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Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

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Posted by: barttehnoobhuntr
okay everyone. i am a total and complete fan of halo. i know a -blam!-load of halo stuff. now. be prepared to say whatever bull you want.

onyx, according to the terminals in h3, was NOT the only shield world! in fact, the planet in the middle of the ark is a shield world. master chief probably ended up in orbit around a random forerunner world. the thing that bugs me though is the fact that there were lights dotting the planet's surface, as seen in the legendary ending of halo 3. also, if you've seen images of earth at night, you see-guess what- lights dotting the surface of the planet. to me, that suggests a superior species. also, you see the marathon symbol on the planet's surface. that suggests the forerunners are still alive. also what bugs me is that the covenant said the forerunners were extinct. that suggests the forerunners were capable of inter-galactic travel.


thus i end this response.......


Three glaring mistakes:

The planetoid in the center of the Ark is actually a planet that is being stripmined for resources by the sentinels. This has been confirmed before.

How does anything you said suggest the forerunners were capable of intergalactic travel?

The covenant believed the Forerunner became gods, not that they were extinct.

Carry on.

[Edited on 09.02.2009 11:58 AM PDT]

  • 09.02.2009 11:58 AM PDT

GT: tehkingofstupid

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1. i made a mistake. i meant 343 guilty spark,not the covenant.

2. the forerunners went extinct in the milky way. kinda see were this is goin? i think the forerunners went to the most nearby galaxy to ours. that one would be the Andromeda galaxy or
one of the two Clouds of Magellean, both of which are in the local group.

3. the forerunners were advanced enough.


4. if you ever looked at the "planetoid" in the center, you see several things that deter your theory. if you look closely at the planet, you see layers of metal and various other technological
stuff (i don't really know what to call it right now) around a softly glowing core. true, there is a crust on the outer shell. i just found out... the ark doesn't just build halos, but shield worlds as well.


i have proven my theory.
please continue to mark my mistakes, if you can.


"Thus I Refute Thee..."




end of strand.

[Edited on 09.02.2009 4:47 PM PDT]

  • 09.02.2009 3:43 PM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.
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Posted by: mikexvx
nice try, but you are wrong.
you my good sir, fail. i think this theroy is totally plausible and i beleive that it is true. NICE JOB OP

  • 09.02.2009 3:44 PM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

When the dust settles, you will learn what true terror is.

Posted by: barttehnoobhuntr
1. i made a mistake. i meant 343 guilty spark,not the covenant.

2. the forerunners went extinct in the milky way. kinda see were this is goin? i think the forerunners went to the most nearby galaxy to ours. that one would be the Andromeda galaxy or
one of the two Clouds of Magellean, both of which are in the local group.

3. the forerunners were advanced enough.


4. if you ever looked at the "planetoid" in the center, you see several things that deter your theory. if you look closely at the planet, you see layers of metal and various other technological
stuff (i don't really know what to call it right now) around a softly glowing core. true, there is a crust on the outer shell. i just found out... the ark doesn't just build halos, but shield worlds as well.


i have proven my theory.
please continue to mark my mistakes, if you can.


"Thus I Refute Thee..."




end of strand.


Such arrogance...

You have provided no evidence of either of your two new claims, so I am disinclined to believe your argument that they were "advanced enough" for trans-galactic travel. If this were the case, then why would they not have simply cut their losses and run to another galaxy when the Flood were overwhelming them? Also, it's not a theory, but was CONFIRMED that the planetoid was being strip-mined. I believe it was in an interview with a Bungie employee, but I may be mistaken. I do know that it has been confirmed, but I don't have the source handy.

Also, if YOU look more closely you will see that the planetoid has deep canyons with regularly-spaced "steps" like on the side of a ziggurat. If you've ever seen a commercial dig site the same thing happens.

