could exist, and that blue cloud (magellanic or otherwise) could be elsewhere in the universe does not defy physics either. I don't know why you're even mentioning it. This symbol, '∉' is an exclusion symbol. Good thing to know before wasting time countering what I didn't say. So I'm only responding to the sentence that's actually relevant to the argument I presented there: if you can squash the mass of the SMC into Sol, and not have the system form a giant black hole, it violates the laws of physics. If it doesn't violate the physics of your theoretical/hypothetical, self-created alternate universe, why didn't the frigate violently fly apart from lack of attraction between its atoms? Since we know they aren't in Oz or Wonderland, let's keep them in our own universe until it is conclusively proven they aren't in it, instead of using it as a cop-out.

Additionally, you are expected to admit when you are wrong, or simply give up rather than digging yourself in a hole.So lying through your teeth about what you've said earlier in the thread and claiming the speed at which radio waves travel, that you based an entire argument on, is irrelevant is what, exactly?

I've had to restate several points of mine because you refuse to accept English grammar and vocabulary definitions, for example. I find that ridiculous, and a huge waste of my time.You're right. I don't accept your erroneous definitions of grammar. I too, find it ridiculous that you've wasted your time arguing and insulting based on embarrassingly incorrect information.

Also don't bother responding if you're not going to have your citations on-hand, as you said you would.Actually, I never said I would. I said it would take a while. Longer, if I need to reply to your nonsense.

:::-Due to the literal translation of her statement that some of them made it through just in time, as well as her decision to drop the beacon, Cortana believes that their half of the frigate made it through the portal in time, while the Arbiter's did not, but is incorrect.And the frigate was flying backwards, as we can all plainly see ¬_¬

:::-The frigate, as seen in the Legendary Ending heading toward a mechanical-looking, pattern-laden planetoid, is in an entirely new location, away from both Sol as well as The Ark.That I can maybe buy, if I ignore some things. But that is for another time, this discussion is about the possibility of Mars, and this thread is about the possibility of Marathon.

:::-Mendicant Bias' statement of guiding Master Chief, keeping him safe, atoning for past sins by making him an example holds more significance than simply delaying the Portal's closing, or halting Halo's destruction. It is my belief that he has purposefully sent their half of the frigate to another location, as per the above quote.There's nothing to support him doing more than slowing 04's destruction, if he did at all.

:::-The Halo/Marathon Crossover Theory, while incredibly unlikely, unethical, and a bit lame, is still a possible theory that has not yet been factually debunked.Until I get those terminal citations, in a week or two hopefully.

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:::-Due to the literal translation of her statement that some of them made it through just in time, as well as her decision to drop the beacon, Cortana believes that their half of the frigate made it through the portal in time, while the Arbiter's did not, but is incorrect.And the frigate was flying backwards, as we can all plainly see ¬_¬

Indeed. Everyone can see that Forward Unto Dawn was flying in reverse. It's obvious that Cortana would think that they made it and the Arbiter didn't.



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  • 09.01.2008 5:24 PM PDT
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:::-Due to the literal translation of her statement that some of them made it through just in time, as well as her decision to drop the beacon, Cortana believes that their half of the frigate made it through the portal in time, while the Arbiter's did not, but is incorrect.And the frigate was flying backwards, as we can all plainly see ¬_¬

Indeed. Everyone can see that Forward Unto Dawn was flying in reverse. It's obvious that Cortana would think that they made it and the Arbiter didn't.
Exactly! The ship is outfitted with anti-thrusters. For every action, there is an opposite of an opposite reaction. How come we're the only ones who got the memo?

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  • 09.01.2008 6:13 PM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

DR T JR

if so the cryo tubes need power to run and cortana had about 4 more years to live or so so that kills you agument XD

  • 09.01.2008 6:27 PM PDT

Not now Chief I'm in the zone.

easy its just halo

  • 09.04.2008 4:39 PM PDT
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Why is he not in the Marathon universe? Because there is no mention of the Master Chief in any of the Marathon games. This is made especially difficult to reconcile if that Legendary Planet is anywhere close to Mars.

  • 09.04.2008 10:50 PM PDT
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On top of that, I would like to provide actual evidence to support the thought that the Legendary Planet is NOT near Mars.

Let us assume first that the Legendary Planet is in fact either Mars or relatively close to Mars. This "blue nebula" is not a known formation in our own Universe, but very well could be in an alternate universe. We assume that the Marathon Universe is an alternate Universe to the Halo Universe. In order to prove that the Nebula cannot exist near Mars in the Marathon Universe, I will prove that the Marathon Universe is actually our Universe.

1. Pathways into Darkness takes place in the Marathon Universe as proven by Jason Jones:

the important thing about the hint book epilogue was to make all the player character's artifacts from the pyramid disappear from circulation before the marathon story begins. curious to know where they were in 2472, though, or who was really responsible for the projection in the spring of 1994.Thus, anything true about the PiD Universe, must be true about the Marathon Universe.

2. The following quotes come from the PiD Story Introduction:

Sixty-four million years ago, a large extra-terrestrial object struck the Earth in what would later be called the Yucatan Peninsula, in southeastern Mexico. [...] This particular being, whose name no human throat will ever learn to pronounce, was part of the cataclysmic battle that formed Magellanic Clouds, billions of years ago. [...] Only during the last few centuries has the god begun to effect changes on the surface of the Earth.This sets the stage as our universe. It does not say "Sixty-four million years ago, in another universe, a large..." but attempts to put our Universe in the plotline.

They later show a timetable of specific dates. Following the above example, this is rather circumstantial evidence.

