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Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.
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Posted by: kovert ops
I don't understand why the theory at the beginning of this thread is so needlessly complex.

Why must there be a seperate universe?

MC and Cortana could have basically just ended up a million light years away. Bungie has already stated long ago that MC was intended to be the same character from the Marathon series.. Only Marathon takes place hundreds of years later. Same universe, different time. And since MC goes into Cryo/Stasis sleep "Wake me when you need me", it could just be he sleeps for 250-500 years... Not that complicated, and more likely.


Wrong. They have stated he is in essence the same character but in a different story. No direct relation, only in means of design. DIFFERENT UNIVERSE.

  • 10.22.2007 3:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: kovert ops
I don't understand why the theory at the beginning of this thread is so needlessly complex.

Why must there be a seperate universe?

MC and Cortana could have basically just ended up a million light years away. Bungie has already stated long ago that MC was intended to be the same character from the Marathon series.. Only Marathon takes place hundreds of years later. Same universe, different time. And since MC goes into Cryo/Stasis sleep "Wake me when you need me", it could just be he sleeps for 250-500 years... Not that complicated, and more likely.

It's because Bungie has stated numerous times that the Halo and Marathon Universes are NOT the same ones. So that's why his theory shows universe crossing, which if true, makes total sense. And the fact that MC was in Cryostasis sleep, makes the theory even more plausible, he may wake up several hundred years later and the new story will begin. I love it. I just hope we don't have to wait for 3 or 4 years to find out...

  • 10.22.2007 3:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: mikexvx
nice try, but you are wrong.
Yes, because we all know that you really know what it is. /sarcasm

That is the most kickass theory EVER. I believe you. (Hehehehe... I said believe.)

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Btw... this is the greatest topic anyone has ever posted. No one -blam!-ing about anything or complaining about Halo 3's flaws. Just someone posting a completely plausible theory with tangible evidence. It is good times in this topic. I love you all.

  • 10.22.2007 3:49 PM PDT
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Really good Hypothesis but...unfortunatly ur incorrect..sorry : )

  • 10.22.2007 3:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: cibinf
If you had 100% proof, it would be a Fact, not a theory.

The only real problem I have with your theory is that you seem to be proving that the Thermal image is mars, not that the planet in the final cutscene is mars. All your evidence rests on the thermal, not what we see in the cutscene.


Exactly my thoughts. It prooves nothing in my eyes, you just spin the connection between this pic and the Halo 3 ending.

btw: Anyone got a picture of the legendrary ending cutsceen?

  • 10.22.2007 4:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: NickysGamertag
Really good Hypothesis but...unfortunatly ur incorrect..sorry : )


You dont know he is incorrect so shut up. You didn't even give us proof in why his theory is wrong so be quite.

  • 10.22.2007 4:02 PM PDT

Provehito in Altum

All his theory proves is that SOMTHING happens on Mars, NOT that Mr.MC is GOING to Mars...BUT its still a good theory...

  • 10.22.2007 4:25 PM PDT

Posted by: Epzilon
All his theory proves is that SOMTHING happens on Mars, NOT that Mr.MC is GOING to Mars...BUT its still a good theory...


ty =]

  • 10.22.2007 4:30 PM PDT

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Good Job on the theory phear

  • 10.22.2007 4:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: cibinf
If you had 100% proof, it would be a Fact, not a theory.

The only real problem I have with your theory is that you seem to be proving that the Thermal image is mars, not that the planet in the final cutscene is mars. All your evidence rests on the thermal, not what we see in the cutscene.


Exactly my thoughts. It prooves nothing in my eyes, you just spin the connection between this pic and the Halo 3 ending.

btw: Anyone got a picture of the legendrary ending cutsceen?


I don't understand what you're saying... it was already established that the picture was Mars, assuming the website it was found on is credible. He's saying that the planet Mars is significant in the Halo world (somewhere) because it was included in the ARG. Granted, it may not be in this instance, but this is just something the evidence points to.

  • 10.22.2007 4:43 PM PDT
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something strange just felw into my minde...(a question)

universe 1:
Lets call this the universe where halo takes place. We all know that it takes place on earth and the ark. Lets just look at earth, because earth is in this universe.... so logicaly, mars is in it aswel -as it hasnt been dragged away"?"-

universe 2:
The different universe... where marathon takes place. Stated by blizz that it takes place in a different universe. Now what troubles me is, (as i only read comments) that the marathon(the ship) is made out of a moon of mars. But doesnt that mean it takes place in the same universe? I mean if they makes a ship out of a moon of mars, while we know mars is near earth (like in halo3) --> means it takes place in the same universe after all? *pain to my head* :P

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I had a feeling it led to Marathon but had no proof, finally! Good theory :)

  • 10.22.2007 4:58 PM PDT

Halo is the best game since Grifball!

It is still possible for the MC to have been sent back in time. The explanation is kind of confusing, so bear with me:

There are two theories for how time works. One says that events are static: that everything is destined and nothing we do can change it. Anything we do if we go back in time does not alter the timeline, because the timeline has already taken that into account. A good example of this is in the Red vs. Blue episode where Church goes back in time to fix everything, but he just ends up causing everything that happens. So, if the MC went back in time and stopped the Flood, then the Flood would have returned in time for the events in Halo to happen. The Flood have returned before, after the Forerunners activated the rings.

