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Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

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ur dumb as hell, just because a portal closed on the chiefs frigate doesn't mean he'll get thrown into a different universe! Besides, in H3 the Ark is located just outside of our galaxy. You people over-analyze everything, just except two things as fact, the master chief is NOT in another universe and he's never going back to Earth.

  • 10.10.2008 9:24 AM PDT
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Among the community there have been many rumors and speculations about the next Halo game. I think I can shed some light on this. I dont have any ties with Bungie but this information is supported by facts from the Halo Universe. There are 7 games linked to the Universe. Marathon, Marathon 2: Durundal, Marathon Trinity, Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, and the newly announced Halo 3: Recon.

There is alot of alarming evidence that supports a "Halo 4." This information you are about to read has nothing to do with Halo 3: Recon. This information has been gathered and put toghether by an elite group of thinkers.

As we all know Halo 3 ended on a cliff hanger (An unfinished story line). Master Chief and Cortana were last seen in the remains of Forward unto Dawn. The ship was headed toward a metal sphere more commonly known as Onyx or shield World. There are many of these shield worlds in the galaxy but no one truley knows the purpose of these marvels. In the book "Ghosts of Onyx" a few Spartan 3s come across this planet. It was basically Earth. It had many of the same type of flora and wildlife. After Installation 04 was destroyed, Sentinals started comeing out of caves all over Onyx. These machines morphed together to form giant digging machines. These machines undug an entire planet. The Spartans relized that Onyx was not a planet but in fact a space station of sorts. They destroyed the planet in fear that the Covenant would take it from the humans. With many more shield worlds out their this was a small victory.

In Marthon you fight aliens and robots. Marathon takes place in the year 2794. Halo 3 ended in 2553. When you see the Master Chief 's ship drifting towards this planet you can see the stars. I found a hard to find comarison. If you look at the arrival (First non playable Halo 3 mission) and you look at the stars then compare to the stars on the legendary ending of Halo 3 you can see that there is a match. The planet in the Halo 3 legendary ending is Earth. "Like WTF man dis cant be" said a suprised fan. This is how it can be. Traxxus is a company on Earth in charge of robotic operations. Kind of like irobot if you have ever seen that movie. Traxxus manages mail services fire dept, and much more. This is all done robotically. A main AI manages it all. This part is only speculation but I believe that the flood that were sopposedly killed in Africa survived and destryed the human race. Master Chief survived because he wasnt on Earth. With Traxxus all that remains it defended itself against the flood. Traxxus fought off the flood but some flood managed to lave Earth and roam the galaxy without oposition. Thety destroyed what was left of the covenant and wiped out all life in the galaxy. Traxxus had 241 years to build up a military. Thus Marathon takes place. The Pfhor (aliens in Marathon) (this is only speculation) are a more evolved, advanced, and civilized version of the flood. The robots are Traxxus property. Traxxus built over Earth and turned it into a giant industral planet. The Pfhor returned to take out Traxxus. By the time master chief reaches Earth (in the future) Traxxus has renamed itself "Durundal."

Here are some things to fill in the missing links.
How is the Chief stilol alive?
The stasis pod kept him alive for 241 years.
What is Master Chief going to do?
It's simple really, Do what he does best... KICK-A$$!
Will Cortana help the chief?
Most likely.
Why would Traxxus kill the Master Chief?
Before human life died Traxxus served the humans, but with no humans left to protect it turned into a more hostile mode. Therefor the Master Chief is no longer remembered by Traxxus (now called Durundal.)
What about the Ark?
I have my own theory about the Ark. The Ark is a place where the wrings and shield worlds were created. No. I say that the Ark is a large time machine. Think about it. The Forunners were going extinct and they needed to rid of the flood. If they could go back in time they could fix it.
Why is the Ark so large?
The Ark is large because it needed to be able to house enough Forunners to be able to fight. It needed to be able to take alot of troops back in time... basically said.
Is the Master Chief going to win?
If the master Chief can find out what is going on he may be able to use the Ark and go back in time to fix the timeline again.

One last thing, the Marathon Trilogy has references to temporal subjects.

