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Posted by: Riujin Zer0
the marathon theroy is 100% correct


And the evidence for that is....

  • 09.16.2008 11:18 PM PDT
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  • 09.17.2008 1:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: Riujin Zer0
the marathon theroy is 100% correct
THEROY JEEEENKIIIINNNNNS

  • 09.18.2008 8:27 AM PDT

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OK i been a fan of Halo and played marathon B4 buttt. I wish and hope your theory is wrong on want him to land on Reach and find kelly and the other spartans from the book.(personally i hate being elites on halo 3 Arbiter=cool Chief= Baddass

Elites=WHY?!?!??!?!?!?!)

So random i want spartans to come back no marathon.but Marathon is probobly right and well.... i bet you all the salaries of bungie combined they will change it last minute and the story will suck. But if they use either Reach and the other spartans or.... marathon then thats awesome

  • 09.18.2008 9:05 AM PDT

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I doubt it but I had to ask.

Could any other games made by Bungie besides Marathon have anything to do with what happens in Halo?

  • 09.18.2008 9:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: mikexvx
nice try, but you are wrong.


And you're right? I don't think so.

  • 09.18.2008 2:14 PM PDT

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  • 09.18.2008 2:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: mikexvx
nice try, but you are wrong.
And you're right? I don't think so.
Oh marvel at the wit of the ignorant!

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Posted by: mikexvx
nice try, but you are wrong.

And you're right? I don't think so.

Oh marvel at the wit of the ignorant!

Posted by me. lol

Lmao its funny how people assume right and wrong. Dont be a critic hope hes wrong hope hes right whatever but do not criticize someone with no theory or Real Proof of them being wrong because if it God Forbit it is marathon and not reach(hoping he went into slipspace and ended up at reach) then your gonna feel like a dolt.

  • 09.19.2008 8:45 AM PDT
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i think the op did a great job with information, however, it can't be ruled out that its the planet Onyx....Onyx did not completely explode only the surface/crust did...and Onyx did have a moon as well. Onyx was a world built by the Forerunners which was meant as a means to safely escape while the halo rings were detonated. This is currently where the other Spartans that are left are trapped. Also it explains that Onyx is on the edge of our universe...so who's to say that the Master Chief's half of the ship didn't drop out of slipspace half way to Earth and at Onyx....i know ppl say that that wouldnt be possible....but think about it when they go through slipspace they are moving at the speed of light which they can go a long distance in such a short time. so if the portal/transition were to collapse it could cause a disruption splitting and warping the ship in half and droppin them out at 2 different locations. Onyx being a gigantic forerunner facility would explain the mechanical looking planet.


Also i think it is a little odd that when halo 3 came out they stopped the story of the other spartans and went back in time to the beginning again to harvest....because if this theory is true then continuing the other spartans' story would reveal and spoil the story of what happened to the master cheif.

This theory is much easier for ppl to follow and not nearly as confusing as the transdimensional travel theory. This would really confuse many ppl. With stories you like to keep a twist and suspense but not blow the story's proportions way out of the water. it would make sense if the cheif arrived at Onyx and saved the other spartans.

And to clarify....it can and will NOT be Reach...Reach was completely glassed (burned) by the covenant...the surviving spartans already escaped from reach...in fact the remaining Spartan-IIs are on planet Earth at the same time the Chief is in Halo 2..they are just on a different mission...which would eventually take them to Onyx in a plot by Dr. Halsey to save them from a war she didnt believe the humans would win. They met the Spartan-IIIs and got trapped there after several events after the planet's activation.

the remaining Spartan-IIs are (MC...of course, Linda, Fred, Kelly)

  • 09.19.2008 9:31 AM PDT

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  • 09.19.2008 9:35 AM PDT
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Lmao its funny how people assume right and wrong. Dont be a critic hope hes wrong hope hes right whatever but do not criticize someone with no theory or Real Proof of them being wrong because if it God Forbit it is marathon and not reach(hoping he went into slipspace and ended up at reach) then your gonna feel like a dolt.
Maybe I did go overboard with the stupid one-liner instead of explaining. I just come in here to make fun of morons. Morons include those lemmings that blindly accept the OP without a second thought; especially those who take that blind acceptance to attack mikexvx's quote, when a half-second Google search reveals he is right. I believe people need to actually pause to form a coherent thought before posting "OMG great theroy i bet bungie is laffing at us rite now," but I know that isn't going to happen.