The second theory says that events are dynamic, that we can choose our own fate. In this theory, you are right. If the MC had gone back in time and stopped the Flood, then Halo 1,2, and 3 would not have happened, probably.

Depending on what theory Bungie subscribes to, he may or may not have gone back in time.

  • 10.22.2007 4:59 PM PDT

Provehito in Altum

ty???

  • 10.22.2007 4:59 PM PDT

Provehito in Altum

YES!!!! It connects Halo1 to Halo3!! MY THEORY!!! He went back intime when the slipspace porthole collapsed! And thats why in Halo1 343GS said he had seen him before! ...My theory is more complicated BUT thats the jist!

  • 10.22.2007 5:01 PM PDT

Posted by: Terian1414
I'll support your theory with one fact. It was mathematically proven that there is the potential for at least 6 other dimensions to exsist. Although explaining this to a bunch of kids who are Halo fans would confuse the crap out of them and could, potentially be bad for business and a lot of people overlook that. What will make bungie the most money?


Indeed, although the multiple dimensions theory mathematics works with 10 dimensions, and I believe 26 as well. The 10 dimension theory deals with superstring theory and M-Theory. Neither of which I plan to go into great detail about. But, according to Everett's Many Worlds theory, all of the realities(multiverses) exist simultaneously, but are completely separate. Now, in quantum physics, particles aren't particles at the subatomic level, they are waves of probability. Upon observation, these waves of probability are collapsed into one specific state. This is how the infinite amount of alternate universes can exist; as waves of probability that are not collapsed by the act of observation. So, while the multiverse theory could be correct(just to the fact that a game doesn't have to abide by the laws of quantum physics), I personally wouldn't put my money on it. Besides, while traveling through slipspace, space is just condensed and can be traveled over much more quickly. It would basically be like traveling in the third dimension while existing in the second. It's just like you exist on a "piece of paper" and that "paper" is folded so you can reach the other side of it, without traversing the entire paper. So, the likeliness of chief being in another universe, is sadly, even more unlikely(at least in my opinion).

And, I do like the whole mars thing, and how it relates to IRIS, and everything.

Posted by:P1usstality
something strange just felw into my minde...(a question)

universe 1:
Lets call this the universe where halo takes place. We all know that it takes place on earth and the ark. Lets just look at earth, because earth is in this universe.... so logicaly, mars is in it aswel -as it hasnt been dragged away"?"-

universe 2:
The different universe... where marathon takes place. Stated by blizz that it takes place in a different universe. Now what troubles me is, (as i only read comments) that the marathon(the ship) is made out of a moon of mars. But doesnt that mean it takes place in the same universe? I mean if they makes a ship out of a moon of mars, while we know mars is near earth (like in halo3) --> means it takes place in the same universe after all? *pain to my head* :P


Yes, if we accept this multiverse theory, then while in one universe everything is like it is now(or rather 2552, whatever), and in the other universe it could basically be the same, however different. So, the mars in the "Marathon" universe, would be mars, but not "our" mars. You see?

  • 10.22.2007 5:02 PM PDT

Posted by: mikexvx
nice try, but you are wrong.

I hope you are just joking around, but if you aren't, you are retarded. The OP is right. My friend told me this once we beat the Legendary campaign, and I have been saying this ever since.

Great post! I love the links to IRIS and Mars. Well done!

  • 10.22.2007 5:04 PM PDT
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My god. YOUR ON TO SOMETHING!

THESE FORUMS MADE PROGRESS!!

*hands phear a cookie

  • 10.22.2007 5:05 PM PDT

i've seen other (and more clearer) pictures of mars on different iris episodes, so theres more proof to support your theory

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  • 10.22.2007 5:10 PM PDT

Provehito in Altum

Blasphemy, M-theory is flauded! Multi-Universes could exist, but not side-by-side maybe "between" each other, "under" each other...if there are other universes that are side-by-side they would righfilly be totaly diffrent form one another. And, on another note, the whole "One universe chrashing into another" creating our Universe is flauded BEYOND BELIEF!! Where did those two or so universes come from then??

  • 10.22.2007 5:16 PM PDT

Provehito in Altum

Yes progress, but it is still flauded.
Like before, it only proves that SOMETHING happens, or happened, on Mars...Not that the Chief is going there...

  • 10.22.2007 5:17 PM PDT
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Theory with proof. I like.

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Yes, if we accept this multiverse theory, then while in one universe everything is like it is now(or rather 2552, whatever), and in the other universe it could basically be the same, however different. So, the mars in the "Marathon" universe, would be mars, but not "our" mars. You see?


Thanks for the answer. And i saw that episode on discorvery or national geo aswel :)

[Edited on 10.22.2007 5:26 PM PDT]

  • 10.22.2007 5:24 PM PDT

wow i need to play marathon, is it for windows xp or only mac/360 arcade?

  • 10.22.2007 5:24 PM PDT