Halo 3 Forum
This topic has moved here: Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.
  • Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

It's cherry, tastes like strawberry, looks like watermelon, and you think it's raspberry just because.

Please don't call me stupid, I just don't get this at all. I have several questions to ask. First of all, what would be the point of linking the two storylines? This would cause massive problems with the two game's storylines. How would Master Chief have been teleported to an alternate universe, all he did was go into Slipspace, and have the portal close on him while he was still in Slipspace. And why would Marathon be in a different universe, they take place in the same universe, it's just that Marathon took place, once again, 200 years in the future. Also, what does the COM box have to do with anything? So they look the same, so what?

In response to the whole mars thing, wtf? Why would mars have all the Forerunner symbols on it. Mars is really close to Earth, and since they already knew about Forerunners and all that, they would have already recognized them before 200 years was up. Also, if Mars was colonized, wouldn't they have seen the ship from some orbital defence grid or something? And why would the star by Mars be blue?

Marathon takes place outside of our solar system, right? So why would Master Chief be floating past Mars if they were trying to link the two storylines?

Also, MIKEFLOUNDERS's post made almost no sense at all. 50,000x2.5 does not equal 150,000, but 125,000. And where does he get all of the measurements from of how far the SMC is from our galaxy, and how far Master Chief is from the SMC?

I have a theory on where Master Chief is, and it is as follows: According to Joseph Staten in an interview by IGN, seen here, Master Chief is stuck in Slipspace. If you remember, in the end of Ghosts of Onyx, not only did the planet aslpode, but the remaining Spartan IIs and IIIs, along with Dr. Halsey, went through the portal near to the core of Onyx to the Dyson Sphere located in the Slipspace bubble of compressed dimensionality located in the center of Onyx (before Onyx exploded, of course, all of which the Dyson Sphere felt none of, since it's in Slipspace). I believe that Master Chief has been floating through Slipspace (not for too long, because then all the Spartans and Dr. Halsey would have died of old age), and is now floating by the Dyson Sphere. What that interstellar cloud is, I can't explain. Perhaps it is just an interstellar cloud that somehow got into Slipspace. Maybe I'm wrong, and Master Chief isn't in Slipspace, and the Spartans and Dr. Halsey got the Dyson Sphere out of Slipspace like they were trying to do in the end of the book. Or, maybe I'm completely wrong, and Master Chief has been drifting in space for 200 years, and is being tied in with the Marathon storyline. I sure hope not, but whatever.

If there is anything wrong with my questions (which I'm sure there is), or with my theory, then please tell me!

  • 08.13.2009 7:52 PM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

It's cherry, tastes like strawberry, looks like watermelon, and you think it's raspberry just because.

Posted by: TubbierPainter
then wats rite if this rong? cuz this rite

Could you please elaborate on why this is right and I am wrong...and spell correctly (jk)?

[Edited on 08.13.2009 8:44 PM PDT]

  • 08.13.2009 8:43 PM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

You not only deserve a cokkie but a whole blaming truckload of cookies and your own cookie factory that threory just blew my mind and it seems pretty plausible.

  • 08.13.2009 11:16 PM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

Posted by: phearmaker
It seems to me, That the next game bungie puts out will be before marathon, Or continue marathon somehow.


It seems that some people are not understanding why you see a nebula in the legendary ending.
MIKEFLOUNDERS said it best.
Posted by: MIKEFLOUNDERS
Small Magellanic Cloud is 200,000 light years away from our galaxy ,our galaxy is 100,000 light years across so the radius is 50,000 light years so 2.5 galactic radius would be 150,000 light years to where chief is and 50.000 light years the the small magellanic cloud in the back ground so he is prity much still in our universe and in marathon you tack off from earth in the marathon as a secruity guard....


Halo 3 takes place 200 YEARS before marathon, When master chief's part of the ship slips into the marathon universe, It is still the same exact year he was just in. He floats in space for 200 years until you see the colonized mars appear, And then get eclipsed by the sun eclipsing luna in the background.
This
Is
Not
A
Time
Travel
Theory.





200 years floating on a ship does not equal 200 years Earth time or Mars time for that matter. According to Einstein's Theory of Relativity time is affected by mass and velocity. So the Master Chief could be on his ship for 200 years and step off it to find that thousands of years have passed on Earth.