Further, there's no evidence to either support or debunk your "theory" that the Ark can produce Shield worlds, but even if it could, why would it be? The Halo ring was being created to replace Alpha Halo, but what Shield World was destroyed? Oh and the microdyson sphere in Halo Wars was not a shield world, it was simply a microdyson sphere world used (apparently) as a harbor for ships. If it was a shield world then it would have been inside one of those "slipspace bubbles" that was at the center of Onyx. Plus, if that was what was being replaced, it would have been replaced a looooong time ago as it was destroyed years before the Halo trilogy took place (and the halo trilogy itself spanned about a month or so).

Edit: And when did 343 say the forerunners were extinct? I don't recall that, but even if he DID say it, he only has limited data due to compartmentalization. It's entirely possible that he was programmed with/fed data that was incorrect in order to protect the forerunners should he have been captured by the Flood.

[Edited on 09.02.2009 7:28 PM PDT]

  • 09.02.2009 7:25 PM PDT

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  • 09.02.2009 7:44 PM PDT

GT: tehkingofstupid

Shoot first, then ask ques--actually, just keep shooting.

343 guilty spark, halo 2 , before arbiter kicked tartarus' ass:

"After exhausting every other strategic option, my creators activated the rings. They, and all other sentient life within three radii of the galactic center, died, as planned. would you like to see the releveant data?"

That kinda implies something....


as for the other "facts", why squabble? we are obviously both great minds. why fight?








end of strand.

  • 09.03.2009 3:05 PM PDT

When the dust settles, you will learn what true terror is.

Posted by: barttehnoobhuntr
343 guilty spark, halo 2 , before arbiter kicked tartarus' ass:

"After exhausting every other strategic option, my creators activated the rings. They, and all other sentient life within three radii of the galactic center, died, as planned. would you like to see the releveant data?"

That kinda implies something....

as for the other "facts", why squabble? we are obviously both great minds. why fight?

end of strand.


That only tells us that all sentient life WITHIN THREE RADII of the galactic center died. It does NOT mean that they all went extinct, nor even that the entire galaxy is/was void of them, nor does it mean they went to some other galaxy. All it means is what it says. Some of them survived in shield worlds and/or on the ark or similar installations (if they exist) etc. Chances are they were then able to return to the areas affected by Halo's blast, as that's what happened to all the species they catalogued previously.

I'd also like to bring up, again, that 343's information isn't necessarily accurate due to the compartmentalization protocols.

Oh, and who said we were fighting? I wouldn't classify this as a fight, but more of an argument.

  • 09.03.2009 3:43 PM PDT

GT: tehkingofstupid

Shoot first, then ask ques--actually, just keep shooting.

lets try making a theory together instead of arguing over what happened.

[Edited on 09.03.2009 3:53 PM PDT]

  • 09.03.2009 3:51 PM PDT
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dude how much time did you waste on this post nobody cares the only question everybody wants answered is if there is going to be a halo 4 none of this stupid nerd talk that you probably took days to make and for what for people to laugh at you for how nerdy you sound i hope you feel accomplished because nobody else really cares

  • 09.03.2009 4:02 PM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

When the dust settles, you will learn what true terror is.

Posted by: barttehnoobhuntr
lets try making a theory together instead of arguing over what happened.


When I said it was an argument, I suppose I should have said "debate". Basically, you came in here and stated a few arguments (which would be a claim, usually supported by evidence). I then took those arguments, dissected them, and either disproved or provided counterarguments and evidence that show your original arguments' unlikelihood. This is all very basic logic and reasoning, which you can learn about in any logic/reasoning class (and I highly recommend taking one).

What's more, if we can't come to an agreement on the basis for our theories, then how would we every hope to create a cooperative theory?

Posted by: I Smalls I
dude how much time did you waste on this post nobody cares the only question everybody wants answered is if there is going to be a halo 4 none of this stupid nerd talk that you probably took days to make and for what for people to laugh at you for how nerdy you sound i hope you feel accomplished because nobody else really cares


Wow, taking unnecessarily hostile and immature jabs at somebody's interests for no apparent reason. You must have SO many friends.