  • 10.10.2008 9:27 PM PDT

"That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die."
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Posted by: Elite_Buddy
In the halo books it says that the AIs only last about 5-20 years and then they die!


you mightt want to pick up that halo book son, cuz it says 7 years max....

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True but Traxxus was an AI that was based off of a collection of AIs. The humans needed Traxxus to rebuild. Therefor they would not let the AI die. They would allow it to expand and with all the servers on Earth to store its information it could expand for well over 500 years.

  • 10.10.2008 9:40 PM PDT
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  • 10.10.2008 10:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: APOLLO609
There are 7 games linked to the Universe. Marathon, Marathon 2: Durundal, Marathon Trinity, Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, and the newly announced Halo 3: Recon.

This information has been gathered and put toghether by an elite group of thinkers...
The middle schoolers from your remedial algebra class who haven't played thirty seconds of the Marathon games and spell worse than a deposed Nigerian prince are not an elite group of thinkers.

  • 10.11.2008 12:16 AM PDT
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as much as you want to believe it, its not true. ok i bet you are wandering how MC survived a halo explosion, HE DID, how? let me explain. first off don't forget the portal was IN earths atmasphere, but how did the arbiter look like he came from space? you see when the portal broke it cut half of the ship in half causing the arbiter to go forward at faster rate with his already fast speed, thus making him orbit around earth in the aptmasphere before gravity pulled him down. next how did he survive, you see HALO wasn't fully complete so when it blew up halo couldn't stabilize the explosion causing an implosion disintegrating HALO and the ARK.

wait, where did the planet come from?

it was probaly behind the ark and we were so intent on destroying the COVENANT even tho ugh they might have picked up on their scanners they didn't have time to check it out with COVENANT warships in the area.

THUS YOU ARE WRONG! but it was a good theory =)

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  • 10.11.2008 7:15 AM PDT
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The ship was headed toward a metal sphere more commonly known as Onyx or shield World.
According to some fan speculation, yes.

There are many of these shield worlds in the galaxy but no one truley knows the purpose of these marvels.
Sure we do. To protect the inhabitants against the firing of the Halo Array.

In the book "Ghosts of Onyx" a few Spartan 3s come across this planet.
If by "came across" you mean brought to, trained, and lived almost their entire lives, sure.

They destroyed the planet in fear that the Covenant would take it from the humans.
No, they really didn't.

Marathon takes place in the year 2794. Halo 3 ended in 2553.
Yes, but in different universes. Why do the Humans have teleporters in the Marathon Universe in the year 2319? If the Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine was developed in 2291, why was Marathon launched in 2472 with a Bussard ramjet?

If you look at the arrival (First non playable Halo 3 mission) and you look at the stars then compare to the stars on the legendary ending of Halo 3 you can see that there is a match.
Right! I loved looking into the sky of Arrival and seeing the large blue nebula overhead.

Traxxus is a company on Earth in charge of robotic operations. Kind of like irobot if you have ever seen that movie. Traxxus manages mail services fire dept, and much more.

Source?

This part is only speculation

So no different from anything else you've written.

With Traxxus all that remains it defended itself against the flood. Traxxus fought off the flood but some flood managed to lave Earth and roam the galaxy without oposition. Thety destroyed what was left of the covenant and wiped out all life in the galaxy. Traxxus had 241 years to build up a military. Thus Marathon takes place.

So where do the Humans in Marathon come from? Wait, don't tell me. I know what it! Are all the BoBs really robots built by Traxus IV? Robert Blake, Strauss, they were machines...

The Pfhor (aliens in Marathon) (this is only speculation) are a more evolved, advanced, and civilized version of the flood.

Have you actually played Marathon?







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  • 10.11.2008 9:58 AM PDT
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Um if I said that um,
Halo and marathon were like.
In parallel universes,
Would you shut up bout a merge, as it is obvious that things have happened in one game but not in another completely changing the timeline.

  • 10.11.2008 8:36 PM PDT
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Also halo 3 was meant to lead into the movie (my guess) but it got cancelled meaning that Bungie now has to come up with halo 4. after all no good game gets left to rot.