Unrelated, but this also disproves travel past the speed of light or Slipspace. If a ship enters slipspace and travels a round trip of two light years, one light year away and one light year back, (lets assume that the ship maintains a constant velocity for the whole trip for simplicity's sake) when the ship returned to Earth they would find it was tens of thousands of years later. it is generally accepted by scientists that travel past the speed of light is physically impossible. Einstein's famous equaton e=mc^2 relates mass to energy and shows that travel at the speed of light isn't possible because it would take infinite an infinite amount of energy to exceed the speed of light.

You can't apply real world science to science FICTION

  • 08.13.2009 11:38 PM PDT

It's cherry, tastes like strawberry, looks like watermelon, and you think it's raspberry just because.

Posted by: MonkeyHouse
Posted by: phearmaker
It seems to me, That the next game bungie puts out will be before marathon, Or continue marathon somehow.


It seems that some people are not understanding why you see a nebula in the legendary ending.
MIKEFLOUNDERS said it best.
Posted by: MIKEFLOUNDERS
Small Magellanic Cloud is 200,000 light years away from our galaxy ,our galaxy is 100,000 light years across so the radius is 50,000 light years so 2.5 galactic radius would be 150,000 light years to where chief is and 50.000 light years the the small magellanic cloud in the back ground so he is prity much still in our universe and in marathon you tack off from earth in the marathon as a secruity guard....


Halo 3 takes place 200 YEARS before marathon, When master chief's part of the ship slips into the marathon universe, It is still the same exact year he was just in. He floats in space for 200 years until you see the colonized mars appear, And then get eclipsed by the sun eclipsing luna in the background.
This
Is
Not
A
Time
Travel
Theory.





200 years floating on a ship does not equal 200 years Earth time or Mars time for that matter. According to Einstein's Theory of Relativity time is affected by mass and velocity. So the Master Chief could be on his ship for 200 years and step off it to find that thousands of years have passed on Earth.

Unrelated, but this also disproves travel past the speed of light or Slipspace. If a ship enters slipspace and travels a round trip of two light years, one light year away and one light year back, (lets assume that the ship maintains a constant velocity for the whole trip for simplicity's sake) when the ship returned to Earth they would find it was tens of thousands of years later. it is generally accepted by scientists that travel past the speed of light is physically impossible. Einstein's famous equaton e=mc^2 relates mass to energy and shows that travel at the speed of light isn't possible because it would take infinite an infinite amount of energy to exceed the speed of light.

You can't apply real world science to science FICTION

Actually, only two years would have passed, since they are travelling at the speed of light. You were saying that they were travelling at the speed of light, right? Also, I do agree that you can't apply real world science to science fiction, at least in most cases. Halo, for instance.

  • 08.14.2009 12:26 AM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

/And To Those Who Belive| You WIll Tread The Lightened Path/ As Did Those Before Even Us|\

/There are great connections and similarities with the ending of Halo and the beginning of Marathon. Before you mention time travel or alternate universe remember what the cheif tells Cortana on the Mythic ending

"Wake me... when you need me"

It's possible that the MC was in cryosleep for around 200 years before Cortana wakes him.

In Marathon you come to on an unusual planet. You're a cyborg security officer. And many characters from Marathon (The Pfhor) resemble those of the covenant. many are bipedal species that are taller than humans (Elites, brutes, Hunters, Prophets) who are bent on controlling the galaxy.

However Bungie have denied that the two games are connected at all. They just tend to recycle components from past games. In this sense Halo series is simply a more modern gaming experience.
However this is Bungie. It wouldn't surprise me if all this was planned just so people like me would ramble on and cause more confusion all Bungie's entertainment lol.

More info when ODST and Reach enters stores.......\

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  • 08.14.2009 3:09 PM PDT

It's cherry, tastes like strawberry, looks like watermelon, and you think it's raspberry just because.

But, if the Covenant was broken apart, then why would they attack Marathon? I'm gonna have to go with Bungie on this one.

  • 08.14.2009 8:02 PM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

[Small Magellanic Cloud is 200,000 light years away from our galaxy ,our galaxy is 100,000 light years across so the radius is 50,000 light years so 2.5 galactic radius would be 150,000 light years to where chief is and 50.000 light years the the small magellanic cloud in the back ground ]




Wow, really?

  • 08.15.2009 12:09 PM PDT

It's cherry, tastes like strawberry, looks like watermelon, and you think it's raspberry just because.

I know lol.

  • 08.15.2009 12:52 PM PDT

wait i thought the halo universe and marathon universe were one in the same

  • 08.15.2009 4:18 PM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

wait but on the back of the CD is says that the Ark is in Africa which is in our universe so doesnt that mean that he never went into another universe?