If you go back farther in this thread, you will see that I have plenty of proof. I debunked the Halo=Marathon theory two pages ago using a single page from the Marathon manual. In fact, there is so much proof against Halo leading into Marathon that if even 5% of the OP theory is right I would think a fundamental law of the universe has been broken. And then I'd have much bigger problems than feeling like a dolt, as the fabric of space rips apart or something.

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Posted by: TheDemonLestat
Lmao its funny how people assume right and wrong. Dont be a critic hope hes wrong hope hes right whatever but do not criticize someone with no theory or Real Proof of them being wrong because if it God Forbit it is marathon and not reach(hoping he went into slipspace and ended up at reach) then your gonna feel like a dolt.
Maybe I did go overboard with the stupid one-liner instead of explaining. I just come in here to make fun of morons. Morons include those lemmings that blindly accept the OP without a second thought; especially those who take that blind acceptance to attack mikexvx's quote, when a half-second Google search reveals he is right. I believe people need to actually pause to form a coherent thought before posting "OMG great theroy i bet bungie is laffing at us rite now," but I know that isn't going to happen.

If you go back farther in this thread, you will see that I have plenty of proof. I debunked the Halo=Marathon theory two pages ago using a single page from the Marathon manual. In fact, there is so much proof against Halo leading into Marathon that if even 5% of the OP theory is right I would think a fundamental law of the universe has been broken. And then I'd have much bigger problems than feeling like a dolt, as the fabric of space rips apart or something.


Ok what i meant was not how harsh you were but how needed it was. and to the guys gigher than me. The Majority of reach was glassed Not the whole thing at least not told throught the books dont for get the get out of reach in "The First Strike" they were in a strip 1/4 the worlds surface Not glassed the planet. But I honestly say Onyx would be the logical choice."Ghosts of Onyx" the book say that 3 spartan2s and i believe a spartan 3 and 4 were there too.(Which would explain the whole Multiplayer campain???(i could have sworn i spelled this right...)

Now In case many people do not know why in halo 1 there where as many chiefs as players but in fact, that wasn't how it was. The other spatan was The Master Sniper Linda but she was in cryo stasis due to her condition. But don't forget that Captain Keys DIED in the book (The Flood)= Halo1 book version. So there are many clashes between the book story and the game story. But he can not go into marathon. too many people who have never played marathon let alone know what it is, would be confused. So the average gamer it would not make sense. Therefore the marketing strategy would be down the drain, unless people started to download marathon. But the percentage of people who would buy a game then GET ANOTHER game to Explain the first would say -blam!- Both games.

So 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000001% marathon(exaggeration)

Not Reach, too Much Glassed.

Only thing to make sense is Onyx, If they stick to the story(which would sell more books getting more people in to the story.

Yea and so u all know i am 17 and have a life so if u flame me, you will have some issues coming your way.

  • 09.20.2008 1:05 PM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

Just one question. What compells you to right this billion word thread on a fictional character?

  • 09.20.2008 4:17 PM PDT

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... maybe he really is?

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I really hope this theory is wrong for several reasons, the main one being that I never played Marathon and don't plan to. The second being that it would make Halo go form the simple shoot-everything-that-turns-out-to-be-a-bad-guy theme to a really-confusing-and-involving-Marathon-which-no-one-really-c ares-about theme!

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Posted by: phearmaker
It seems to me, That the next game bungie puts out will be before marathon, Or continue marathon somehow.


It seems that some people are not understanding why you see a nebula in the legendary ending.
MIKEFLOUNDERS said it best.
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Small Magellanic Cloud is 200,000 light years away from our galaxy ,our galaxy is 100,000 light years across so the radius is 50,000 light years so 2.5 galactic radius would be 150,000 light years to where chief is and 50.000 light years the the small magellanic cloud in the back ground so he is prity much still in our universe and in marathon you tack off from earth in the marathon as a secruity guard....