And halo recon as stated (numerously over this thread and website) is on the ODST in the wreck of new Mombasa, so no answers there.

And if anyone can come up with a place where the chief could be other than onyx please say as I don’t see a place with a better story line or setup for a sequel

And apart from some big cannon witch fire’s 60000rpm killing everything in front of it. What else does a halo player want, MORE SPARTANS. Onyx has the answer and the means. With Cortana there to hack the system and some more alien A.I.’s (bigger, uglier, and weirder) to take on. Plus cortana probably has only 2 or 3 more years on her after what she’s been through (more book references). And if they go ahead and go for the onyx storyline then you got history to read up on between Dr hasley and her Spartans and the MC and his Spartans

  • 10.11.2008 8:57 PM PDT
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hows he wrong it could totaly happen and i support it

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omg!!!! i have a huge discovorey. The ship marathon is a holowd out moon and was lanched befor the master cheif was born. so, in the book, fall of reach, the first spartens are on a mission to take out the insurectionests president. gues where thy find him. they find him in a holowd owt moon around mars that has been created in to a ship also made befor cheif was born

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people have to support this theroy

  • 10.11.2008 9:19 PM PDT

Great Scott!

Not sure if anyone has said this but to all the people saying HALO AND MARATHON AREN'T IN THE SAME UNIVERSE!!!111!1! Did you ever think about the gap closing and MC was sent to the Marathon universe,ok,Halo and marathon aren't in the same universe but maybe the Marathon universe exists at the same time,Halo 3 ends but in the Marathon universe Halo 3 has already passed and Marathon starts but as Marathon starts all those years have passed in the Halo universe.


Sorry for hurting you head whoever read this,i know it was confusing.

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Not sure if anyone has said this but to all the people saying HALO AND MARATHON AREN'T IN THE SAME UNIVERSE!!!111!1! Did you ever think about the gap closing and MC was sent to the Marathon universe


Yes, I thought about. Then I dismissed the thought as there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that the portal closing would create some sort of inter-universal portal. John probably didn't even enter the portal, so it couldn't have sent him anywhere.

. The ship marathon is a holowd out moon and was lanched befor the master cheif was born. so, in the book, fall of reach, the first spartens are on a mission to take out the insurectionests president. gues where thy find him. they find him in a holowd owt moon around mars that has been created in to a ship also made befor cheif was born.

The rebel asteroid base was not Deimos. It was an asteroid in the Eridanus system.

  • 10.11.2008 10:04 PM PDT
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Pew Pew Pew

Maybe it's Onyx

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I have a hypothesis that has been with me since seeing the legendary ending, Bungie did a great job of literarily killing the MC off. I have this assumption as his last words to Cortana are"Wake me, when you need me." John Spartan is no longer needed given that the Covenant has been destroyed the Halos are now "offline" and the flood has pretty much been eradicated.

I draw this conclusion given the MC's strict observance of orders throughout the novels and games. He is a lower ranked officer so that there is always someone above him to give orders, and since he is now floating through space there is no one to give him orders. I back this by the notion that the Spartans were primarily intended for the insurrections then the UNSC encountered the covenant and MC had a new mission directive. His mission is now over and he is no longer needed.

I believe that Bungie could not actually kill MC without the entire community base rioting over his demise, and if my hypothesis is correct (really hoping its not) we will not be seeing much of the master chief again.

I apologize if anyone else has brought up this idea, 125 pages of posts is quite a bit of catching up to do.

Let me know what you think.

  • 10.11.2008 11:59 PM PDT
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omg!!!! i have a huge discovorey. The ship marathon is a holowd out moon and was lanched befor the master cheif was born. so, in the book, fall of reach, the first spartens are on a mission to take out the insurectionests president. gues where thy find him. they find him in a holowd owt moon around mars that has been created in to a ship also made befor cheif was born
Even if Halo universe = Marathon universe, which has been proven time and time again not to be the case, the Marathon left 39 years before the Master Chief was born. Just like the last 20 people who made a "huge discovorey," you haven't.