  • 08.16.2009 7:14 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

i think the chief is not in another universe, but an alternate space, much like the micro dyson sphere Blue Team find themselves in at the end of Ghosts of Onyx. this is more plausible because their end of the ship comes out of slipspace which is what the marathon universe is contained in. or... going further into a guess theory... what if there are infinite universes, all connected by slipspace which you can travel through universe to universe. The chief may have come across this by accident. this may show that the Forerunner created their own, mini universe in the planet onyx. seeing as though they understood slipspace more than us, is it just a coincidence that the slipspace passage to the marathon verse was located near to Halo? I think not. maybe the Forerunner knew of this and built them in coordinance in case the shield world could be reached after activating the rings. they would appear in an alternate universe and try to return after time. maybe this is all part of an elaborate plan set by the Forerunner, maybe their more advance, trans-sentient predessecors the Precursors, or even another race from another universe who have travelled and colonised the different universes.

or maybe i'm just wrong...

  • 08.18.2009 11:05 AM PDT

No signature found. Click here to change this.

Posted by: BLACKfrost3788
wait but on the back of the CD is says that the Ark is in Africa which is in our universe so doesnt that mean that he never went into another universe?
The portal to the ark is in africa. If you play on the level "The Ark", one of the first dialouge in the game is a marine saying "Hey! Look there! Up in the sky!". He is referring to the galaxy, which is in fact The Milky Way.

  • 08.18.2009 11:10 AM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

Welcome to the Thunder Dome Ladies, Rremember to turn out the Lights when you leave.

he's still probably one of many spartans left alive still and i figured something do you all remember that one halo ad that we all thought was a movie that was actually an ad for reach atleast i think.

  • 08.18.2009 11:29 AM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

Winter Contingency - Where Eggs are men and AMD sponsors people
-----------------------------------------
Good job doing old stuff, Lets focus on New stuff!

Hmmm... Looks like either the Drakk homeworld or Na Koja Abad. Hmm.. Migh the MC have been transported to the Unreal 2 universe??

  • 08.18.2009 2:41 PM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

just wat i thought happned nice research and the arbiter and chief geting separated was good thats wat thought .

  • 08.19.2009 8:40 AM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

As far as we know there is just a planet near the ark, and MC was unaffected by the portal cause he didn't make it through. The Forerunners made Onyx the shield world and multiple rings, so why not multiple shields? or it could just be a planet out there, unlikely. but the forerunners may have wanted to be extra safe out of the rings' range, just in case.
Maybe MC went into the future, in the HALO universe (who's to say he left that one), and hes floating partway between the ark and earth. maybe it is mars, in the halo universe, placed way in the future either way, so maybe when they made it to mars they did something to the moons... whatever.

  • 08.19.2009 10:29 AM PDT

Posted by: JCTehPro
i think the chief is not in another universe, but an alternate space, much like the micro dyson sphere Blue Team find themselves in at the end of Ghosts of Onyx.


Except that in Onyx it wasn't a microdyson sphere, they were actually in side of the planet, like near the end of Halo Wars, they fly into the unnamed planet. Also in halo wars they reference the teleport pad system used in Onyx, the doctor uses it to get back to the surface after being taken by the arbiter. Yet I am not sure how much about the halo universe the ensemble guys knew... so... this may be irrelevant, like this massive hundred something page forum about a fictitios characters location after the game, if another game comes out, thjats when we will find out where he went, otherwise, it doesnt really affect anyones lives... except the guys at Bungie... who make so much money off this stuff. Good Job Guys.

  • 08.19.2009 10:36 AM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

They don't think it be like it is...


But it do.

That dude makes lots of sense NO JOKE

  • 08.20.2009 3:36 PM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Looking at the "planet" he landed on he could of landed on the almighty Deathstar....Think about it.

  • 08.21.2009 2:02 PM PDT

Where in the WORLD is master chief?

No where. He's not on Earth, or the World. he's in Space.

  • 08.21.2009 2:17 PM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

I'm a 15 year old stuck in the middle of nowhere. Machinima director, screenplay writer, novelist, jazz musician, and Photoshop junkie.

Damn....

  • 08.21.2009 4:18 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

What about Matt Lawer!?!?!? Hahah J/k. Very plausible thread.

  • 08.21.2009 4:21 PM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

he is on a ship floatin in space... coz at the the off HALO 3 if you complete the final level on LEGENDARY you get to see secret cutsceen..... and i hop BUNGIE make a HALO 4 to continue the HALO story coz i gotta tell you im very impressed..... i got HALO C:E on the 1st day it came out and i have loved HALO ever since.....

  • 08.21.2009 4:30 PM PDT