Halo 3 takes place 200 YEARS before marathon, When master chief's part of the ship slips into the marathon universe, It is still the same exact year he was just in. He floats in space for 200 years until you see the colonized mars appear, And then get eclipsed by the sun eclipsing luna in the background.
This
Is
Not
A
Time
Travel
Theory.


btw,
ONYX ASPLODED.


NEW SUPPORTING EVIDENCE
FINALLY UPDATED

At the beginning of the legendary ending, Right where Cortana is awaking the chief from his little nap, You see a small object that looks just like the security com device that the security bots in marathon had.

It also shows in the halo 3 permutation.
Take a look - Picture proof.
Side view / back view of the security helmet permutation ( adds the communication box )
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/securitycom side.jpg
And now the beginning of the legendary cutscene... You can clearly see the Com box floating with the cheif
http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/?action=vie w&current=Securitycom.jpg


And if you have a counter-theory, Then please support yourself with any type of source available, Pictures, Interviews, Anything except of rumors, Or what is widely believed without proof.
If you don't, You will be insulted. =]



As the frigate escaped through the portal, Cortana states that the portal collapsed just as they were going through.

Which means the other half that the arbiter was in, made it completely through.

It is my theory ( 100% positive in my head ) , That when the portal collapsed, It did so on the master chiefs side of the ship, Sending them into another universe. The arbiter is in the halo universe, In the same time, But chief + cortana are in the marathon universe.
You can also see a resemblance between the planet in the cut scene, and the planet image "Infestation" That was involved in part of IRIS.
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/9011/infestationsm1.jpg
This image was from server 2.

Look at the legendary cut scene, Look where the light originates from, Then look at that picture.
You are looking at an early mars, From the game marathon, With the sun eclipsing Luna, Which creates the big flash of light.

Do you want absolute proof that this is mars?
http://www.astro.su.se/~magnusg/SIRCA

THESE ARE THE SAME EXACT THERMAL IMAGES OF MARS THAT ARE IN THE INFESTATION PICTURE.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/UPDATEDDIAG RAM.jpg

KEEP IN MIND, THESE ARE FROM A TRUSTED GERMAN OBSERVATION SITE.
THESE ARE THE EXACT IMAGES.
BUNGIE WANTED US TO KNOW IT WAS MARS.
BECAUSE HALO RELAPSES INTO MARATHON!!!!!!!!



Some people think that MB sent master chief back into time, This is NOT possible, Why? In the last cutscene, Lord hood says " Its hard to believe he's dead ".
If MC would have in fact been sent back in time by Mendicant Bias, I am fairly sure that Master chief would have stopped the flood earlier, Which would mean that lord hood and arbiter would not have even been involved in an alliance.


The next game that bungie puts out will take place in this universe, They ended the story ark with the flood, And now they will make a game that involves the marathon story ark.

Another thing, Cortana and chief do not know that they are in an alternate universe, They think that somebody will find them. But think about this, Being since the arbiter escaped through the portal completely, He must be in the same exact place as the chief, BUT IN THE HALO UNIVERSE. WHICH IS WHY EVERYONE BELIEVES THE MASTER CHIEF IS DEAD. THEY BELIEVE THAT HIS SIDE OF THE SHIP WAS DESTROYED, BUT IN FACT IT IS IN THE MARATHON UNIVERSE.

This has renewed my faith in bungie writers, Well played.

And to people that say this theory isnt possible because of the different universe thing, in the game Marathon Infinity, the main character can travel between universes and dimensions.

Trogdor404 said it best: ( I did not quote because one of my older threads got locked for quoting too many people )

1. Marathon takes place on a ship called marathon, but the ship is actually a hollowed out moon of Mars
^^^^^^^^^^^
I never put that in bold, wtf?
2. The Iris and the Mars photos are exact, meaning Bungie meant for Mars to be somewhere in the game, and look at the iris pictures, everything lines up with the legendary pictures.