Posted by: Punisher13
Not sure if anyone has said this but to all the people saying HALO AND MARATHON AREN'T IN THE SAME UNIVERSE!!!111!1! Did you ever think about the gap closing and MC was sent to the Marathon universe,ok,Halo and marathon aren't in the same universe but maybe the Marathon universe exists at the same time,Halo 3 ends but in the Marathon universe Halo 3 has already passed and Marathon starts but as Marathon starts all those years have passed in the Halo universe.


Sorry for hurting you head whoever read this,i know it was confusing.
Yes, we have. You're post is an almost word-for-word duplicate of a dozen others in this thread. Unlike most of the rest of you, we actually know or choose to research the subject before blindly agreeing to whatever theory comes along, or bashing its detractors for that matter. The Marathon security officer and the Master Chief have completely different personal backgrounds. They cannot be the same person. He's not in the Marathon universe. None of you have produced a shred of evidence that the Master Chief's half of the ship entered the portal in the first place. Nor has dropping suddenly out of Slipspace ever sent anyone to another universe*, meaning if they were inside the portal—and I have many reasons that I've covered already to believe they weren't—they would have simply been dropped back to real space.

*Disclaimer time: except under extreme circumstances like Spartan 458 and that A.I. from ilovebees, both of which are time travel and not inter-universe travel, and of questionable canonicity. Outrunning the shockwave of an exploding installation is completely different than fiddling with a Forerunner artifact while inside Slipspace and getting yourself sent back to 2004.


Posted by: D Rockage
Let me know what you think.
I think you're spot-on. The ending was a good way to end the story, while placing a hook for another sequel if they chose to continue.

  • 10.12.2008 10:09 AM PDT
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ok im not a genius but this is what i got out of your theory. and i never played marathon so i have no idea what that is about.

so you are saying master chief's half of the ship was left in a parallel universe. and it exited slipspace in the same location as arbiter's half, but just in a parallel universe. right?

  • 10.12.2008 12:43 PM PDT

Let's put it this way: Aside from Halo Wars and Halo 3 Recon, the Master Chief will resurface in a Bungie videogame, whether it be another Halo game or a Marathon remake.

Of course, this could be a very long time (like as long as 2015...when Marty Mcfly will exist and cars will fly)

  • 10.14.2008 8:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: D Rockage
I have a hypothesis that has been with me since seeing the legendary ending, Bungie did a great job of literarily killing the MC off. I have this assumption as his last words to Cortana are"Wake me, when you need me." John Spartan is no longer needed given that the Covenant has been destroyed the Halos are now "offline" and the flood has pretty much been eradicated.

I draw this conclusion given the MC's strict observance of orders throughout the novels and games. He is a lower ranked officer so that there is always someone above him to give orders, and since he is now floating through space there is no one to give him orders. I back this by the notion that the Spartans were primarily intended for the insurrections then the UNSC encountered the covenant and MC had a new mission directive. His mission is now over and he is no longer needed.

I believe that Bungie could not actually kill MC without the entire community base rioting over his demise, and if my hypothesis is correct (really hoping its not) we will not be seeing much of the master chief again.

I apologize if anyone else has brought up this idea, 125 pages of posts is quite a bit of catching up to do.

Let me know what you think.



alright um yea thats actually the best theory in this forum
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1. MC Was needed and now no more.
2. Everyone would freak if MC died.
3. Dont forget about the stories of other people in the halo universe.
4.My thoerys wrong(much earlier i had the marathon timeline wrong)
5.Dude your awesome and it Sounds so much like Bungie and Microsoft

  • 10.14.2008 8:47 AM PDT

UNSC Doolittle "nil volentibus arduum"- Nothing is Impossible for the Willing.

Well not so much about having troops, but I think the Ark needed to be big in order to create the installations seen in the Halo 3 Campaign when Installation 00 created 04

  • 10.14.2008 2:37 PM PDT

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this guy is frikin smart. never woulda thought of that. of course i dont even know the story of marathon but im definitely gonna get it now.

  • 10.14.2008 3:48 PM PDT

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wow you researched a lot

  • 10.14.2008 4:34 PM PDT