Obviously, people DO care, as there are several theories being posted and debated on these forums. Just because you may not be intelligent enough, or have the attention span, to delve into the Halo Universe and get more out of the story than what gets spoonfed to you throughout the games' campaigns (if you even play the campaigns) doesn't give you the right to criticize others for doing so.

How would you like it if somebody came up to you and said your favorite sport, or movie, or game, or whatever it is you enjoy and probably have more information than the average person about is dumb and that you're a nerd for caring about it?

[Edited on 09.03.2009 4:17 PM PDT]

  • 09.03.2009 4:12 PM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

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Posted by: I Smalls I
dude how much time did you waste on this post nobody cares the only question everybody wants answered is if there is going to be a halo 4 none of this stupid nerd talk that you probably took days to make and for what for people to laugh at you for how nerdy you sound i hope you feel accomplished because nobody else really cares


this thread has 149 PAGES worth of posts. obviously some people do care. if you don't, than why are you here? get out.

  • 09.03.2009 4:20 PM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

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  • 09.03.2009 4:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: ugoindown444
that ideas dumb... i would be thoroughly disapointed with bungie if that were true.

and plus masterchief cannot travel between universes..

the time travel theory sounds better then this -_-


the portal collapse caused him to travel through the space time rim, and into the marathon uni.

  • 09.03.2009 4:39 PM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

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  • 09.03.2009 5:31 PM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

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  • 09.04.2009 3:39 AM PDT

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  • 09.05.2009 7:57 PM PDT

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  • 09.05.2009 8:00 PM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

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Even if it was near onyx the ship would be shot down do to the fact that Over nine thousand setinels are hovering around over there destroying everything that comes near it.

  • 09.06.2009 7:15 PM PDT

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  • 09.08.2009 2:11 PM PDT

u think you have bad lag? jesus took 3 days to respawn...

nice u probaly just wasted 4 hours of ur time by collecting info, posts, just to find out where is Master Chief, gud job now, u want a cookie?

  • 09.08.2009 2:17 PM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

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very interesting theory...it actually makes sense...YOU HAVE 2 MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS!!!

  • 09.08.2009 2:22 PM PDT

"Eyes from Death's dream kingdom appear as sunlight on a broken column. There, in Death's other kingdom, walking alone, trembling lips form prayers to broken stone."

I have a theory. Perhaps Truth never really died but he flash clonned himself. Since flash clonning is imperfect, that could explain why his voice changed in Halo 3. He seems to know the true functions of the Halo rings. He knew from the start that the humans were descendants of the Forerunner. So perhaps he cloned himself secretly, and hid in a shield world somewhere.
Perhaps the portal generator on Earth has more of a purpose. It looks like an entrance actually, and Guilty Spark said that he always thought that the Ark was a shield world, and he did seem fairly suprised to find out that the Ark is outside of the Galaxy. Mabye Earth is actually a shield world, and Truth, the real one, is hiding in secret, both to the humans AND the Covenant. He seems to have some evil plan. He knows alot about the forerunner, and the flood. I don't think he's deluded or insane. He knew that the Halo's had no divine purpose.
So anyway, what if Truth stayed in the shield world, and watched as the Covenant fleet, his clone, and the Ark were all destroyed, as part of some evil plan.
And what if the planet that the chief floats by is a shield world. The one where Truth has been hiding. What if the planet is Earth, several years after Halo 3.

I can't show you my proof for this theory. Not yet anyway. At least not on thte forum, as I'd probably get banned if I posted a link. You can feel free to message me and I'll give you links to my proof.

[Edited on 09.08.2009 4:59 PM PDT]

  • 09.08.2009 4:56 PM PDT
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I would like to begin by pointing out that the only connection that you make to the marathon universe is a similarity in the communication devices. Nothing else connects the two universes.