Also more supporting evidence:
Posted by: cornage
Okay, To get this thread started, this is another one of those "Post your theories" threads, but I think this one goes deep. I wondered about IRIS and what it meant after Halo 3, so I watched the server videos, got most of the IRIS info. to be "as stocked up on my halo 3 ending skills" as possible... but I still didn't get it... I was stumped. I decided to go through the last server video one more time, because I thought it was the most revealing of them all. IT WAS. I was watching the last video, but slowing it down a couple of notches... I think I found some serious reference to the future of the series. Marathon is the answer. Now Don't leave, I know how many of you hate the idea of "The Marathon theory" and how bungie would never do that... but this info. seems to push it with bungie and their "marathon references" for fans. I Don't even like the idea that much, but this has me teetering on the fence about the future of the series:

As I was watching the last server video from the IRIS (ARG) and these are extremely fast frames, but I think that I caught a picture of a Phfor enforcer and a Compiler (Marathon 2). I'm serious, it changing my whole outlook on the future of the series, and I suggest you all review those videos of IRIS.

When viewing, the MARATHON CONCEPT ART is on left, while the IRIS PHOTO is on the right.

Compiler: Click Here

And the Enforcer:Click Here

The compiler is slightly viewed from and angle, looks as if it is sitting on a throne, and the enforcer is getting disentigrated from his right, facing us.

The enforcer photo may have something to do with the Forerunner/ Flood war, as it is right after the frame where " but If we fail (if the forerunner fail to save the earth)". Post what you think.







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Posted by: JulzMeister
Just one question. What compells you to right this billion word thread on a fictional character?


Ah, JulzMeister, please read my other comment where I re-posted his theory, which has no scientific proof, as the Halo Universe is mostly fictional. It's just another Star Trek fan posting his -blam!- fantasies since he's never gonna get laid (even his hand doesn't love him). And I'm gonna get blacklisted, so here we go. This will be fun. SUCK MY BALLS BUNGIE!!!!!!!!!!

  • 09.21.2008 7:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: Riujin Zer0
the marathon theroy is 100% correct
THEROY JEEEENKIIIINNNNNS


ROFL! epic...

  • 09.21.2008 7:07 PM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

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Posted by: M249 SAW
I really hope this theory is wrong for several reasons, the main one being that I never played Marathon and don't plan to. The second being that it would make Halo go form the simple shoot-everything-that-turns-out-to-be-a-bad-guy theme to a really-confusing-and-involving-Marathon-which-no-one-really-c ares-about theme!


Alright, marathon isn't that bad.

Also, if you're ever going to call yourself a guy who really loves bungie, go play marathon. It was amazing for its time, and the story and terminals of the game are still well done

But, if you and numerous others insist on going "DURR HURR MARAWTHOUN IS TOO COMPLEX I PLAYS ONLY HAYLO TRIPLE SINCE IT SO POPULAR WITH MAH FRIENDS DURR", get off bungie.net.

btw, the trilogy is free, for all systems.

  • 09.21.2008 7:18 PM PDT
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If you'll notice, I spelled all my words right, and how is it free when you have to buy software in order to use it? Free to download is different from free to play...

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This is the Marathon Storyline=

2194- War between Icarus and Thermopylae.
2395- Purchase of Deimos from Free holders by UESG
2402- Doors Manual written up
2405- Marathon project begins pre-construction phase
2408- Deimos Conversion begins
2442- Misriah Massacre at food Riot
2465- Martians place munitions on Marathon
2466- Failed Martian Coup, MIDA controls government for
short period.
2472- Launch of Marathon
2773- Marathon arrives at Tau Ceti
2787- Colony established
2794- Marathon attacked

Halo's storyline takes place in 2525 and 2553.

Now take the time period and this is what you get=

2466- Failed Martian Coup, MIDA controls government for
short period.
2472- Launch of Marathon

2525- The UNSC makes first contact with the Covenant at the UNSC colony world Harvest. The First Battle of Harvest takes place. The Covenant destroy the colony without warning or provocation.