3. Under the "Objective" section of the Story Introduction is this sentence:

Though the god can never be killed, the projection of the Jjaro dignitary told us here on Earth that if we acted quickly we could prevent it from awakening.The words "us here on Earth" are used. This is the final piece of evidence showing that the PiD Universe is our Universe and therefore, the Marathon Universe is also our Universe.

So, if the Marathon Universe is our Universe, then the blue Nebula depicted in the Legendary Cutscene could not be located near Mars, or be viewed from a location remotely close to our solar system, as it is not such in our own Universe.

  • 09.04.2008 11:38 PM PDT

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well the universe was created by two particles with 0 size and infanous mass coliding, then why wouldnt it happen twice? and those particles would to have had to come frome some where, perhapse another universe? and what if some how a piece of forerunner technology got incide chiefs half of the ship? we all know how it changes slipspace, and cortana would not know what happened they could have travelled through time and/or space. also how do we know shes not close to rampancy? especially after being with the flood/gravemind. for all we know she joined grave mind out of her rampancy and was just decieving chief. maybe she even snuck flood aboard meaning that there would be roots for a stryline in marathon. being 200 years in the future they would be the forerunner which means that they still have flood( because of the flood on mcs ship) and mc would help build the halos/ark. now befor you say "but it would hve to be in the past" well in marathon they could travel space and time so thats how they protected humans from the halo array, they sent them back in time, hoping that they will just go back forward in time to start off again. but for some reason they cant. so they jump start human kind. but the flood still develope, and still pose a threat. and it doesnt matter which universe, because either forcivlly or naturally, human kind starts.


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  • 09.06.2008 10:14 AM PDT

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it was the pics and phisics that make me believe.(GO BUNGIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

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  • 09.06.2008 10:16 AM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Hes on the grunt homeworld.

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it does sorta look like that, doesnt it

  • 09.06.2008 10:17 AM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.
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Onyx blew up, kindof. it fell apart into sentinals, so it's gone. And Marathon has a Death Star like surface, so know your facts before you criticise.
The Death Star in question.

  • 09.06.2008 10:33 AM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

You are like a Bungieoligist.

  • 09.06.2008 10:43 AM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

Posted by: Ogier
Posted by: rabid noodle
Onyx blew up, kindof. it fell apart into sentinals, so it's gone. And Marathon has a Death Star like surface, so know your facts before you criticise.
The Death Star in question.


Thank you for making educated posts Ogier.

  • 09.06.2008 11:14 AM PDT

I may be an idiot but what am I?

cool but a bad idea for a story line





multiplayer: spartans versus marathon

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Ender, marathon could very likely be a paralel universe, thus things would be very similar, even if it IS our earth its in the future, 200 years BEFORE halo, so its only been awake for a few centuries, around the time halo takes place, in fact about 50-40 years after. so its still possible.but that means mc would have time travelled, now befor you dissmis this we dont know what would happen if the slipspac portal collapsed on chiefs ship.

like i said before, what if he had a crystal like the one from the books? who knows what would happen.

check for my edit on my first comment.

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Since I have a little time today, here are some citations for you, Dream053. I'm just going to focus on the impossibility of the Master Chief being the Marathon cyborg, since you're all about this being a separate universe where humanity's history and astronomical landmarks don't matter.

Sources:
Manual clipping 1
Manual clipping 2
The Lost Network Packets
Fall of Reach, chapter 2

The LPN, I know you don't know, are the are the official, accurate dates. The dates in the Marathon terminals can't be trusted because of Leela's tampering, and I'm happy to use them instead of a bunch of different terminal screenshots anyway.

With apprehension, the same apprehension you felt three hundred and twenty-two years earlier, you envision Marcus Tiberius Buendia...on the eve of the launching of the Marathon.The cyborg was present at the launch of the Marathon in 2472. The Master Chief wasn't born until 39 years later in 2511, ± a year.

The TME is commonplace to you, humanity has used teleporters for almost five hundred years, and you yourself have been teleporting since before you were born.I guess humanity's using teleporters since around 2300, and somehow not having teleportation technology in Halo in 2552, doesn't matter to you. What matters is that the MC has not been teleporting since before he was born.

[you] begin to daydream about your childhood on Mars, your father's death when you were seven...The MC had his childhood on Eridanus 2, not Mars. He was kidnapped at age six, so he could not have seen his father die, either.

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Posted by: rabid noodle
Onyx blew up, kindof. it fell apart into sentinals, so it's gone. And Marathon has a Death Star like surface, so know your facts before you criticise.
The Death Star in question.

Thank you for making educated posts Ogier.

Thank you for ignoring all the exhaustive arguments I've made in your own thread, and instead posting a snitty remark.

  • 09.06.2008 5:24 PM PDT
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Ender, marathon could very likely be a paralel universe, thus things would be very similar, even if it IS our earth its in the future, 200 years BEFORE halo, so its only been awake for a few centuries, around the time halo takes place, in fact about 50-40 years after. so its still possible.but that means mc would have time travelled, now befor you dissmis this we dont know what would happen if the slipspac portal collapsed on chiefs ship.

like i said before, what if he had a crystal like the one from the books? who knows what would happen.

check for my edit on my first comment.

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You're missing my point. 200 years prior to Marathon doesn't matter. Large blue nebulae like that do not form in a matter of centuries.

  • 09.06.2008 11:31 PM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

y is your paragraph sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo llllllllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooojnnn nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggggggg......? y

  • 09.06.2008 11:32 PM PDT
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my songs while playin halo=
Weapons of Mass Distortion by The Crystal Method listen
Cure For The itch by Linkin Park listen
Clubbed to Death by Rob Dougan listen and sometimes
Believe Me by Fort Minor listen

i'm so confused.... but this is a really good theory.

  • 09.08.2008 9:04 PM PDT