Your comparison of the IRIS images and the marathon art is null due to the fact that they take place in two separate universes. If they are, indeed, the same thing then they must take place in the same universe and therefore halo=marathon. However, Bungie has stated that the Halo universe is NOT the Marathon universe, which you know full well and is why you are arguing that he is in a different universe.

In this same interview (I wish I had the link still saved), Bungie states that the Marathon man is SIMILAR to Master Chief but not the same person. The Marathon man inspired the character of MC but they remain two different persons. Look around for the article as I simply don't have the time to find it but I'm sure after some digging it will come up.

Also, the sun is a blue color in the legendary ending while out sun is red. And last I checked our sun will not be turning blue... now, you could say that since it is a different universe, then it could be a different color. At this point you have disconnected the information and have begun to bend it to fit your ideas. I could then say that in another universe, a planet could just as easily fit this picture somewhere else as yet undiscovered which is just as ludicrous as the sun being a different color. You created the connection between the two points of information, you can't create expectations so that it fits your theory. Similar, yes. Mars in both, no.

As for the time travel. Having been the one who pioneered the time travel theory (look up A Hasty Theory, it dates several years back. Read all of it as I began to forget to update the original post as we developed the theory as a community), I would simply argue that time travel as you view it is incorrect. Two basic views are that you can change the future, or you cause the future. Your view is that he can do something to change the future when, in fact, he may not be able to and may actually cause the future. For example, in Terminator, Kyle Reese causes the future by fathering John Conner, who sends him back in time to begin with (grandfather paradox) or in one of the Harry Potter movies (don't know which one or all the details, the one with the rock and cutting off the birds head... hate HP). Seeing as how we don't know which to be true, writers can use whichever one they want. Bungie could use either here though I believe they would use the second since everyone would be expecting MC to save the day. Also, in my theory I presented evidence to suggest that 343 knew Chief in the past, meaning that he had already gone back and failed to change anything.


In conclusion, radio (most likely an easter egg) does not equal marathon, especially since Bungie says MC and MM are not the same character.

/end thread.

[Edited on 09.09.2009 1:23 AM PDT]

  • 09.09.2009 1:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: Dr Recon
Posted by: barttehnoobhuntr
okay everyone. i am a total and complete fan of halo. i know a -blam!-load of halo stuff. now. be prepared to say whatever bull you want.

onyx, according to the terminals in h3, was NOT the only shield world! in fact, the planet in the middle of the ark is a shield world. master chief probably ended up in orbit around a random forerunner world. the thing that bugs me though is the fact that there were lights dotting the planet's surface, as seen in the legendary ending of halo 3. also, if you've seen images of earth at night, you see-guess what- lights dotting the surface of the planet. to me, that suggests a superior species. also, you see the marathon symbol on the planet's surface. that suggests the forerunners are still alive. also what bugs me is that the covenant said the forerunners were extinct. that suggests the forerunners were capable of inter-galactic travel.


thus i end this response.......
i agree with this guy



I thought I might comment on this as well. I only get on the forums once every few months now because of the same bickering between fools who say "ZOMG I R HAZ PROOF!" when, in fact, these are some of the most unsupported theories I have ever read to the point that I wouldn't call them theories but ramblings of madmen. Now, as to Bart's point. I would like to point out that according to Hasley, the shield world may not be more than a few meters wide in normal space since it is in a state of phase between slipspace and normal space. I don't think the put this in there just because but rather to support the idea that the shield world is, indeed, under onyx and is a few meters wide to those who are viewing it from the outside (and explains how something so massive, a metal ball the size of earth's orbit [earth's distance from the sun x2 gives you the shield worlds diameter, its massive] could remain hidden). Also, do not forget the possibility of planets on the edge of the galactic rim. In the glory days of halo theorists, there was someone who calculated the locations of the halos (roughly) and it left room for a large amount of solar systems on the galactic edge to be spared from destruction. Also, there were forerunners on the Ark at the time which is located outside of the blast range of the Halos. So yes, there are, more likely than not, Forerunner still alive.

  • 09.09.2009 1:32 AM PDT