2553-The war ends in a UNSC-Covenant Separatists victory.

  • 09.22.2008 5:38 AM PDT
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Weeeeeeeeeeeellllllll. Best Theory! But. One thing. If chief got To the Marathon universe Then couldnt Marathon go into the halo universe. ive never played marathon but i know that without MC Humans are pretty much screwed.BTW. Idea here:If chief went Forward in time.Then Well.... Chief Pretty much may kill What remains of the flood. 7 halos 1 ark 1 onyx = 9 he defeated 2 halos + Ark so 5 halos left so = 5000000000)? Or less Flood. But I bet that When MC Goes to the future he goes Right after the marathon series He "Wakes" Up. Then go kill the flood but when 1 flood halo escapes that means..... All of them wake up.So in truth Marathon and halo series have ended:') Or has it?


































































Sorry but here.MC May ermmm defeat the f lood Which the army has been timed by millions
Maybe Trillions So he may need help. Partnership between marathon hero and Master chief?
So In end Its the Final Fight.Just a Small Theory.

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Posted by: TheDemonLestat
Lmao its funny how people assume right and wrong. Dont be a critic hope hes wrong hope hes right whatever but do not criticize someone with no theory or Real Proof of them being wrong because if it God Forbit it is marathon and not reach(hoping he went into slipspace and ended up at reach) then your gonna feel like a dolt.
Maybe I did go overboard with the stupid one-liner instead of explaining. I just come in here to make fun of morons. Morons include those lemmings that blindly accept the OP without a second thought; especially those who take that blind acceptance to attack mikexvx's quote, when a half-second Google search reveals he is right. I believe people need to actually pause to form a coherent thought before posting "OMG great theroy i bet bungie is laffing at us rite now," but I know that isn't going to happen.

If you go back farther in this thread, you will see that I have plenty of proof. I debunked the Halo=Marathon theory two pages ago using a single page from the Marathon manual. In fact, there is so much proof against Halo leading into Marathon that if even 5% of the OP theory is right I would think a fundamental law of the universe has been broken. And then I'd have much bigger problems than feeling like a dolt, as the fabric of space rips apart or something.


Ok what i meant was not how harsh you were but how needed it was. and to the guys gigher than me. The Majority of reach was glassed Not the whole thing at least not told throught the books dont for get the get out of reach in "The First Strike" they were in a strip 1/4 the worlds surface Not glassed the planet. But I honestly say Onyx would be the logical choice."Ghosts of Onyx" the book say that 3 spartan2s and i believe a spartan 3 and 4 were there too.(Which would explain the whole Multiplayer campain???(i could have sworn i spelled this right...)

Now In case many people do not know why in halo 1 there where as many chiefs as players but in fact, that wasn't how it was. The other spatan was The Master Sniper Linda but she was in cryo stasis due to her condition. But don't forget that Captain Keys DIED in the book (The Flood)= Halo1 book version. So there are many clashes between the book story and the game story. But he can not go into marathon. too many people who have never played marathon let alone know what it is, would be confused. So the average gamer it would not make sense. Therefore the marketing strategy would be down the drain, unless people started to download marathon. But the percentage of people who would buy a game then GET ANOTHER game to Explain the first would say -blam!- Both games.

So 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000001% marathon(exaggeration)

Not Reach, too Much Glassed.

Only thing to make sense is Onyx, If they stick to the story(which would sell more books getting more people in to the story.

Yea and so u all know i am 17 and have a life so if u flame me, you will have some issues coming your way.


now one thing. when u said reach wasnt totally glassed that is true...but that was because there was a Forerunner artifact there that they wanted..but when the spartans escaped they took that artifact with them so there was no reason to keep that part of the planet unglassed. it doesnt say it directly but u can probly assume that after they escaped that they finished glassing it as the Covenant are very tenacious at completely destroying their enemies. but ty for agreeing

this was not meant as an insult in anyway...sad when i have to clarify cuz other ppl will think that it is....but just a theory about reach's fate

  • 09.22.2008 8:57 AM PDT